|M. Ransom - 05/15/99 01:47:15
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Tuffy the Tiger
I just had a long chat with Roy Pickett, KTUL Photog mentioned by Mike Bruchas today. He is still sharp at 86. He told me some stories about working at Armed Forces Network in Munich before coming to work at KTUL radio. Roy was quite a wheeler-dealer with mead (also known as "wild moose milk" and made from sugar and whey) produced at a cheese factory in Germany. He parlayed this into a large supply of Italian wine that improved the AFN mess considerably.
He also recalled the time that AFN was broadcasting from Munich and Stuttgart. Planes used the Munich signal for direction. Munich was on a flat area, while Stuttgart was higher in elevation. When a plane crashed into a mountain due to assuming the Stuttgart signal was the Munich signal, they were ordered to broadcast a warning every 5 minutes or so.
He also remembered when Griffin-Leake acquired the station in Muskogee that became KTUL. He remembered a fellow named George Ketchum shooting pictures of Patti Page before she was Patti Page.
He confirmed Mike's surmise that management at some point directed that all those files of pictures be thrown away.
He is not on the internet, alas, but I will be talking with him again
Wayne "Tuffy" Johnson - 05/14/99 20:13:47
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Mr. Zing and Tuffy, of course
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Myself
Stupidest local commercial: The Rib Crib starring Tuffy
How did you find TTM?: KTULPHOTOG Link
Mike Bruchas - 05/14/99 16:17:50
Mark - 05/14/99 02:37:48
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Beth Rengel
Unfortunately, this is really a long shot unless someone happens to have
a recording of it from TV.
Mike Denney - 05/14/99 01:10:07
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Mazeppa
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Uncle Zeb & Betty Boyd
Stupidest local commercial: Reasors Foods
How did you find TTM?: Carl Bartholomew
Thanks to all the gurus here, we already knew a good bit about your career, but it's great to hear directly from you.
What was the title of your short film?
We'll be lookin' for ya!
Mike (Trivia is my middle name) Bruchas - 05/13/99 21:25:24
Stupidest local commercial: Any OK political spot - most were NASTY!
For Hamp Baker- his slogan was PUT YOUR STAMP ON HAMP! but can't remember the music. Wasn't he running for Corp. Commissioner or something arcane but powerful like that? He spent a lot of money on ads - as I recall.
I also seem to remember Sen. Jim Inhofe recycling video of him and kids riding in a Jeep from one campaign he lost - maybe as US Rep. to his gubernatorial campaign. KTUL did dubs or some of his spots I recall. I guess he figured he'd look just as boyish 2 years later...
It was funny because we were doing both work for him & Jim Jones and one day had to make a detour of Olivia Jones thru the film chain room to avoid running into Inhofe's folks in the KTUL 2nd floor hallways. I think also Olivia & Jim "took over" VP of Engineering Bob Snyder's office as a lounge when working at KTUL. 2 & 8 seemed to do most of the local pre-election spots.
Going back aways farther - the Page Belcher vs. Jim Jones first race which Jim Jones lost. Okies must have hated LBJ then - Jones was part of LBJ's staff in the White House. As a newly arrived Chicagoan in Tulsa, I could not believe the slogan that returned the semi-senile sounding but semi-effective Belcher to Congress. It was: "What do you want? A Page Belcher Republican or a (said sneeringly) Lyndon Johnson LIBERAL (again sneeringly) representing you in Congress? Vote Belcher!". All I can remember of Belcher is doing something to bring the waterway to Catoosa and having a Federal building named after him in Tulsa. What else did he do for Tulsa? Clue me in??
Do you remember the stupid 70's campaign for former Lt. Gov. Spencer Bernard? Something like, "Cast your vote for the man with 2 first names - Spencer Bernard!".
I can remember answering phones after the late news at KTUL several times - just before election day when some good ole boys up for minor posts would be callin' in and wanting to buy time to do a "talk" after Ironside - in the pre-Nightline era. Why they ever called during office hours, I'll never know. Probably they were sitting at home with Momma and got the idea it was time to "do TV".
In '74 or '76 at KTUL we stayed on late Monday night before primary day because KTUL had so much "inventory" of political spots sold that it exceeded normal daytime windows. We ran an old "B" Western movie till 2:30 in the morning with nothing but political buys and Buffalo Ranch Western Store slide spots. It may been the year Sen. Fulbright in Arkansas lost out - KTUL beamed into NW Arkansas and we saw a lot of media buys from there.
Any other T-town political stuff ya'all can think of????
"The man with two first names"...quite a distinction. I can think of a man with three first names: Lee Harvey Oswald.
I seem to remember commercials for Arkansas Governor Orville Faubus (what a handle!) on Tulsa TV.
Or, "E-D-M-O-N-D, S-O-N spells Edmondson"?
"David Hall, Oklahoma,
(This did not prove to be the case)
David Bagsby - 05/13/99 20:04:09
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Fantastic Theatre
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Beth Rengel
Stupidest local commercial: Lynn Hickey (yechh)
How did you find TTM?: by accident
A cover of Sonik Re-Entry...it's about time! I'll be anxious to hear it.
"Scope Them Turkeys Out" is proving to be elusive. Maybe it will turn
Mike Bruchas - 05/13/99 19:35:31
Location: The Twilight Zone
The DC newspaper critics today are panning the new Episode #1, even calling
my hero, Liam Neeson, a bit wooden in his acting in the role of Obi Wanta
John Hillis - 05/13/99 12:51:34
Location: Out in the Ether
Favorite Tulsa TV show: State Fair Remotes
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: The Rubber Dog
Stupidest local commercial: And Shawnee Adds the ME!
TW3 ran on NBC probably in '64. One season, two tops. David Frost hosted/was a writer on both the Brit version and NBC's, but otherwise the cast was American. Buck Henry was one of the writers and occasionally performed.
A highlight was the theme, which had new topical lyrics each week, sung by the "TW3 Girl," Nancy Ames.
Oh yeah, somebody asked a long while ago, the Channel 6 news music in early-mid 70's (before the "take a look" package) was from an industrial music package and had some wonderful title like "Upbeat Institutional" or something like that. Doug Dodd would probably remember the exact name.
Why can I remember this stuff, but can't recall where I put the car keys?
Some of the other cast members were Alan Alda, Tom Bosley, Henry Morgan, Phyllis Newman, Sandy Baron and Burr Tillstrom's puppets. Tom Lehrer wrote many songs for this show which he later recorded, such as "The Vatican Rag", "The Dance of the Liberal Republicans" and "Whatever Became of Hubert?". The show was live from New York and set in a cabaret. TW3 was repeatedly pre-empted in the fall of election year 1964 by speeches and documentaries paid for by the Republicans. Coincidentally, Barry Goldwater was a frequent target of the show's satire.
The show was once interrupted with a news report from Jackson, Mississippi: UN paratroopers had just been dropped by Guatemalan Air Force planes to rescue Negro ministers, missionaries and civil rights workers.
Want to watch a little of the show? Go to:
P.S., what was "The Rubber Dog"?
Mike Bruchas - 05/13/99 12:19:51
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Go for Dough on the Early Show w/ Gary Chew
Erick - 05/13/99 04:37:50
Mike Bruchas - 05/13/99 01:06:02
Because if the writer did - Bill would do his live top of show opening of show greeting, "Good Evening, I'm Bill Pitcock" -- then go to read the prompter copy. Which might make him say the same thing again! I remember folks talking about this happening and rolling on the floor. - LOL - It still is one of my favorite "Moose" stories....
Speaking of Henry Lile - I think ace cameraman Buddy Allison told Henry used to be a milkman who liked to fly. I do remember Henry liking grass strips more than concrete pads to land on. Before 8 had SkyRoamer - 6 had Henry and his wind-up 16mm Kodak covering "aerials" of news stories.
Henry went to that great airstrip/newsroom in the sky I heard - but a lot
of us will remember him....
Mike Bruchas - 05/13/99 00:53:29
Favorite Tulsa TV show: KOTV News at 6 - produced by John Hillis
John runs ALLNEWSCO here - a sister company to KTUL. He also worked//created at CNN and News 12 Long Island - the NYC/Long Island 24 hr. cable news channel.
I think the best compliment John ever made to broadcasters and the people of Tulsa was - when he was developing ALLNEWSCO's News Channel 8 format here in DC -- he wanted a news channel that might emulate the kind and quality of news someone might see in Tulsa or a Tulsa-sized market. Like a lot of us "ex-pats" - we all felt there is/was good news work down in TulseyTown.
A lot of folks here watch News Channel 8 more than the local DC affiliates. He made it a success with a good mix of decent producers, younger reporters and older likeable personalities, good graphics, and some pretty good shooting/editing. It covers most of No. Virginia, the District and suburban MD with a unique way of splitting news coverage and spots to those 3 cable "neighborhoods" of the Capitol area for more regional coverage at different parts of the day.
Howdy, John! Let's hear more from ya!
John Hillis - 05/12/99 21:16:39
Location: Our Nation's Capital
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Lewis Meyer
Stupidest local commercial: Whether you call it balogna or baloney..
The hearty big-guy look and voice and the propensity to malaprop from scripts (some of 'em mine, I confess) that perhaps weren't the best written I think led the King/Woody to the "Moose" nickname.
Bill was a warm, likeable guy off-camera as well as on, and was, like his brothers Bob Gregory and Jim Pitcock, quite a newsman. Bill was trained in a CBS program at Columbia in the early-mid 60s.
I met Bob only once, but spent a fair amount of time with Jim in my work here.
Down in the basement, I also have a 3/4 tape of Bill dissolving in laughter
after calling the Hong Kong Flu the "King Kong Flu." All Irv Johnson could
do was roll the break...but it was a long, long three second pre-roll.
John Hillis - 05/12/99 20:52:14
Location: Washington, DC
Stupidest local commercial: Don't forget poor old Pappy
How did you find TTM?: Web Search for my name
Let me remember Henry Lile, who had the world's coolest job description: pilot-prompter operator. It was before my time in Tulsa, but I dubbed the film before I left of Henry's shots of the '74 E. Tulsa tornado onto a 3/4 tape, which no doubt still resides in the basement. Henry was flying back from somewhere to Harvey Young, a grass strip out east of TUL, ("I just don't feel right landing on concrete," Henry'd say), when he sees the funnel cloud. So, being Henry, he pulls out the trusty Kodak viewfinder camera, winds it up, and squeezes off 100 feet of twister-in-action, holding the wheel with his knees as he flies parallel to the path of destruction. I was told that after the film ran on the news, the FAA called Henry and suggested the proper course of action was to go _away_ from the tornado, and that if he did it again, he'd be running prompter full-time.
Henry got his first plane during Prohibition, with tanks that didn't hold gas. He was also one of the first pipeline patrol fliers. An amazing guy, and one of the constellation of characters at KOTV, which included Wayne Johnson (John Bateman shot a great feature when Merle Haggard brought Wayne and some other aging Texas Playboys to Nashville for a CBS special). Mike Bruchas will remember that Wayne would run commercials as Master Control for a Bob Wills record offer with a still of young Wayne on horseback with the sax. I always wondered how he felt about that.
Enough fun for one day. Let me recover strength and we can talk about Bob
Losure's suit and M.Conto!
Erick - 05/12/99 04:03:29
M. Ransom - 05/12/99 01:37:20
Erick - 05/12/99 00:20:08
Mike Bruchas - 05/11/99 21:31:36
Location: Atlantic Media Center - Alexandria, VA
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: "The Shade Tree Mechanic"
The McCartney family I think came from the Chicago area. They had been with IGA or some other chain, picked Tulsa because it seemed likea good place to open up financially.
The stores were in Tulsa and with I think 1 in OKC. The store robbed I think was at 71st & Sheridan.
Oertle's (say URT-lees) was on Sheridan by the BA Expyway. It like Looboyle's seemed like - "Tulsa only stores".
Oertle's was drug/food/Kmart type store.
Looboyle's - who sponsored Joe Krieger - started selling lube oil and gas
at 11th & Xanthus way back when - a great funky location. I think before
the chain went bust - got up to 4 or 5 stores in Tulsa. Good prices on auto,
stereo - even knew a Tulsa World photog who used to buy his Nikon lenses
at Looboyle's. They took over a big space at South Roads Mall on 2 floors
plus expanded to larger new stores all over Tulsa. This may have led to their
financial collapse. Us Looboyle's shoppers miss 'em.
Erick - 05/11/99 20:57:59
Jim Back - 05/11/99 20:17:59
Location: Edmond, OK
Erick - 05/11/99 16:21:37
Mike Bruchas - 05/11/99 12:01:37
Loz - 05/11/99 07:55:21
Favorite Tulsa TV show: None
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: none
Stupidest local commercial: none
How did you find TTM?: Geoguide ad
Hurst Swiggart - 05/11/99 03:29:52
Location: Tulsa. Ok
Lee is one of those great personalities they never should have let get
away. He is one of the wittiest people I've ever seen.
Mark - 05/11/99 00:57:02
Favorite Tulsa TV show: 6 in the morning
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Beth Rengel
I watched a special with Clayton Vaughn as he was reminiscing about news, sports and weather nachors from the past. He mentioned Dale Hogg who did the weekend weather on 6 was in Washington D.C. and is in good health.
Maybe the reason Bill Pitcock was given the name "The Moose" was because
he was tall and big.
Jim Back - 05/10/99 21:30:16
Location: Edmond, OK
Stupidest local commercial: "Ugh. U-Need-um Tires?"
My wife had him as her ob-gyn after he established his practice. She says
he moved to Poteau in the early-to-mid '80s and that he has since moved to
Stillwater. She says he told her he was raised a country boy and wanted his
son to grow up the same way.
Ray L. Rivera - 05/10/99 15:11:09
Location: Louisville, KY
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Uncanny Film Festival
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: How Could I Have Forgotten "The Moose?"
Stupidest local commercial: Linda Soundtrak-endearing, but annoying!
How did you find TTM?: Floated on by in the Web
Mike Bruchas - 05/09/99 23:11:33
Erick - 05/09/99 16:59:25
M. Ransom - 05/09/99 15:52:53
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Peggy Shaber, cooking up a storm on "Coffee Break"
I'm still going over your site whenever I get a chance. Great stuff. I used
to watch Uncle Zeb and actually used to live in John Chick's neighborhood
and watched his morning show on KTUL after Mr. Zing left the air. I thought
about him last Feb when I performed on the KOTV morning show (They've been
very nice to Daddy A Go Go) and how he really was unique in having live and
local music on the air. And I laughed out loud reading that story about Don
Woods and the Ice Tea. I worked with him at 8 and that is exactly what he
would have done. Don was an amazingly great guy to work with.
Erick - 05/09/99 15:08:36
Mike Bruchas (again) - 05/09/99 13:17:03
Like Dr. Dan Baxter - former KTUL anchor and producer - now delivering babies in Tulsa. Should have some tales of KTUL in the mid-70's.
Or Doug Dodd - now an attorney but a fixture at KMOD, KTUL and KOTV before he got his law degree. A great raconteur - if you can e-find him - on TulseyTown broadcasting in the 70's/80's. He can probably explain how Pitcock became the "Moose"....
Kitty Roberts was at KMOD and KXXO before going on to start the American Theatre Company. She is still doing voice talent work. She, too, might have some good radio stuff to chuckle at....
Dale Hogg - worked at 6 as a back-up everything guy as talent on weekends - usually sports but I think he did weather and anchored too. His real job was either with Southwestern Bell or PSO I think. Where is he now?
Duane Jones was a Today Show cut-in talent at 2 for years. It seemed he was relegated there forever - never made it to the 2 News at Noon. Where did he go?
His brother Alvin Jones also worked at 2 in the studio but forsake it to come to OKC. Alvin worked a couple of tours at OETA in the studio as a senior cameraman and was part of the founding tech crew with me that put KGMC ch.34 on the air.
So many people - so much e-space to search!
Mike Bruchas - 05/09/99 12:55:02
Location: Stuck in the 70's in TulseyTown
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Hands down - Uncle Zeb!
On another note - Doctors Jan Kizziar and Judy Hagedorn of Generation Gap - Dr. Judy was/is married to Frank Hagedorn - who was a US Attorney in Tulsa for a while. I think Dr. Jan was or is in Bartlesville. I could not really tell them apart at times! They were very earnest in all they did, considering the show aired late late at night or Saturday afternoons with almost zero audience then.
Speaking of station sign-offs and Indian signer Dick West - we got calls for him at 8 a lot - they thought he was on staff there. We used him as talent on this one thing only.
8 ran 3 different sign-offs for variety - High Flight from the USAF and the other 2 I forget. We had envy for the snazzy sign-off WKY-TV ran for years starting in '76 - very snazzy montage of pictures.
Speaking of off-the-air times at KTUL. 8 went dark at midnight on Sundays for maintenance - all the senior engineers worked 11pm-7am except the junior ones. With spit and bailing wire it all ran well due to their efforts and a generally cheap Jimmy Leake who took all the profits to play with his car collection - made money.
On Mondays - coming in at 5:45am and KTUL being off air we saw another station.
On our Conrac off-the-air tuner with pick-up antenna on the Look-out Mtn.
antenna, we watched KNOE in Monroe, LA (ch.8) sign-on thru the buzz before
we signed on. It was weird watching ANOTHER ch.8 in Tulsa. We assumed WFAA
TV in Dallas was closer but evidently KNOE was kicking out more power or
had a more directional antenna pattern. We were probably the only folks in
Tulsa to ever see this...
"High Flight" is still seen in Tulsa on KOED at sign-off time. You know, if you actually listen to it, the guy who wrote the piece sounds more egotistic than reverent about the whole thing.
Is Dick West a Tulsan? Any more information about him?
M. Ransom - 05/09/99 06:22:34
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Mike Miller, KOTV reporter
M. Ransom - 05/09/99 00:37:17
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Bill "Moose" Pitcock
(p.s., why was Bill Pitcock called "Moose"?)
Carl Bartholomew aka "Uncle Zeb" - 05/08/99 15:55:20
How did you find TTM?: Hurst Swiggart
Most vivid Zeb memory was on Zoo Day when a spider monkey climbed atop my
hat and peed from there down into my boot and sh*t carrot chunks all at the
same time, live, on the air. Mike Denney was directing that show and captured
all the action. If you want to get in touch with me, contact Hurst Swiggart.
Uncle Zeb is still back woodsey and without a computer. Thanks for the memories
boys and girls. I'll be lookin' for ya!!!! P.S. Produced, directed, wrote,
and played the lead in a straight to video feature, Cole Justice, in 1988.
Was in all Blockbuster stores, 20 foreign countries and two schedules on
Showtime and The Movie Channel. Think it is also available on Amazon.com.
During that spider monkey episode, did Mike Denney have any trouble keeping the camera from shaking?
I'll check Amazon.com and get links up here to your book and movie.
Great to hear from you!
M. Ransom - 05/07/99 15:45:03
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Wirt Cain
Bob Bailey - 05/07/99 00:05:02
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