Mike Bruchas - 04/25/99 11:44:16
Okay kids - besides the movie "Tulsa!" with Susan Hayward and Robert Preston which pops up on GoodLifeTV and AMC periodically - what other major movies were shot in Tulsa?
Francis Ford Coppola lensed 2 SE Hinton cult teen-ager stories here (by TU and in West Tulsa) - what were they?
Can you think of anything else??
Guthrie appears in "Rain Man", "Where the Red Fern Grows" was shot in Muskogee or SE OK. "Oklahoma Crude" with Jack Palance was NOT shot in OK.
This may grow to another spin-off area if we can all remember enough.....
Jim Back - 04/25/99 00:52:24
Jim Back - 04/25/99 00:02:54
Erick - 04/24/99 05:54:36
United Video occupies a very large office building near 71st & Lewis next to the Marriott. What shopping center?
KCMA...if I know my radio correctly, they were the predecessor to what it now KOAS 92.1. Smoooooooth Jazz.
Jack Bowen...ahhh...now there's a newsman!! Kinda funny, he doesn't sign
a contract unless his hair is taken care of. The station has to hire someone
to put his hair on every morning. They also must pay for all toupe` replacements
needed. I remember this is what led to his leaving KWTV in between stints
at KOCO. They wouldn't pay for his hair, and it led to all sorts of lawsuits.
He returned to KOCO, all amidst a big ad campaign. They used The Beatles'
"Get Back" as the music, and showed a man (supposedly Jack) with his back
facing the camera, and the phrase "Jack's Back!" in the biggest font you've
ever seen. His big re-debut at KOCO was New Year's Eve of 1990. He was doing
live reports from downtown OKC for Opening Night, and many a drunk person
was yelling "Woooo!!! Jack's back!!!". This ended up throughout the live
shots that evening.
Angie - 04/24/99 03:04:58
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Lewis Meyer's Bookshelf
Stupidest local commercial: Bust Stop
How did you find TTM?: Rex sent me...
Jim Back - 04/23/99 23:02:37
Mike Bruchas (once more!) - 04/23/99 21:59:29
"As Jim Back noted KRMG was for Kerr-McGee, owned by U.S. Senator Robert S. Kerr and his oil partner, Dean McGee.
KAKC was for Avey, Kellough and Condon. Sam Avey was a Tulsa entrepreneur, owned the old Coliseum on 4th Street and Cincinatti (or Detroit) that burned down in the 50s, think Kellough (sp?) was a local businessman and Glen Condon was news director at KRMG in the early years. I believe this is correct, it was all part of a unit on Oklahoma history we took in the sixth grade mandated by the state. For some reason, this has all stuck with me.
I had forgotten about KVOO, the Voice of Oklahoma
KOME stood for Oklahoma's Magic Empire, which Tulsa was called in the 50's.
KFMJ- it was owned by Tulsa auto dealer and his wife: Fred and Mary Jones.
And, of course, Keli's predecessor at 1430KC was KTUL radio.
You remember that KWTV in OKC stood for World's Tallest Video, aptly named with the then-tallest tower in the USA."
Mike Bruchas (again) - 04/23/99 18:14:50
KCMA was the commercial FM cultural station I was trying to think of earlier that came on the scene in Tulsa - it patterned itself after WFMT in Chicago. WFMT was actually bought by WGN and turned into a separate entity at one time when its financial future was uncertain.
Interestingly enough - a company in Tulsa on So. Sheridan (whose name I can't
remember) used to be the re-transmission service to cable systems around
the U.S. WFMT was on Tulsa Cable's radio service for years....
Mike Bruchas - 04/23/99 13:52:02
Location: Alexandria Media Center
TV news people - unless they worked in radio or the printed press - are always suspect of folks crossing media. Ken Ragsdale - an excellent print reporter - who worked at KTUL in the 70's got some of this I remember. I recall - Ken's claim to fame or infamy was to be fired after doing a brief commentary type remark in a story about a weekend drowning at the low water dam in Sand Springs.
All of the media had been called to drowning and search and rescue operations at the site several times that Summer. It was pretty grim. People were trying to cool off but drownings were happening weekly. I think the firemen/rescue workers who answered the calls agreed with Ken - a fence needed to go up and warning signs posted to keep people away from the dam. Evidently someone in power saw the the story - got mad at Ragsdale - called Jimmy Leake and he was fired.
I guess being an advocate journalist for the right reasons was something
Tulsa was not ready for. The last time I heard of Ken - he had a new career
as a stockbroker and was doing very well in OKC.
George Brumby - 04/22/99 21:36:54
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Spanky's Hour
Stupidest local commercial: Suzi Soundtrack
How did you find TTM?: fiend
George Brumby - 04/22/99 20:23:17
Location: Tulsa Okla
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Spanky show
Stupidest local commercial: Ask David Garrett
How did you find TTM?: friend
Gary Szabo - 04/22/99 19:41:13
Location: Seattle, WA (until we can return to Tulsa!)
Stupidest local commercial: Fondly: Reeves Appliances "don't forget poor ol' Pappy..."
How did you find TTM?: via Tulsa web scion Rex Brown
I also remember KTUL's "Muskogee Bureau" in the 80s, run by John Hasler and
Tom Doerner. They'd drive the monster truck up to Honor Heights Hill in Muskogee
in order to file video to Tulsa/Lookout Mtn. via a direct line-of-sight
Jim Back - 04/22/99 17:12:25
Location: Edmond, OK
I'm sure he considered it a dream come true when he landed at Headline News, but he was passed over many times for better jobs in the CNN organization, and basically never got past nights and weekends on Headline News. Even an eternal optimist (and genuinely nice guy) like Bob catches on eventually to how your bosses regard you, and when I sought him out at one of his book signings in Tulsa a few months ago he said he left because he "felt he could do better" elsewhere.
He showed up on "60 Minutes" one time a few years ago as being part of a group of people who had bought what turned out to be fake classified documents relating to the Kennedy assassination.
He told an interesting story in his book about how he got the job at Ch. 6. According to the book, he auditioned in front of then-news director Jack Bowen (now an anchor at the Fox affiliate in OKC). When Bob finished his audition he went into the control room to find Jack fast asleep.
Bob called back a week later only to find that Jack had been let go. So Bob
called General Manager Duane Harm to find out what the deal was. In his book
Bob says Harm asked if Jack had hired him. Bob was assertive enough to say
yes, and that's how he got the job.
Mike Bruchas - 04/22/99 13:14:35
Bob always sounds like he is announcing (often self-deprecatingly I thought!)
when he spoke. I worked with him later at KOTV as a relief news photographer
when he was a street reporter. I also know he beat a form of cancer a few
Mark - 04/22/99 02:02:49
How did you find TTM?: thru KOTV's 6 in touch forum
Mike Bruchas - 04/21/99 19:52:04
Location: Alexandria Media Center
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Old Warner Bros. cartoons on KTUL
Stupidest local commercial: Definitely Dan P. Holmes - what was he talkin' about!
Tony took a lowly night operations job here then learned to master an AVID
(Mac based video editing system). He now lives in the San Francisco area
and a spot he edited there, aired during the SuperBowl this year. So I guess
there is life after workin' at KTOW!
Erick - 04/21/99 14:41:21
Rex - 04/21/99 14:37:25
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Mr. Zing and Tuffy
Stupidest local commercial: Dan P. Holmes Insurance
How did you find TTM?: via Oktoberfest site
I'm surprised you have no mention of Dance Party!?!
I always enjoyed seeing Dan P. Holmes get angry about Highway 33, his
pet project. It finally did get fixed and now bears his name.
Erick - 04/21/99 05:30:43
Classical music in Tulsa is currently served by KCFM 94.1, which used to be classic rocker KTHK, The Hawk.
KTOW, 102.3 has had many formats. One of a few that come to mind are alternative
rock in the early 90's (at the time there was no "alternative" it was called
"Indie"). Later, it became urban contemporary, and classic country. It took
the classic country format, and the call letter KTFX in 1994. Before that,
the KTFX call letters were used by 103.3. Now, the former KTOW/KTFX is KRTQ,
or Rock 102.3...basically a 80's and 90's rock station.
Jim Back - 04/21/99 04:45:25
Location: Edmond, OK
The story we always heard is that he wanted a radio station to match the one owned by his friend/competitor W. G. Skelly, which was KVOO. When AM radio was in its heyday the FCC assigned a few stations around the country as "clear channel" stations, meaning they were authorized to operate at the maximum allowable power of 50,000 watts and there would be no other stations anywhere else assigned to their frequency. The theory was that these stations would assure that people in rural areas could hear radio ntertainment without interference. The rest of the stations had to share their frequencies with other stations in other parts of the country.
So KRMG had to be shoehorned into its 740 MHz frequency without interfering with a Canadian clear channel station and a Houston, TX local station, both also at 740. Kerr wanted his station to serve not only Tulsa, but also Oklahoma City, so he aimed the station's signal southwest from its tower location near Mannford. It took (and still takes) six towers to direct the signal correctly.
That's the background on this story: In the late '70s a storm knocked one of the six towers down and the engineers spent several weeks after putting up the new tower, trying to match the directional pattern prescribed in the original FCC license agreement. They hired experts, and even called in FCC engineers to try to get it right. No one could match the proper pattern and the result was the KRMG signal encroached on the Canadian signal to a slight extent.
After extensive testing, station lawyers and the FCC attorneys concluded that most likely the signal never did comply with the legal pattern and that someone connected with the powerful Senator and "done whatever he needed to" to get the license approved anyway.
So KRMG is probably one of the only radio stations in the country that has
FCC approval to be out of FCC compliance.
M. Ransom - 04/20/99 23:27:44
"Do you remember when John Chick asked the little girl what she was giggling
about, and she said, on live TV, "Little Luther farted!" Jack Morris closed
his news show that night by saying, 'And God bless little Luther, wherever
Mike Bruchas - 04/20/99 21:10:51
Location: In the ozone.....
I remember KCNW, which I think became KXXO, being "countrypolitan" a format big in Kansas City that mixed country with light rock and worked! They and KTOW in Sand Springs were KVOO's attempted rivals. I also remember when KTOW (K The Old West) played country till sunset and soul all night.
When Oral shut down KORU - and I guess they had a commercial license - the station was sold & became a soul station in Far East Tulsa. I believe they broadcast from a dumpy house for a while, too.
Tulsa has always been an interesting radio town.
Did anyone ever answer Don Lundy's call letter quiz? What did KOME and KAKC
stand for? I know KOMA in OKC stood for K and the back half of Oklahoma.
Wasn't KKUL the soul station in the mid to late 70s?...it was pretty
Erick - 04/20/99 15:53:36
Yes, KVOO still broadcasts on 1170 am. They also broadcast on 98.5 fm. The 2 frequencies offer varied forms of country music, with the am frequency being more of a classic country station. I'm convinced that Billy Parker is the only voice on the am frequency.
KRMG has been all-news/talk for some time. They used to go by NewsRadio 740, but I think they've changed that to NewsTalk 740. I don't listen to them much except for during weather, as I can't stand Dr. Laura and Rush Limbaugh.
KAKC is owned by Clear Channel, and their studios and offices are in a bulding near 41st and I-44 I believe. KAKC recently went from a sport/talk format to an all-Spanish format.
I think KWEN and KRMG are run by different people. KWEN is run by Great Empire
Broadcasting. KRMG is run by the same people that run KRAV, and KJSR.
Mike Bruchas - 04/20/99 15:07:28
Location: Alexandria Media Center
Jim Back - 04/20/99 02:17:41
Location: Edmond, OK
It was pretty funny at the time, but to this day I've wondered if he didn't
do it on purpose.
Mike Bruchas - 04/20/99 00:08:58
Jim Back - 04/19/99 23:34:50
Location: Edmond, OK
Mike Bruchas - 04/19/99 14:04:27
Mark - 04/19/99 02:08:21
Stupidest local commercial: John's furniture 13003 E.Admiral Pl "Hi, I'm Toy!"
Bob Bailey - 04/18/99 03:13:52
Location: Moundridge, KS
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Mazzeppa of course
Stupidest local commercial: John F. Lawhon (1970)
How did you find TTM?: Stumbled
Has anyone heard of the "Wolfman of Lawton"? Back in the Mazeppa days,
there was an "urban legend" about such a creature.
Mike Bruchas - 04/16/99 23:51:28
Don Lundy - 04/16/99 01:55:03
Do you remember a kids show on KOTV in the mid 50s hosted by Bob Latting, who owned the Golden Drumstick (restaurant formerly on the NE corner of 11th and Lewis, I believe)?
He handed out silver dollars to kids who answered a question. I still have one I got on the show when I went as part of some kid's birthday party.
Runners-up got a dinner at the Golden Drumstick, which speaks a lot of chicken
prices in the mid 50s.
Debbie Sommers - 04/15/99 22:49:21
Location: Tulsa OK
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Daytime Soaps (if I can pull myself away from puter long enough) lol.. and nightly news channel 2
Stupidest local commercial: The one with the man waving his arm yelling "If you dont come see me, I can't save you any money!!!" That's so dumb!
How did you find TTM?: Youre on our Links Page :0) Friend!
Erick - 04/15/99 16:14:10
Now, a question. In the 70's, there used to be a show on (then) KTEW called
Oklahoma Forum. In the early 90's, there was a show with the same name on
KTFO, the latter show was hosted by Sam Jones. It was a public affairs-type
show. My question is, were these 2 shows similar? Was the second show just
a reincarnation of the first?
Bill Hensley - 04/15/99 16:03:10
Location: OKC, OK
How did you find TTM?: via ok.general
There's still an antenna there on Concharty Mt., but I haven't had the opportunity to try and get back up there (maybe one of these days).
Hurst Swiggart - 04/15/99 04:24:28
Location: Tulsa, OK
My first assignment was to assist the "crew" in preparing a grand promotion called the "89er Days. Al and crew built a huge Western style town out of 5'x10' cardboard painted to look like Dodge City (Al was a true artist) and assembled it on the hill as you approached channel 8.
Channel 8 was owned by John Griffin of Griffin Grocery and Jimmy Leake so the grocery put prize certificates in Griffin Coffee cans and buried hundreds of them all over Lookout Mountain...the people came in droves to seek their treasure.
The News anchor in those days was Jack Morris..Weather Don Woods..Sports Hal O'Halloran (when he died many years later the final song at the funeral was "Take Me Out to The Ballgame").
The womens show was hosted for years by Louise Bland and when she departed Betty Boyd was the premier hostess for years ( she is currently a State Legislator). Betty is the "Grand Dame" of Tulsa TV..a great lady!!!
Great stories abound about the early days of Tulsa TV and I am grateful for this site..Incidently the frequent contributor Mike Bruchus was a tremendous cameraman and production genius.
By the way Tuffy the Tiger was created by Homer Wayne Johnson and portrayed by "hisself" unless Wayne was on vacation or some other activity.
John Chick was the creator and producer of Zing and Tuffy and wrote such endearing songs as "Don't Ever Leave the Yard without Telling Mother". Truly one of the GREAT talents...Sad that he died so early..he was a really great Soul.
Lots of stories to tell...I have many great memories of Tulsa TV and would
not trade them for all the tea in China. Remember Tom Ledbetter as Uncle
Zeke and later the voice and presence of the talking tree "Leafy Bark"? We
all could go on and on and I hope we do...it is really fun to re-visit those
days. Audios for now.
Mike Bruchas ID'd Tuffy the Tiger for us as Wayne Johnson for us awhile back, although Jack Hobson had also seen Mike Denney don the stripes as well.
I watched Bozo the Clown as a kid, and I'm glad to now be able to put a name to him.
We're all looking forward to hearing any reminiscences that cross your mind.
Mike Bruchas - 04/14/99 13:22:47
Stupidest local commercial: Definitely ANDY EWING TOYOTA
Anyone have e-mail contact with Hurst Swiggart - Tulsa realtor and KTUL
production manager in the 70's? I think he may have also worked at 6 at one
time, too. Hursty might have some good stories to share here and also be
on-line in Tulseytown...
Andy Ewing...IN the statehouse! I saw in the paper that he is running
for political office.