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THREE ON THE TREE
The following bands and performers are not yet taped but are confirmed for the April 4th taping at THE VENUE (a HUGE thanks to Donny Rich and TJ Green!!!!!! )
We are also planning to air a tribute to the late FLASH TERRY with the kind permission and cooperation from the Flash Terry estate.
I will be posting band info and hopefully some short preview clips as I get a chance at www.TulsaVideos.com. The official website will eventually be listed under www.TulsaMusicExposed.com.
There will always be a need for participating bands and sponsors. If you are a musician and would like exposure, or you have any suggestions, questions, ideas or criticisms, contact Mike@TulsaVideos.com. I'd appreciate the loaning of any film or video clips of anything Tulsa-related and would be sure to credit anybody interested in sharing.
Thanks to Jordan and Mick at TULSA MUSIC PULSE and Mike at TULSA TV
We were subcontractors to Fox News yesterday during the 9/11 Hearings - Shepherd
Smith was one of the Fox talent. He DOES epitomize a TV "pro" - need him
to do a :10 v.o. - he does it in :09. Need him to talk to techs, listen to
the NYC control room AND watch the 9/11 hearings and note facts to the producer
- he can do it. Give him a Diet Coke and a cigarette an hour and he goes!
Fox used 2 Vyvx (hey Tulsa) lines to feed 2 cameras to NYC and 1 back to
us with the program/prompter. The only time Smith used the prompter was for
reporter names on other story "throws". But we were not impressed with Neil
Cavuto - who took over at 4pm - EVERYTHING from "Hello, I'm Neil Cavuto"
to all of his guest questions and tosses to breaks were on prompter!
Seeing as there are so many media types here maybe someone can help me out
with pinpointing when a news story that occurred in Tulsa happened. Years
ago there was a shooting of a drug suspect by an undercover detective in
front of Cardos Cadillac - two doors down from Arnie's Bar on 15th street.
This would have most likely happened between 1982-85 and was in the winter
months as there was a snowfall that night. I'm interested in knowing the
date, name of the deceased and name of the shooter. If there are any on-line
accounts of this event I'd appreciate links to the story. Thanks in advance
for any and all responses.
Sorry, the article is available online only if you subscribe to the paper. However, since I am a subscriber, I am entitled to have the article emailed to friends through the World's web site until the article expires on 3/31. So if you would like to read it, send me your email address by clicking my email link above, and I'll see that you get it.
Kristina Dudley also wrote the article featured by permission on the
Ma-Hu Mansion page.
I could always scan a T-shirt. But I think this will suffice eh?
That is a good image of the TU23A logo...thanks! If the blue/gold version is available, I would like to get that, too. I plan to do a separate 23 page.
My fondest memory aside from his music was that he was my bus driver when I had moved out of my parents house about 10 years ago.
I was working for the Tulsa County Sheriff's Office at the time and he and I had lots to talk about on our ride in to the courthouse from south Tulsa.
After TPD Officer Gus Spanos was murdered in the spring of 1993 he passed the hat on his bus to help with the "Camcorders for Cops" drive.
I'm gonna miss you, big man.
I added a link to Flash Terry's web site just below where you can write a message to his family. Rest in peace, Flash.
I just saw on the KTUL website that "Flash" Terry has passed away at the age of 69. He'll be greatly missed. I used to love to see his show at "Juneteenth".
Farewell, Flash. We'll miss you.
There are still at least 3 here in OKC. Norman had one on Alameda that not sure if is still open. One downtown, one 10th St. (east of St. Anthony's hospital), and one NW 122nd/Penn. He and his wife were still alive this past fall. Great friends with his church's pastor and family.
The 'Big Ed', 12-inch bun, 2 lbs beef. The bun was about a pound, the veggies about a pound, and the fries about a pound. So you're looking at 5 lbs food in 45 minutes and you CAN'T get up. That makes the 'Big Ed Challenge'!!!
The man in the picture is him, Ed Thomas. There grew to over 30? franchised stores at one time.
His wife was in a serious accident in mid-80s and she ended up in a wheelchair,
but when I first worked for them in '89, (worked for franchise starting in
'85), they would be next door in the office @ 122nd/Penn nearly every day.
A nicer family has never been on this planet!
I've never been disappointed in an IMAX movie...I plan to see this one for sure.
I too went to school with Roy Byram and my condolences go out to his family and friends.
We also recently lost two of the finest ladies and educators Tulsa has ever
been blessed with. Mrs. Elsie Rains, my eighth grade counselor at Monroe
Jr. High, and Mrs. Particia Self, my third grade teacher at Lindsey Elementary.
Roz, if you're out there and read this, I cried when I read Elsie's obit
in the World. Very seldom does one remember teachers from the past, but those
two ladies made lasting impressions on this rebel student.
I used to drop into clubs after the ten o'clock news and sit in with various guitarists and piano men, and on occasion, Debbie would come in and do the same. I did not get to know her very well, but we would bump into each other now and again and she would always make it a point to speak. She was a very nice lady and a fine musician.
She and I were very fond of sitting in with Bob McRoberts. I first started singing with him when he was at the "Celebrity Club" and then followed him to "The Harvard Club." There's a "Staples" there now.
I'm pretty sure Bob is still active in the Oklahoma City music scene.
Mark Bryan (In House Recordings) plays piano now at Celebrity Club. He's the fellow who engineered my CD.
I was not as versatile as Debbie, and Bob could play anything she wanted to do.
She will truly be missed.
1968...it was a tumultuous year, a sad year. The front pages cried out one catastrophe after another. Assassinations, student unrest, the police riots of the Democratic Convention in Chicago. In February, North Vietnam launched its Tet offensive, catching the US Army in Saigon with their pants down. The Marines at Khe Sanh were surrounded in their hilltop base. Cut off, they were fighting for their lives. General Westmoreland asked for and got 11,000 more troops, bringing the total number of GIs in Vietnam to over a half million.
Yet, here in Tulsa these world-shaping events seemed a million miles away. "The Valley of the Dolls" and "The Sound of Music" were playing to a full house at the Boman Twin. "The Graduate" with Dustin Hoffman opened at the Delman and forced forever into Americana the icon "Mrs. Robinson".
Tulsa's Friday night TV lineup consisted of Channel 6's "Wild, Wild West" and "Gomer Pyle", Channel 8 had the Merv Griffin Show, and Channel 2 had "Star Trek".
I was managing an after-hours club in Creek county, named at that time, "The Scotch Mist". The Mist didn't open until 11 pm during the week. But we did a standing room business every night.
Our customer base was other Tulsa club employees... bartenders, waitresses, musicians and the like. At the time, go-go dancer bars (3.2 joints) were a hot item in Tulsa and they closed at midnight with most of the dancers coming out to the Mist. At two a.m. the nightclubs inside the city limits would close and the Mist would be full by three in the morning.
I booked some of Tulsa's best bands to play at the Mist every night. In those days, live bands were booked on a weekly basis; a good group might playing the same club, six nights a week for a month or more. Some clubs, like the Penthouse, had the same band forever.
For years the hottest nightspot in Tulsa had been Jerry Osborn's Fondalite Club on the Corner of Dreams at 11th and Denver. I had even worked there for a year after returning from the war. But by early 1968, Jerry was struggling to keep the doors of the Fondalite open. Tulsa's population center was shafting to the south side of the city, bringing with it the entertainment district.
The city council's Urban Renewal program had began destroying many of the affordable apartments in the downtown area; forcing a large number of Tulsa's singles into a mass migration to the many new apartment complexes springing up all over the south side of the city. The owners of PJ's, a moderately successful downtown nightclub, could read the handwriting on the wall and relocated their club into a strip shopping center with plenty of parking on 41st, just off of Peoria.
PJ's began booking topnotch professional out-of-town bands, mostly from the Dallas and Houston area. But PJ's was small and could not handle all the business it could have. So the Fondalite carried on, in a fashion, with a lot of its old customer base.
One night, in mid-February, one of my customers came in and told my about this outstanding all-girl band out of California playing at the Fondalite. I had seen Jerry's ad in the newspaper about this group and blew it off as a possible novelty act. I had seen all-girl bands in town before, and none presented the professional front that Jerry's customers demanded. I really believed that the Fondalite must be on its last leg. But, over the next few nights, more and more of my customer were singing the praises of this group called the Kandy Kanes.
So, I decide to let Marvin Hopkins, my head bartender, open the Mist one weekday night while I stopped by the Fondalite to see this all-girl band for myself. I was shocked! They really had a polished act. Talented singing and playing and as good a professional up-front presentation as I had seen. All four of these gals were "drop-dead-gorgeous" to boot. With that marvelous, unmatched, late 60s look.
Jerry introduced me to the girls during their first break, including Debbie, who couldn't have been more than seventeen. Hell, I was only twenty-two myself. The girls told me that they had heard about the Scotch Mist and really wanted to come out. But their manager/chaperon would not hear of it because of The Mist's infamous after-hours reputation. (it was a bit of a fun place).
I had Jerry introduce me to their manager whom I gave my absolute assurances that he (or was it a she?) and the girls would be completely safe in my club. That I would provide the girls with a table on the dance floor near the stage and assign bouncers (we didn't call them security personnel back then) to keep people away.
That weekend, the girls and their chaperon came out to the Mist after finishing up a Saturday night gig at the Fondalite and had a great time. The next day, it was big news all over town that the Kandy Kanes had came out to the Scotch Mist. It was even mentioned on KAKC. I spent a lot of advertising dollars with KAKC in those days, one of the first nightclubs to do so.
With Debbie's death, her name is added to the ever-growing list of those gone ahead who were originally responsible for the maturing "Tulsa Sound". She will be greatly missed and should always be fondly remembered.
Thank you, George.
The motel used to be a Hilton Inn. The club was once "Chisholm's", and in the early 80s, "The Winners' Circle".
I'm asking because when I worked at Shields Music, I did a sound system install in '75 or so at the (I'm kinda guessing) Copa Club. I think it was a Sheraton at the time.
He also asked about all the Leon/Eric Clapton things, and I pointed him to this:
And I looked at the published date.
That was my last day at Channel 8. Howard Sanders and I went down to Muskogee to shoot a spot for Nick's, a very cool NY style deli that actually knew what Olive Oil was. Great Philly Cheese Steaks. high quality stuff.
So, I/we spent more than the normal time doing the shoot. Howard and I got back to the station I dunno, probably around 6:30.
In the employee entrance. On the table. There was this 18 x 24 cake. With a red headed sorta resemblance of me on it.
I don't remember what it said exactly. Something like "best wishes to the red headed rock star" or similar.
But it was a hoot for me. I dragged it into the trunk of the Baby Blue '75 Buick LeSabre convertible (final production run) and hauled it to the fridge where it kinda eventually died.
But for those that made the effort to do that cake, I humbly thank you.
It made my year. And paved me into a lot of things I would never have thought of.
Best at ya.
Peter D Abrams
Joy, I forwarded your note to Charity.
I was fortunate through an association with the University of Chicago to have known Boorstin when he was on the faculty there, as well as Tulsa's other great historian, John Hope Franklin, now retired and living in North Carolina. It always struck me as amazing that Tulsa should produce two world-class historians, who were contemporaries, but fail to do much to honor them.
Since we are building a new Grand Central Library at 11th and Denver, it might be a good opportunity to do that.
On behalf of all the contributors to that page, you're welcome, Helen.
Debbie was part of the "Tulsa Sound" of the 1970s. Perhaps some of the readers will remember her and working with her.
Thanks for that, Sonny. Here is more about Debbie's life and music at her archived web site. Several of her jazz songs are free downloads in MP3 format at Amazon.com.
I'm very sorry for your loss, Charity. Thank you for letting us know.
I've been amused recently concerning the plight of Howard Stern and Bubba the Love Sponge vs. the righteous folks at Clear Channel Broadcasting.
One needs to know the Clear Channel hierarchy to appreciate their newly-found stand for "clean air". Some oldtimers might remember the beginning of this bunch which started in San Antonio, then acquired KXXO in Tulsa and on to 600 plus radio stations on the planet.
But I'll give it to Lowry Mays, he knows how to build an empire...and with the apparent blessing of the FCC, by allowing unlimited ownership of broadcast properties. Which seems to have resulted in loss of, or lack of control and responsibility of the publicly-owned air waves.
Now the sleeping giant has awakened. The FCC suddenly realizes why they exist. Shades of days gone by...George Carlin must be ROFL!
Just my opinion of course.
As Jim Carrey was helping a drywall-covered Edwards to the podium to give his acceptance speech, Edwards kept quipping, "Don't touch my Oscar!"
If you missed the presentation, the 82 year old director/writer sped across
the stage in a motorized wheelchair and, without slowing, grabbed the award
out of Jim Carrey's hand. He continued his rapid flight until he careened
into the set on the opposite side of the stage, breaking through it, and
finally stopping. It was the funniest thing I've ever seen on the Oscars
- classic Blake Edwards.
In 1965, you only listened to KAKC or KELi. Both were cool. Now at 54, I
still listen to the oldies. Also, a drawing that Don Woods drew of Gusty
hangs on my kitchen wall. Sure wish I had a pic of the old Skyline View Amusement
park where I would go swimming in the summer. Memories...
While I am a nerd, I'm sure others aren't!
I recently did a turn as a "virtual guest lecturer" for a "Cyberliteracy" class at OCU. When asked by a student to characterize the readers of this site, I said that, as a group, they are highly literate (in the regular sense of the word), but are not necessarily computer geeks (though that's not a bad thing to be).
The Flaming Lips sprang into being in Norman, Oklahoma in 1983 as a surf/punk/psychedelic band and mutated their way to national recognition.
Bob Griffin, who was at KVOO-TV Channel 2 when it signed on in 1954, signed in here, as did Chris Ashby, who was a guest on Channel 2's Uncle Hiram show a year or so later.
The whereabouts of KVOO-AM's archives were sought.
"So you want to produce a TV show?" Beef Baloney will address that question at TU tonight (Thursday)...details of this, all the above, and more in the just-archived Guestbook 158.