April 06 2009 at 21:31:09 Name: Gary Chew Topic: B-Girl at the Pacer-Fina
Comments: I can't identify the lady in the picture with the
firecracker, but I most certainly can identify with the price of gas as shown
in the vintage Ford photo of the service station. Was it ever so?
Piqued, or is that Peaked(?), the Del Dude, here.
April 06 2009 at 20:41:41 Name: Webmaster Topic: Return of the B Girl
In GroupBlog 273, I displayed two photos from
the Beryl Ford Collection. In each, an attractive model is holding a letter
B, presumably as a promotion for someone or something.
I just stumbled onto another one. There are clues this time.
The header is "Baron Walters. Vol 1, No 6 Drummer cover", dated 7/1960. Who
is that? The only related item I could find on the internet was another Beryl
Ford photo labelled "Baron-Walters Pacer Fina service station at 1630 East
Apache". But that modest establishment hardly seems worthy of such a
pulchritudinous campaign. (Later note: Erick speculated in
GB 288 that Baron Walters was an ad agency
and that maybe these are promotions of the ad agency itself.)
The checkerboard linoleum set seen below also appears in
photo tagged "White Advertising Agency". I found this salty reference
to the agency (and Oral Roberts) on
One of the previous B girls has the caption, "Gaslite Club Brookside Gaslite
Girl $ Bacon Waffles". Is "Bacon Waffles" poor penmanship for "Baron Walters"?
Courtesy of Beryl Ford Collection/Rotary Club of Tulsa, Tulsa City-County
Library, Tulsa Historical Society
April 06 2009 at 19:33:49 Name: Michael Topic: Borden's, House of Hobbies, Royal Fork,
W.T. Grant Email: Richardson's U-All-No
Mints Comments: Uhh...I had completely forgotten about Borden's
"treasure chest," from which kids who had cleaned their plates could select
a toy on the way out (enforced by parents, of course). It was often the highlight
of the evening for my siblings and me. How could I have forgotten about this?
I dunno, but I have this vague memory of having a "Chinese finger trap" stuck
to one of my fingers so tightly that it had to be cut off (the trap, not
House of Hobbies, on the south side of Admiral just west of Sheridan Village,
was indeed a wonderful place--kind of a Mecca for pre-teen boys, in fact.
It was a bit too far to walk, so I didn't get there as often as I might have.
Their prices were a bit higher, too. I think the popular Hawk model airplane
kits there were 50 cents, as they were at Ben Franklin and most other stores,
but most other kits at H of H were a dollar, when Oertle's (and some others)
sold them for 88 cents.
However, H of H had something no one else had: ROCO Minitanks. These were
fully-assembled models of dozens of various military vehicles, mostly World
War II tanks but a lot of other things too. They ranged in price from a quarter
for a small jeep to a couple of dollars for an Honest John missile launcher.
What fascinated us was the astonishing variety of vehicles available, many
of which we had never seen before. The favourite was probably the German
SdKfz 234 eight-wheeled armoured car of WW2, which came in at least three
varieties of armament. This was such a strange-looking vehicle that most
guys on our block had at least one. I think I had four or five. There were,
however, a few nay-sayers who insisted that such a bizarre-looking vehicle
could not have really existed; after all, you never see them in movies, right?
All ROCO Minitanks, made in Austria, were in dark green plastic and lent
themselves very well to custom painting. We even devised our own wargame
rules for them, using a living room as a battlefield. Each vehicle was allowed
a certain number of inches it could move. To fire, you took an empty .22
rifle cartridge (everybody seemed to collect these) and tossed it underhand
from the vicinity of the firing vehicle toward the target. A hit resulted
in a satisfying click sound and an enemy vehicle turned on its side with
a cotton ball for smoke. I think ROCO Minitanks are still being produced,
and I still have a few somewhere in a box.
Royal Fork: One night my brother and I had a shrimp-eating contest. The shrimp
at Royal Fork were a bit bigger than a quarter and heavily breaded, but who
cared when you could eat all you wanted? My memory is not crystal-clear,
but I think I won with 53.
A few years later, at a W.T. Grant counter in Tucson, Arizona, several dorm
buddies and I did roughly the same thing, with shrimp that if anything were
even smaller. After we'd eaten a couple dozen apiece, the waitress insisted
upon bringing the shrimp out to us one at a time, each on a little tea-saucer
sized plate (possibly to discourage us so we'd leave; it didn't work). By
the time we were full, there were several stacks of empty plates at least
18 inches high. I have no recollection of who won or how many shrimp in total
we ate, but Grant's went out of business shortly thereafter. We always bragged
that it was due to us. I remember the Grant's in downtown Tulsa; quite large
with a remarkable selection of stuff.
April 06 2009 at 14:10:04 Name: roy lee Topic: Parkey's Restaurant Email: royleeshouseatgeemail Comments: That building has been a bar and a hangout of mine
for quite awhile. It has bounced from bad country to karaoke to serious pool
player crowds in just the past few years. It's a hip-hop pool player hangout
right now. I live 2 blocks away so it's cheap and close and I'm in there
a couple of nights a week. They do have a kitchen and some bar food.
Chalk up and check it out sometime. It's loud but comfortable.
April 06 2009 at 12:37:38 Name: Mike Bruchas Topic: Dan
Hausle Comments: Former OKC KOCO reporter
Dan Hausle is now in Boston.
Gee, how many former KTUL folks worked there, too? He was cutting his teeth
at KOCO when I was there and had a mustache. His name is HOW-slee but ABC
used to call him Dan HASSLE when a national report aired. It always broke
us up in the control room.
April 06 2009 at 12:17:32 Name: Jerry "KNOTTY" Willman Topic: KTUL 1948-1951 Email: TheKNOTTYMAN at gmail dot
com Comments: Here are a few picture postcards I came across at
a local weekend Traders Days.
Breene picture postcard with a 1 cent stamp 1951.
April 05 2009 at 10:31:58 Name: M Terry Topic: Pro wrestlers Email: m terry 20 at cox dot net Comments: I believe the wrestler with the beard is Karol Krauser.
He attended the church my parents attended. He died of a heart attack in
the mid 60s.
I didn't know her, but his daughter was in my East Central high school
Later note: I believe the fellow with the beard is actually
April 04 2009 at 17:54:01 Name: Scott Linder Topic: The Coliseum
fire Comments: I clearly recall the Coliseum fire as a childhood
My dad, mom and I had just left Bishop's
Restaurant when we heard the sirens and saw the smoke. My dad steered
his '49 Chevy down near Elgin. I somehow recall that it was raining.
My dad lifted me up on his shoulders and the three of us watched the building
burn, along with many others... I remember a large crowd of onlookers.
In later years, my folks often spoke of the many events they attended at
Please excuse me if my memory is a bit faulty, but I clearly remember the
smoke and flames...
Courtesy Beryl Ford Collection/Rotary Club of Tulsa, Tulsa City-County
Library & Tulsa Historical Society
April 04 2009 at 16:59:11 Name: Erick Topic: Discover
Oklahoma Comments: Unless something has changed, I think the regular
hosts of "Discover Oklahoma" are Jenifer Reynolds (former main anchor at
KWTV) and Ron Stahl (former anchor/reporter at KOCO). I first remember seeing
that show in the early 1990's with Robbie Robertson (former KTVY/KFOR
sportscaster) as host. Later, former "Dannysday" co-host Kerry Robertson
(who replaced Entertainment Tonight's Mary Hart in that position) was co-host
with a gentleman whose name I can't recall.
It's a very good show that I think flies under a lot of people's radars.
April 04 2009 at 16:21:29 Name:
Jim Ruddle Topic:
Rasslers Comments: I can't put names to any of the grapplers," but
the old dude on the left is
Sam Avey(Wikipedia), wrestling promoter, owner of the Coliseum, and of radio
station KAKC, (Avey, Kellogg, and Condon, I believe.) I never knew Kellogg,
but Glen Condon was a terrier-voiced newsman of the day.
I don't know why George Wagner had the white beanie on his dome unless he
felt it would disguise him.
When I knew McGuirk, he was considerably slimmer than the person shown here.
The guy on the back row on the left looks familiar and I'm tempted to say
"Lou Thesz" but he was better looking, at least in memory.
April 04 2009 at 14:19:11 Name: Webmaster Topic: Rasslin' at the
Speaking of the Coliseum, here is a photo taken there. I believe I see Leroy
McGuirk, Cowboy Bill Watts' predecessor as a promoter, and Gorgeous George,
the original bleached hair, love-to-hate bad guy. Who else do you recognize?
Also, an interior shot before a Coliseum match.
The young guy behind Leroy's pooch is
Poffo, Leapin' Lanny's and Randy ("Macho Man") Savage's dad.
He started his career in Tulsa. Behind him is
Kalmikoff, née Edward Bruce. Scroll up for more possible
Courtesy of Beryl Ford Collection/Rotary Club of Tulsa, Tulsa City-County
Library and the Tulsa Historical Society
April 04 2009 at 13:27:08 Name: Webmaster Topic: Tulsa World links from
April 04 2009 at 11:41:05 Name: Mike Bruchas Topic: "Discover Oklahoma" TV
show Comments: Did not realize that Ron Stahl and Dino Lalli host
a state tourism weekly show on KWTV and KOTV. Saw where a show on Tulsan
Steve Ripley was in the mix.
April 04 2009 at 09:59:02 Name: Joe Riddle (via email to
webmaster) Topic: KAKC-FM, 1974-5
aircheck Comments: On 1270 KRVT last week: A guy from Texas was listening
and we started talking on the air about KAKC. He had some airchecks he had
recorded when he was a kid. I asked him to send them to me. Here is one of
The DJ is "Captain Fantastic" who I remember was on KAKC until 1976, but
I also remember him at another station (it might have been at KTFX aka "SuperFox
103" around 78-79) as Derek St. Johns or James.
Anyway enjoy the aircheck, I did my best to clean it up, but there's still
a lot of distortion. I just wish I hadn't stopped the tape during the Robo
Car Wash commercial!!
April 03 2009 at 19:18:36 Name: Michael M Trudeau (via email to
webmaster) Topic: Bill White Chevrolet Email: michaelmet at hotmail dot
com Comments: I am a member of the Vintage Chevrolet Club of America
(VCCA #30946). I have been writing a series of articles on Chevrolet dealer
emblems and license plate frames. I find one, then try to find out some history
on the dealership. One of my goals is to try and get older members who either
worked or knew about a dealer to tell me about it so it can be shared. Sometimes
I can find some good history, sometimes it's very skimpy.
I found at a salvage yard out here in Southern CA a Bill White Co. Tulsa
dealer emblem. Lucky for me Bill White was a Chevrolet dealer! I found the
dealer on your website so that is why I am writing you. And my emblem is
exactly like the one you have pictured (on the Tulsa
Car Dealers page).
Can you tell me some history on Bill White Chevrolet? Any photos or do you
know who I can contact? I often use local libraries to the dealer and chamber
of commerce. But your site was the first one I found and it seems encouraging.
Anything you can share will be appreciated. Hopefully you can get me going
in the right direction. And hopefully some VCCA member will write about Bill
White Chevrolet once the article is published.
Michael M Trudeau
272 South Glenview Place
Orange CA 92868-3420
"I enjoyed seeing the Neon signs, especially
one that reads "Service". I would know that building anywhere. My dad
worked there from the time he was 15 sweeping floors until his death in 1984.
It started out as Fuller-White and then became Bill White Chevrolet. He went
from sweeping floors after school to being one of their top 'Tune-up Mechanics'.
I have pictures of the inside of all the mechanics and office people. They
took everyone's picture and put in in a little book that they gave away as
Here's one that happens to catch a bit of
Fuller-White. The Coliseum on Elgin between 5th and 6th Streets burned down
on September 20, 1952.
Courtesy of Beryl Ford Collection/Rotary Club of Tulsa, Tulsa City-County
Library and the Tulsa Historical Society.
Click to see the same area today, courtesy of Erick Church.
April 03 2009 at 12:50:36 Name: The Surreptitious Surfer Topic: Percussion
Discussion Comments: YOUNGER MEMBERS OF THE CREW = MIKE MILLER.
April 02 2009 at 18:56:12 Name:
Mike Miller Topic: On the Lookout
(Mountain) Comments: Back in the late 50s when I was an intern at Channel
8, Honey Hudgen (singular) was a frequent on-air talent and a favorite among
young floor crew members who admired her large bongos (plural.) Actually,
I think they were conga drums. But what did we know about percussion!
April 01 2009 at 22:22:44 Name: Webmaster Topic: Honey
The proper spelling is "Hudgen" (singular). Joshua Peck at the Tulsa Historical
Society verified this from materials in their archive. I've changed every
occurrance on TTM.
April 01 2009 at 22:18:31 Name: Dave Topic:
"Contact" Comments: Yes, I also remember "Contact" on KAKC. It was a
call-in show aimed specifcally at teens. I don't recall that the content
was actually religious as such. The only way that any religious connection
came out was one night when a caller started asking the two hosts questions
about other programming on KAKC. The hosts said they couldn't answer that
because they weren't KAKC employees but were actually youth ministers. Before
that, no one had said really who or what they were -- to the listeners they
were just a couple of guys serving as hosts. Their ordained status came as
something of a surprise.
The conversations on the air were all secular rather than spiritual. The
hosts definitely did not preach but heard out the callers and offered advice
when asked. The hosts did a pretty good job of letting the kids have their
say on the air unimpeded and without coming back at them with put-downs or
April 01 2009 at 16:55:32 Name: Mike Bruchas Topic: April
Fools Comments: I can remember Faye at 6 transferring back calls
about "Mr. Wolf" or "Mr. Bear" calling the newsroom from the Mohawk Zoo on
April 1st waaaaay back when.
I guess today we might call that gettin' punked.
March 31 2009 at 17:32:25 Name: Steve Dallas Topic: Extinct
eateries Email: firstname.lastname@example.org Comments: Speaking of long-gone restaurants, there was one
on 11th Street near TU called "The Library" that my brother and I really
enjoyed having lunch at when we were at TU (almost 30 years ago). It served
Rex Chicken as part of a "comfort food" menu and did a great job with it.
It had a dark, comfortable eating area lined with shelves full of books (which
you were welcome to take down and read), plus an attached game room with
pool tables, video games and a pinball machine. It closed before I was done
at TU, so I had to "settle" for the nearby Coney I-Lander, which wasn't exactly
I'd happily "settle" for those coneys out here on the Left Coast. Ditto Ci-Ci's,
Steak 'N' Shake and a myriad of other inexpensive eateries that have never
found their way out here. (Even the nearest Sonic is 100 miles away!)
Another long-dead restaurant my family loved was Ma Bell's, especially the
location across from LaFortune Park. It was a diner-type establishment where
you would order by telephone from your booth and pick up your order at the
counter when the red light on the phone lit up. (My brother used to crack,
"It's the bat phone.") The meal I usually had was a combo with a barbecue
burger, curly fries and a salad. The outfit that owned Ma Bell's also ran
a more upscale location at 51st and Harvard called J.P. Sousa's, but I never
Dang, now I'm hungry!
March 31 2009 at 17:27:31 Name: Erick Topic: Television
Pioneers Comments: I think the perceived overabundance of OKC shows
vs. Tulsa shows on the Television Pioneers program was more of an availability
issue. Channels 4, 5 and 9 in OKC donated a large amount of film over the
years to the Oklahoma Historical Society. KOTV donated a lot to the Tulsa
Historical Society, but I don't think KJRH or KTUL did much preservation
over the years. Also, you have to consider that two-thirds of Oklahoma is
in the Oklahoma City viewing area, so I'm sure part of it is OETA trying
to appeal to the masses.
That said, I thought part 1 of the series had a considerable Tulsa lean,
but that's just my opinion. Part 1 also mentioned John Chick in reference
to the Mr. Zing and Tuffy days. I did find it odd that Uncle Zeb wasn't mentioned
at all. There were some OKC kids shows that weren't mentioned either, but
Zeb was a considerable omission.
Overall, I enjoyed both parts. They seemed heavily focused on kids shows.
I would have liked to see more about local news, etc.
I agree with your analysis.
March 31 2009 at 16:47:03 Name: JW Topic: Griffin
consolidation Comments: I agree what Mr. Richardson said. Griffin doesn't
seem to get that Tulsa has always considered itself as very different from
Although it was well-done, I watched that new "Television Pioneers" show
with a smirk. It, like a lot of OETA "Oklahoma" programming seemed heavily
OKC-slanted. Lots of coverage of OKC kids shows and not even a mention (unless
I blinked and missed it) of the great John Chick or the genius of Carl
Bartholomew? I understand it was a 28-minute show but it seemed heavily
I still applaud OETA; they consistently produce the best local programming
in the state.
March 31 2009 at 15:25:02 Name: Stacy Richardson Topic: KAKC "Contact"; Jamil's;
KOTV Comments: Yeah, I remember "Contact" on Sunday night. It seemed
to me the thrust of it was marginally religious.
Jamil's has moved from 51st between Lewis and Harvard, to 51st east of Harvard,
in the old Jimmy's Egg location.
The news about KOTV's consolidation is not good for Tulsa. Management decisions
will be made in Oklahoma City, and we will surely see more on-air news reports
originating in Oklahoma City which refer to Tulsa as if we're on the dark
side of the moon.
Griffin has failed to learn what other consolidators of broadcast services
have learned (or have not yet learned): that when you reduce service to the
station's community of viewers, you reduce revenue.
But they will learn this lesson, sooner or later. I hope they learn it before
newscasts begin originating in Oklahoma City.
Don't scoff at the concept of the newscasts originating elsewhere: that's
the kind of idea Griffin seems to love these days, and it's being done in
March 31 2009 at 14:55:33 Name: Debbie Topic: Late 60s Tulsa radio
show Comments: In the late 60s, there was a call-in radio show
on either KAKC or KELi called "Contact". It came on at 10:00 on Sunday night.
I used to hide under the covers with my transistor radio listening to it,
hoping my mother wouldn't find out. Does anyone else remember this?
March 31 2009 at 13:33:38 Name: Brandy Topic: Radio station t-shirts Email: bykerdruid at yahoo dot
com Comments: I am so excited to find there are still "old days"
local radio station t-shirts for sale. I never had one when I dj'd at KAKC
way back when. Thanks for the link, I'll go order one right now! LOL
March 31 2009 at 13:06:34 Name: Mike Bruchas Topic: Maurice
Jarre Comments: Composer of the soundtrack of "Lawrence of Arabia"
passed in L.A. yesterday at age 84. A great film made greater by its
March 31 2009 at 09:47:37 Name: Dave Topic: News from News on
item in today's World at about a consolidation of operations between
KOTV and KWTV. Among other things, KOTV no longer has an in-house vice president
and it appears the two newsrooms are merging. Anyone have any perspective
to offer on this?
March 30 2009 at 15:38:44 Name:
Jack Benny Topic: Being
Preciatin' Shout-Out to Mike Bruchas (aka funsky won)
Thanks, M.B. Here's to a guy who was 39 till he was 80, when he died in Beverly
Hills. I should live so long. That 39-year-old violin player did pretty well,
considering his place of residence.
Del de Coffey (aka gchw.sac.noir.cal)
March 30 2009 at 15:25:23 Name: pabby Topic: 60s Big Chief Soda
Pop? Comments: Aah, the internet is a wonderfully evolving thing,
and has helped me to answer my own question. Although I promise I had performed
many repeated searches over several years, I must admit I failed to give
it one more try before I submitted my question here regarding Big Chief Soda
Pop. I am, however, glad to know my memory hasn't failed me, as there are
now several references to Big Chief flavored pop on the net.
I love coming to this site -- especially the photos of 60s and 70s era Tulsa
and surrounding towns!
March 30 2009 at 15:21:03 Name: Mike Bruchas Topic: Happy
Birthday Comments: To Delmeaux Gillette aka Gary Chew today...
I think he will be 39 again....that's good!
March 30 2009 at 14:49:14 Name: David Bagsby Topic: Good Taste
Theatre Comments: In honor of TTM lurker Jon G.'s birthday, a new
film from Good Taste Theatre. Some blessed relief from these dark economic
March 30 2009 at 10:26:10 Name: pabby Topic: 60s Big Chief Soda
Pop? Comments: This has been driving me crazy for a number of years...
Does anyone happen to remember a flavored pop in the 60s named Big Chief
pop? As I remember, the glass bottles had a white logo of an Indian Chief's
head in full headdress on the neck of the bottle. The flavors included grape,
orange, strawberry, lemon-lime (and maybe others).
I've searched the internet and found nothing, and it's very possible I am
remembering the brand name incorrectly. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
March 29 2009 at 19:16:49 Name: over in Ranch Acres Topic: Irving R.
Levine Comments: I met Mr. Levine a few years ago while he was lecturing
on foreign affairs on a Mediterranean cruise. A wonderful, gentle and very
funny man. And yes, he sported the bow tie at the podium...
March 29 2009 at 17:19:55 Name:
Jim Ruddle Topic: Irving R.
Levine Comments: Irving R. Levine was considered a valuable pet at
NBC. Everybody knew him for the bow tie, of course, but he was a man not
wihtout humor. In his obits you might find his little tiff with the network
suits who wanted him to drop the "R" and be simply Irving Levine. He suggested
that NBC should act in the same fashion and drop the "B."
This recalls another similar name contest with the idiots between Robert
Goralski and the brass. Goralski was a big, broad-shouldered NBC, no-nonsense
correspondent working at a time when Robert McNeil was also employed, except
that McNeil's real moniker was "Robin" and he worked under that name at NBC
for several years.
Somebody at Rockefeller Center decided that Goralski was too ethnic and that
Bob should get with the bleached-out name program the network enjoyed. He
was asked, in short, to change his name.
He came back and said he'd agree. He'd change his name. "Great," said the
suits. "What do you want to change it to?"
"Robin Goralski," he replied.
Back to Levine.
At the Republican National Convention in 1964, a fire broke out in a remote
section of the San Francisco Cow Palace. All the correspondents were tied
up with assignments, or out drinking, and Irving was the only body available--bow
tie and all. He was sent to the"conflagration", as we used to say, and David
Brinkley erupted in laughter.
"When" he asked rhetorically, "was the last time Irving R. Levine covered
They cut to Irving standing in his banker's attire and he replied somewhat
"I'm doing the best I can."
He was a great broadcaster. Like Paul Harvey, he was unique and so much better
founded than the cookie-cutter correspondents today.
March 29 2009 at 13:06:54 Name: Dana LeMoine Topic: Flooding in Fargo Email: email@example.com Comments: Keep on fighting the good fight up there in Fargo,
March 29 2009 at 11:03:17 Name: Webmaster Topic: "Television Pioneers" Part 2 on OETA
From OETA's "Stateline": The 1960s and 1970s bring color and videotape to
Oklahoma Television. Watch it here or on TV today at 11:30 am.
At 7:53 in, you can see TTM reader Richard Forney
in action on "Dance Party".
March 28 2009 at 20:50:05 Name: Billy G. Spradlin Topic: KAKC, KELi T-Shirts Email: firstname.lastname@example.org Comments: Hi, haven't checked out the website in a long time.
Glad it's still going strong.
I just wanted to mention that
RadioLogoLand.com is now selling
KAKC and KELi (and KOMA) logo t-shirts, tote bags.. even mouse pads with
those legendary logos on them.
Also a quick thanks to the staff at KRVT for
finally broadcasting online.
March 28 2009 at 20:05:29 Name: Charles Topic: Hello from
Fargo Comments: Sitting here in Fargo, it's nice to read and think
back to all the bygone restaurants in Tulsa. Lots of sandwiches, pizza and
hot dogs here lately. But we're well fed! There has been a tremendous outpouring
of volunteerism here over the past week. It's been incredible.
March 28 2009 at 19:27:09 Name: JW Topic: Long gone Tulsa
restaurants Comments: I don't think anyone has mentioned Rex during the
current discussion. I remember Rex being discussed in previous blogs. I think
I've even seen the recipe for the chicken here in the past.
Rex was really good. That's one local chain I really miss. The chicken and
frybread still makes my mouth water. A little lighter than the "frybread"
must of us part native American Okies grew up with.
Someone mentioned the "Hungry Pelican" restaurants. If my memory serves me
well they also served frybread. I think they were mostly seafood.
I always thought Crystal's served really good pizza for being a family type
pizza place (Chuck E. Cheese, Showbiz, etc.).
March 28 2009 at 15:24:46 Name: Mike Bruchas Topic: The Royal
Fork Comments: It was a good buy, but quality varied. Cheaper than
Furrs and I think before Luby's hit Tulsa. Matt Bunyan had a period where
he went there 2-3 times a week.
It was a Utah-based chain and of course being Oklahoma, certain folks decried
against "a Mormon business" in the Bible Belt. The Mormon ownership part
was never proved.
Matt Bunyan needs to write a tome on "good eats" in Tulsa from the 70s to
today. He knew a lot of chefs and owners.
As mentioned previously here, the OK Dept. of Corrections had a vocational
training program in the 70s and 80s and turned out a LOT of folks who became
buffet joint chefs.
Has JAMIL'S relocated yet due to I-44 expansion?
March 28 2009 at 14:43:54 Name: Webmaster Topic: Snow today / Previous GroupBlog