May 25 2007 at 20:28:47 Name: Dave Bartlett Topic: 1957 Email:
dbartlettatameritechdotcom Comments: Where to begin! 1957 was a year to remember for
a 15-year-old kid growing up and living in Tulsa. Obviously it was the year
of "the car" soon to emerge from its residence for lo these many years.
It was a year of working on staff at Camp Garland, of attending the Boy Scout
4th National Jamboree. It was a year of longing for my drivers license so
I too could cruise Penningtons. I remember far too many things about Tulsa
to talk about in one session.
Other outstanding memories include going to the "Tulsan", a five and dime
at 21st and Lewis (I think), of riding my bike three blocks to Steve's Sundries
and trying to be cool while looking at the Playboy Magazines on the top shelf
of the mag rack.
If I remember, my school, Edison, was doing well in the football department
and being in the band meant going to Skelly Stadium before games to set up.
I remember "Lotta Burger", Sipes.
That might have been the year of several bad tornados in the Tulsa area and
since my Dad was head of the Red Cross in Tulsa I got to see all the action.
I might remember sandbagging the flood along the Arkansas (not sure of that
year though). (1956 pics of flooding, with comments from Jim Ruddle and
Frank Morrow in GB
I lived in Tulsa from 1952 through 1967 (with 3 years out while in the Army
band). Tulsa may very well be my favorite city in the world (OK, maybe Paris)
and I have many, many more memories I could share if anyone is interested,
at another time.
Anyway--all for now! "I wish you bluebirds in the Spring...." (from the
table-side jukebox at St. Michael's Alley!)
May 25 2007 at 15:53:49 Name: Rick Clark Topic: Faron Young Email: email@example.com Comments: OK, now for something WAY off base. Perhaps some
of you older-timers can help. I seem to recall back in the early seventies(?)
singer Faron Young got into some trouble while in Tulsa for a show. Something
about indecent exposure perhaps? Little help?
"In December 1976 I drove from my Oklahoma City home to attend Faron's concert
in Tulsa. I don't remember what he said about it being his first Oklahoma
concert in two years. The Tulsa district attorney had issued an arrest warrant
for a felony charge of indecent exposure after Faron's New Year's Eve show
in 1974. It didn't matter that people had refused to leave his dressing room
when he changed clothes. It didn't matter that a woman was coerced into pressing
charges because the promoters wanted to extort money from Faron. It didn't
matter that she soon tried to drop the charges. The Tulsa DA persisted for
over a year in attempting to extradite Faron from Tennessee for trial, before
finally dropping the charges due to lack of evidence."
May 24 2007 at 13:08:25 Name: Webmaster Topic: Rose Bowl
The Rose Bowl is making a comeback next month as a venue for concerts,
shows and private gatherings. More (but not much more) at
May 23 2007 at 21:24:37 Name: John Hillis Topic: Dodd or
me? Comments: A question nobody would ask now...but I think maybe
it's me on the left in the Clayton, Broo and Who video clip. Doug generally
had a better (or at least more frequent) haircut, and, odd as it seems when
I look in the mirror at the all-too-visible top of my head now, I had that
much hair back then. I also wore glasses back then because I was too lazy
to put in contact lenses. (Two cataract surgeries in the
last five years have solved that problem for me, anyway)
Even back then, I was considerably, uh, thicker, shall we say, than Doug.
He was and still is better looking and has a better voice.
It was good to see the Monroe time calculator on the desk in the foreground
of the shot too. By the time I got to it, the name on the front had been
broken off to read "Monpoi" but the calculator told the producers of many
a newscast how "light" they were in cold, hard print on a tape. Made a satisfying
mechanical noise as it was considering the bad news, too. Only one I ever
saw of its kind in my checkered career. With the five teletypes (CBS, Weather
Service, 2 AP, UPI, each at a sizzling 300 baud) in the little glass room
behind the producer's desk, there was plenty of mechanical noise around my
little workspace. Not to mention the cheering sound of Bob Duff calling in
"10-8, 10-19" on the two-way terminal ("KKY-615 clear"), also in the foreground.
During my tenure there, the old wirephoto machine was replaced by a laser
photo printer the size of a small refrigerator, the latest in 70's technology.
Oops. I have seen Doug Dodd in several newsroom pics, and the hair style
and glasses fooled me.
May 23 2007 at 21:21:22 Name: David Bagsby Topic: TV Tubes Email: dcbzatsunflowerdotcom Comments: Here's an
with an item that surfaces here on occasion.
May 23 2007 at 19:17:29 Name: Rick Brashear Topic: 1957 Memories
Comments: Ok, so how do we post in the 1957 blog. I find no buttons
to click on for posting, just previous postings.
Well, it's not a blog, but if you'd like to add something, post it here
with the topic "1957", and I'll move it over.
May 23 2007 at 09:53:31 Name: Michael Bates Topic: Looking for Tulsa 1957 memories Email: blog at batesline dot com Comments: I'm crossposting this from batesline.com. I figure
this is the place to find people with long memories...
I'm working on a story for Urban Tulsa in connection with the upcoming unearthing
of the 1957 Plymouth Belvedere time capsule, and I need your help. I want
to convey to readers who weren't around then what Tulsa was like 50 years
If you lived or worked or visited Tulsa in 1957, whether you were a child,
a teenager, or a grown-up, I want to hear your memories. You don't have to
be able to remember anything earth-shattering. I'm looking for things like
favorite places to eat out, your school, your church, your neighborhood
(particularly if you lived in vanished neighborhoods -- e.g., just north
of downtown, in Greenwood, west of Denver downtown, or in the Locust Park
area), teen hangouts, where you shopped for groceries, what you did for fun
in the summer time, what it was like to visit downtown. If you remember anything
about the big events of that year -- such as the massive May flood, the car
burial, the Tulsarama semi-centennial celebration -- I'd like to hear about
You can e-mail me at blog at batesline dot com. If you'd rather talk than
write, e-mail me with your phone number, and I'll give you a call. My deadline
is next Tuesday (day after Memorial Day), so the sooner I hear from you,
the more likely I'll be able to use your memories in the story.
TTM has a compilation of Tulsa
1957 reminiscences, with several associated pages linked at the top.
We're still open to comments in that vein.
May 23 2007 at 08:39:20 Name: Louise Bland Topic: On-the-air interview with the "Duke"
Email: firstname.lastname@example.org Comments: John Wayne (The Duke) surprised me following an
interview by telling me he didn't like my last name. I needed to consider
changing it. The name Bland isn't suitable for you. When I asked what he'd
suggest, he tilted his head, looked up, and said "'Pepper'--certainly you're
We laughed and I promised to consider his suggestion. Loved that special
time. He had a way about him that put you at ease--like talking to a good
May 23 2007 at 06:43:36 Name: Jeff Topic: John Wayne Comments: I saw the posts about John Wayne earlier, he
would have been 100 this Saturday (May 26), Turner Classic Movies and AMC
are running his films, plus the Western Channel is playing 100 hours of his
films this weekend.
One of my favorite of his appearances was on "The Lucy Show" in 1965 to promote
the War Wagon, where Morgan Woodward was playing the villain (the man has
been on everything and everywhere!!)
May 22 2007 at 22:52:00 Name: Lois Topic: Jack Bunds Email: email@example.com Comments: When you miss a night or two of the news, a new
Sports Director can show up, and one never knows what happened to the former
Sports Director. So, would anyone be able to tell me what happened to Jack
Management said Jack was doing a fine job, but they wanted to go a different
direction. Chris Lincoln was hired back as Sports Director. Jack doesn't
yet know what his next move will be.
May 22 2007 at 09:38:30 Name: Louise Bland Topic: Tulsa Centennial next month Email: firstname.lastname@example.org Comments: Tulsa will be packed--plus I'll be there as well
from June 14th through 18th. Hope I run into a few of you guys who're online
all the time. Especially Mike, our webmaster.
A bunch of us from different parts of the counry are meeting at the Polo
Grill in Utica Square on Saturday night. A brunch or two to attend, then
I'm on my own. Anyone who'd like to send me their telephone number, I'll
call and maybe we can meet somewhere.
Mike, sorry but I've forgotten how to use html. :)) Also you're asking me
to type the characters displayed. Checking to see if I'm drinking? heh! :))
I look forward to meeting you in person, Louise.
Those characters you are asked to type when making an entry to the GroupBlog
are to stop spambots from adding garbage. Only a (sober) human can read those
characters, then type them in.
Speaking of the Duke, Louise interviewed him and many other celebrities
on her show in Tulsa. Check it out on the fascinating
Louise Bland page.
May 21 2007 at 22:42:54 Name: Webmaster Topic: Dewey, Clayton, Broo, and Who?
Here's a short clip with Ken Broo interrupting a Clayton Vaughn promo
in the late 70s (Doug Dodd John Hillis can be seen to the
left), followed by a strange, unintelligible man butting into a 60s interview
with Sen. Dewey Bartlett at the courthouse.
May 21 2007 at 22:14:43 Name: Jeff H Topic: Another Hollywood Legend Email: "Hangin' Ten" Through
Life Comments: Katherine Hepburn would have been 100 years old
this year as well. She was one of the best Hollywood gave us.
If you are a "Duke" fan Turner Classic Movies is running several of his movies
this week. "Take 'em to Topeka."
May 21 2007 at 17:43:31 Name: Mike Bruchas Topic: John Wayne Comments: I see where The Duke would have been 100 years
old on May 26th. He'll live another 100 on DVD or whatever comes next!
May 21 2007 at 13:24:52 Name: Erick Topic: Malibu Grand Prix Email: email@example.com Comments: I lived across a field from the Malibu Grand Prix
which was right off of I-35 in OKC. I would sneak over there with change
I found in the couch cushions to ride the go karts. They had 2 kinds of go
karts. One for kids and one for older kids and adults. All drivers were required
to have a "license". As I recall, the only requirement to get a license was
that you had to be of a specific height. I cheated on the height test to
Malibu had a marketing deal with Warner Brothers, because there was a Looney
Tunes theme there.
May 20 2007 at 20:44:21 Name: Kenny Bolen Topic: Lakeview Email: firstname.lastname@example.org Comments: Thanks again! Man. That's to that I was close! Yes.
Lakeview was the facility. I loved the little pedal cars on the rails and
I want to say that there were bumper cars going on as well.
I also wanted to inquire about the old John Zink Ranch. Again, my grandparents
would take me out there to watch the motorcycle races and the hill climb
contest's. My grandparents had sent me a ton of pictures. I will go through
and see if any may be helpful.
May 20 2007 at 10:23:20 Name:
Webmaster Topic: Where's My Jetpack? Comments:
Tulsa native Dr. Daniel H. Wilson was on CBS' Sunday Morning program today.
His first book (soon to be a major motion picture starring Mike Myers) was
mentioned in GB
His new book is called
My Jetpack?: A Guide to the Amazing Science Fiction Future that Never
May 20 2007 at 09:10:08 Name: Webmaster Topic: Sofa King Comments:
I noticed the other day that we have a Mattress King store here in Tulsa.
This Saturday Night Live sketch mentions a fictitious Mattress King
It also spoofs local TV advertising in which the owner and family serve
as the on-air talent, like
Newport Motors ("My
Daddy says buy new car") in the past, and Mathis Brothers Furniture and Glover
Chevy ("Dad'll do it") today in Tulsa.
If you, too, possess a juvenile sense of humor, you may get a kick out
of this PG-rated (for a homonymic phrase) clip. Don't play it loud at work.
May 19 2007 at 23:17:26 Name: Gary Chew Topic: Just SW of the Donner Party Family
Grill Email: Just SW of the Donner Party
Family Grill Comments: Joe, yes. The Donner Party Family Grill is "all
you can eat".....but, just one family at a time.
Regarding Claxton's marvelous blooper on view here: That's what I always
liked about Clay: when we lost it, he didn't make any bones about it. It
gave KOTV, in those days, that something extra special that television doesn't
have much of anymore, except for Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert.
I think Clay would've been okay with that copy unless it had been written,"FILL
their (cash) drawers."
I'm thinking Kitty Gibbons should get a gold star next to her name or, at
least, a week's vacation WITHOUT pay from KOTV.
Delmeaux de Gillette du Coffeyville
May 19 2007 at 09:43:32 Name: Kenny Bolen Topic: Kartville Email: email@example.com Comments: Yes. Now I do recall the track being located around
Sheridan. You're right. We had a thick plastic board that we used and sit
at the first corner moving golf tees to account for the laps ran. For the
life of me, I can't recall the price but remember it was 7 laps. Later,
technology took over and we moved to a timer (5 minutes). I also remember
the Malibu Grand Prix out by the Pepsi plant off 44 there in West Tulsa.
Scroll down for another shot. Courtesy of the Beryl Ford Collection/Rotary
Club of Tulsa (added 12/23/07)
May 19 2007 at 00:09:22 Name: Don Lundy Topic: Kart Track at 11th and 73rd E.
Avenue Email: firstname.lastname@example.org Comments: At one time, wasn't there a midget rental car track
called "Little 500" at 11th Street and 73rd E. Ave.? I think I can remember
one in that area, probably late 50s before Go-Karts came East from California.
And, I believe there was another midget track on Yale around Dawson Road.
May 19 2007 at 00:02:36 Name: David Bagsby Topic: KartVille Email: dcbzatsunflowerdotcom Comments: There used to be a Go Kart track over by my house
at 11th and 73rd East Ave...right next to the Rose Bowl. Wasn't that skateboard
park that turned into Putt Putt miniature golf some kind of mini-bike
track?...located at East 12th and Memorial.
May 18 2007 at 18:00:51 Name: Joe Topic: No Longer In Tulsa (And Never Were)
Email: aa5drvr at yahoo dott
calm Comments: The automat
discussion got me to thinking (very dangerous thing.)
How many other things were planned for Tulsa but never quite got off of the
More recently the Griffin Wheel plant off of Apache and 145th? Built a
multi-million dollar plant, but they never opened it. Huge white building
along the BNSF tracks, and never opened.
I recall then mayor Susan Savage refer to some kind of air freight hub facility.
She could never talk about specifics, but it died also.
Indoor sprint car stadium in Vinita or Miami.
May 18 2007 at 17:54:32 Name: Joe Topic: KartVille Email: Is the Donner Family Grill,
"All You Can Eat?" Comments: In the old days, KartVille was located just west
of Sheridan on 15th Street. I seem to recall the track "attendant" kept track
of the number of laps by some kind of board with pegs in it.
That wasn't far from the never-built Automat.
May 18 2007 at 15:46:27 Name: Webmaster Topic: Claxton loses it Comments:
From a 1978 KOTV Tulsa newscast: Clayton Vaughn has a problem with the
copy given him by Kitty Gibbons. Tape courtesy of Chris Sloan.
May 18 2007 at 14:01:04 Name: TTM Fan Topic: Cathey's Email: Extremely SE of Tulsa Comments: Thanks for the great site--I have been logging in
and reading the GB and other items here for 5+ years now.
The question about Shawnee's in GB 241 led me to ask about something I have
wanted to know for a long time: does anyone have a picture of Cathey's or,
better yet, a wav file or other recording of their commercial tag line:
"Cathey's, 8th to 9th, on Main." For some reason, I loved that commercial.
I have always associated it with the art deco class that was and is downtown
I'm always on the lookout for it. That line, "Cathey's, 8th to 9th, on
Main" was mentioned in the 10th entry (from the bottom) of
Click for full scene. Courtesy of the Beryl Ford Collection/Rotary
Club of Tulsa (added 12/23/07)
May 18 2007 at 13:53:23 Name: Kenny Bolen Topic: Kartville Email: email@example.com Comments: How many remember Kartville? It was located on Mingo
between 41st and 51st Street. I worked there in the summers of my high school
years ('74-'79) and after school during its seasonal operation. I believe
there was a previous location before it moved to Mingo and I completely forgot
where that was.
I was always grateful to the owners Gary and JoAnn Beniger and had a blast
working there. I know that has been gone a long while since the widening
of Mingo and the all the new commerce that has been established.
On Peoria, 1960. Courtesy of the Beryl Ford Collection/Rotary Club
of Tulsa (added 12/23/07)
May 18 2007 at 11:03:43 Name: Kenny Bolen Topic: Correction Email: firstname.lastname@example.org Comments: My mistake. It was the old Airview Drive-In next
to the Pines.
What about the old Mohawk Amusement Park? I believe it was out on Yale Ave.
past Apache near the Mohawk Pond. When we were very little, our grandparents
would take us out there for the Pow-Wows. I remember that they also had a
few kiddie rides and games out there as well.
That's Lakeview Amusement Park. Not much yet, but Lowell Burch has some
home movie footage that I will get out here shortly. There are enough comments
about the park to start a page. Here is a Lakeview photo on
May 18 2007 at 10:08:29 Name: Dave Topic: Walter on tonight
Comments: Programming alert: Tonight CBS will present a one-hour
special commemorating Walter Cronkite's career on the occasion of his 90th
(!) birthday. It's at 7 p.m. Central time. There's a great
of it in today's Washington Post.
May 18 2007 at 09:35:34 Name: Kenny Bolen Topic: Very Cool Email: email@example.com Comments: Having moved to New England about 12 years ago,
I shared many of these memories with the friends I have made here and now
much to my enjoyment, a site dedicated to many of those fine times.
I, too, remember
(I tried so often to imply how the opening music would start) and us kids
would just freeze up waiting for the voice to come in and take us to the
crypt of the waiting movie. Now, it seems most were very hoakey but to a
5 year old, it was the best you could get. I not only watch these movies
today, but I still cherish the memories I have watching it with my Grandpa.
Growing up on the northside in the era, I have witnessed many of the areas
dedicated to this site. I actually was on that
roller coaster at the
Skyline. For some reason, I remember it being called the "Fun Spot" but
the location seems to be very close to where my Grandfather's company held
I also have a very fond memory of the drive-ins there. The Admiral Twin,
which I believe was next to the Pines where we ate many times. Thanks to
those who contributed to the site and sharing the stories and information.
I for one am very thankful.
You're welcome, Kenny. I think you must be referring to the
It was on Pine, less than a half mile from
The Pines (which
you can see in this screen shot from "The Outsiders".) The
Admiral Twin was
less than a mile from the Airview.
May 18 2007 at 06:00:20 Name: John Boydston Topic: My Son,The Folk Singer
Comments: Don't forget the late great Allan Sherman's Downtown
parody, lyrics found on the web and reposted below. For you youngsters, the
dance referred to below is the Frug, pronounced "Froog" long o sound. Wasn't
there a department store in Tulsa with the same name, spelled "Froug's" at
(Sung to the tune of Petula Clark's Downtown)
Mommy and Dad are never nervous or mad
When you teenagers go downtown.
Daddy and Mom just stay at home and be calm
And watch the late late show uptown.
Cause when you kids are gone we get to spend some time alone here
That's our only chance to use the bathtub or the phone here
When you're away
Besides, we're stuck where we are
Because you kids took our money, you kids took our car and went
Downtown, where can you possibly
Downtown, it's twenty after three
Downtown, what do you mean by, "Let's frug"?
You don't come home till 4 AM cause you're roaming
In the streets somewhere, downtown.
We would feel swell if only someone would tell us
What goes on down there, downtown.
But every time we ask you what you're doing after dark there
You just say that you were frugging to Petula Clark there
That's what I mean
So, kids, give your folks a break
Because you're driving us crazy, we sit here all night and take
Pill town, swallowing pills so we'll
Calm down, counting the hours you're
Downtown, you and your frug and your slop.
While we're lying there we try to watch the television
Then you call us up and say you've had a slight collision
There goes the car
Besides that you've been arrested
So we've got to get up, and we've got to get dressed and go
Downtown, borrow a car and go
Downtown, that's where you are, you finks,
Downtown, wait 'till I get you kids home.
(Spoken) There'll be no more frug'ing, no swing, no jerk, no mashed potato,
no slop! And you know what else? You're gonna stay home tonight, and your
mother and I are going downtown and we're going to dance the tango, and the
waltz, and the foxtrot, and we're gonna do the bunny hop. That's a nice dance!
And there'll be no more frug'ing! Is that quite clear? NO MORE FRUG'ING!
May 17 2007 at 19:56:18 Name: Wilhelm Murg Topic: Mad Magazine Email: Wilhelmurg at yahoo dot
com Comments: I don't remember it, but I found this on the web:
(Sung to the tune Downtown by Petula Clark)
When you eat meat but hate the meat that you're eating
then you've surely got, GROUND ROUND
It's so unnerving when they're constantly serving
in an eating spot, GROUND ROUND
I may be called a chopped steak, a salisbury or beef patty
No matter what it's called it's always overcooked and fatty
What can you do?
Go up to your waiter there, and loudly pound on your table,
stand up on your chair, and shout:
GROUND ROUND, always you're serving me,
GROUND ROUND, always you're conning me,
GROUND ROUND, why must it always be,
GROUND ROUND, Ground Round, ground round...
May 17 2007 at 19:25:23 Name: Mitch Gray Topic: What Me Worry? Email: Empty Fridge Box in
B-ville Comments: Anyone have the lyrics to Mad Magazine's parody
A recent Visa ad features this tune and all I could think of was "Ground
I'm certain those Mad rags and that darn "fold-in" helped shape me into the
upstanding citizen that I am today.
And whatever happened to the "Pink Barn Dancers" and that studio? Think it
was on Memorial 'tween 15th and 21st.
May 16 2007 at 19:57:44 Name: Wilhelm Murg Topic: Another obnoxious bombardment of
self-promotion Email: Wilhelmurg at yahoo dot
com Comments: I just got two more blogs up. First is a review
of a new collection of the pinup art of the late, great Bill Ward, who is
best known for his "legitimate" work in "Cracked" (if you call "Cracked"
legitimate,) along with his girly art in "Sex to Sexy," "Joker," and many
more winking sexy cartoon digests. The new book is a Fantagraphics publication,
which is best known as the cradle of the alternative comix/outsider art movement.
This week's TIGER BEAT FROM HELL!!! is simply four CD reviews on the new
extended re-issue of The Residents' "Freak Show," a new release by the great
and haunting Ego Plum, a new release by The Grails -- which is a stunning
and exotic instrumental album, and the satirical musical group, The Asylum
Street Spanker's, "Mommy Says No," which is a children's album for adults.
There's a review further down in the blog of David Lynch's
May 16 2007 at 13:54:11 Name: Webmaster Topic: Lee & Lionel with Claxton Email: (This and more linked from
top of the L&L
References in this video for younger readers: Joe DiMaggio, besides being
a New York Yankee all-time great, was a spokesman for "Mr. Coffee", the first
home-use automatic drip coffee maker (1972). "Mrs. Olson" was the star of
a series of 1960s Folger's Coffee commercials. She was acted by Virginia
Christine, who once played the part of a servant in "Judgment at Nuremburg."
This may be the basis of the King's "Nazi spy" comment.
(Added 9/23/2007) I was just watching the Hitchcock Cold War thriller,
"North by Northwest" with Cary Grant. There is a housekeeper resembling Mrs.
Olson who pulls a gun on the hero. Maybe that's what Lionel was alluding
Here is Swedish-American Mrs. Olson in action:
May 15 2007 at 22:33:29 Name: Gary Chew Topic: Bob Wills and Tulsa Email: Just SW of the Donner Party
Family Grill Comments: Hey, I'm sittin' here in Sacramento listening to
KVMR FM in Nevada City, CA. They're broadcasting---LIVE---Asleep At The Wheel
in concert in Chico, CA. Asleep just did a segment on Bob Wills. First up,
"Take Me Back To Tulsa!" I'm cryin' in my Crystal Geyser. That's the only
strong stuff I drink these days.
Oh yes, Tulsa can only get KVMR online,
its frequency is 89.5. It don't come in too well there in Green Country for
May 15 2007 at 12:15:22 Name: Webmaster Topic: Previous GroupBlog summary
Breaking news in this GB: Gailard Sartain painted the Mayfest poster art,
which is being super-sized onto the Crowne Plaza Hotel downtown. Mayfest
starts Thursday ...Chris Lincoln is back as Channel 8 Sports Director...Gary
Shore up in Iowa made a contrarian Tulsa weather prediction that proved
correct...Uncle Zeb had a new book published.
Burger fever was back: readers remembering Sandy's, Griff's, and Chuc
Wagun were directed to photos and graphics from past GBs. We learned that
in the 60s, there was to have been an Automat at the SW corner of 11th &
Sheridan (instead, it became a Consumers service station, then a car lot).
We saw the Admiral Twin's marquee in a detailed 1962 photo. "Twin Peaks"
is going to be shown at the Circle Cinema starting tomorrow (5/16). Gary
Chew suffered some ribbing about his name.
John Walls' stepson mentioned ads for Grandpa John's/Walls Discount Furniture.
Dewey The Barber's history was detailed.