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|Time: June 08 2003 at 19:25:35
Name: Dan Wright
Location: Yakima Washington
Comments: I noticed the recent renovations at the Mayo Hotel. It is strange to see a place that has been closed almost since before I was born reopen. What is the story behind the lobby columns? Shouldn't they be round and fluted? or is that something they are going to put back later? Still the old place looks wonderful.
I lived downtown for a while and used to look in the windows. I could never
imagine how someone could let that happen to such a magnificent building.
|Time: June 08 2003 at 09:40:10
Name: Chuck Fullhart
Location: Gaitin Raidy to Taik on Bolo the Grait
I think the only thing that Lynda Carter didn't do as Wonder Woman was take on Mr. Magnificent in the process of keeping us safe from Nazis and Communists. It was an interesting program, but as I remember there were only two things that essentially kept the program interesting.
Mike Bruchas told of a visit by Lynda Carter to his office in Guestbook 50.
|Time: June 08 2003 at 08:52:40
Name: Jim Ruddle
Location: Rye, NY
I recently needed to get some 2" tape from the sixties transferred to Beta. I was referred to Research Video, in Burbank, California, and, while very willing to help, found they couldn't get the old stuff to lock up. They recommended another outfit, DC Video, also in Burbank, and the fellow who runs it, David Croswaite, has the equipment that does the magic. It's not terribly cheap, but when nobody else can do the job, the price is right.
His number is (818) 563-1073.
This is not a commercial plug, just a bit of information you might be able
|Time: June 08 2003 at 00:54:24
Comments: Played a little joke on a pro wrestling message board...discovered via logs that someone there had linked directly to a photo of "Mr. Wrestling II" from this site's "Rasslin' Page" (a bit of a "no-no" in the web world). But they got the link slightly wrong, so it didn't work. I helpfully renamed a different photo from this site so their link now points to it. The result can be seen here. Beats looking at Mr. Wrestling II.
|Time: June 07 2003 at 20:52:15
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: If you are lookin' for a Beta Player
Comments: ...try your local Salvation Army store or a yard sale.
If you want a NEW one - try J&R Music in NYC - they still have them from time to time.
My brother in Wichita had several but don't know if any are for sale. Or
send the tape to me in NC and next time I am home - will try to make a vhs
or DV copy for you....Mike Ransom can filter any requests to
|Time: June 07 2003 at 09:06:58
Name: David Bagsby
Location: Lawrence KS
Comments: My mother-in-law, Sandy Sterling, used to work at Channel 23 and has some old "Creature Features" on Beta. I'll be looking out for a beta player on eBay and transfering them to the 21st century soon...(unless Mike has a beta...nope, MR).
These have a bunch of a young Jeanne Tripplehorn, Steve Pickle and afore
mentioned mother-in-law doing various walk-on's and voice overs.
|Time: June 06 2003 at 20:58:59
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Still temp workin' in DC...
Comments: Found some old TU Telenews film from the 70's and old KTUL films that I did not have on tape. The drawback - some has mag sound and the folks who are trasnfering it for FREE for me no longer have a mag sound heads on their telecine. Learned this after 90 min. of film prep on a tape splicer. Think I did find an old "Oertle's Weatherscope with Don Woods open/close" in b&w, plus another old Griffin's coffee spot....Mike Miller gave me a pristeen ABC union made 3/4" dub of the "Tapes of Wrath" from 1983 and I will make a few VHS dubs from it - including a new one for Mike. Amazing how old it is and it still draws folks...
|Time: June 06 2003 at 18:16:01
Name: David Batterson
Location: Palm Springs USA
Comments: I haven't been on here in a long time. Keeping busy at my Assoc. Ed. job ("Palm Springs Life" magazine). I don't do anything with TV or radio (except watch and listen!).
I enjoyed the posts about Leon Russell; he'll be performing at a casino here in September and I plan to go. I hope, like Carlos Santana, that he finally gets another hit and the real recognition he deserves. He's an awesome talent.
BTW, I saw the note from Dave Harmon; he was my neighbor years ago on 46th
St. N. in T-Town.
|Time: June 05 2003 at 18:25:43
Name: Si Hawk
Comments: Several years after leaving KTUL, Beth Rengel came to work at KJRH in the mid 1980's. I found Beth to be among the most professional and nicest people with whom I've worked. She's a talented and good person and didn't deserve the treatment she got at 8.
|Time: June 05 2003 at 02:47:30
Comments: Not to beat this to death or anything, but "Sea Hunt" on the Outdoor Life Network (TCI Channel 226) at 9 pm and midnight CST, Monday night-Thursday morning really looks good with these free Pulfrich 3D glasses. The underwater camerawork is constantly in motion which makes these glasses work great. It's like looking into a large aquarium. Caught a pre-Star Trek Leonard Nimoy and a teen-aged Beau Bridges on the last two shows. Next week: Larry Hagman guests.
|Time: June 05 2003 at 02:27:13
Name: Deric Davis
Location: Land Of Confusion
Comments: I don't see the pictures at the Cinema Tour website...
I had the same problem; the site's database is down for maintenance...you might try again later.
|Time: June 04 2003 at 22:28:07
Name: Daniel Wright
Location: Yakima Washington
Comments: I took the pictures of the OKC Continental that are on cinematour.com. I managed to get the one picture of the lobby by jamming the lens of my camera in a crack in the boards covering the missing lobby glass. All of the building's glass appears to be broken out. Other then that the place appears to be fairly sound. Lots of graffiti inside the outside looked almost freshly painted. Lots of peeling paint, but no water leakage that I could tell. It is also for sale. As for the address it is next to a Borders and the Founders Life Insurance Building. (the round one)
|Time: June 04 2003 at 22:30:05
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Background player in the media world...
Comments: Still doing vacation relief in DC - if you saw George Will on ESPN SportsCenter tonight I was his camera op/engineer - he is a charming guy. He was talking about Sammy Sosa's bat story.
If you see Entertainment Tonight on Thurs. - the footage of the Restore America event with Hillary Rodham Clinton - I fed out. Got a bag of video/CD swag from the contract producer for ET. Presume it was give-aways from the event's performers...Sam Donaldson was hilarious, but I imagine a lot of his bites to ET may not make it to air. He and wife Jan Smith were co-emcees. Also fed Sam Waterston/Dorothy Hamill soundbites. Restore America deals with historic preservation - Sen. Clinton gave kudos to Pres. Bush's wife on her work on this too.
But then again I also fed Spanish Hillary material on her book to TV Azteca in Mexico City and a Modell Foundation on IP - a newly recognized childhood virus.
The rest of the time - like many of you - I sat on my duff watching network TV between gigs...anything for a buck these days for moi....
Here is Mike's resume, also on the Bulletin Board.
|Time: June 04 2003 at 14:57:10
Name: Rich Lohman
Location: Waiting for Oilers ice to grow...
Comments: Danny...I don't remember Gary Shore's hell remark (which is ironic considering now he's quite the born again Christian), but I do remember Beth Rengel's bomb in the early 80s.
Not trying to drag anything up, but that was quite hilarious when it happened.
According to John Hamill, George Stewart resigned as Channel 8 news director over the manner in which Beth's incident was handled. Jim Reid was directing at the time. There had been a long series of frustrating technical problems that evening. Here is his account in Guestbook 49.
|Time: June 04 2003 at 05:27:18
Location: The Yellow Electric Pony at the old Safeway on N. Peoria
Comments: I have a funny little songbird that flew the coop to sing at Eureka Springs, Arkansas this summer (all them chickens better scoot on over). She is a borned Tulsan, raised in the burbs. If you would like to check out her website go to:
I'm interested to know the names of the best sound recording studios and who are the best sound recording engineers or techs around the Tulsa area. She sings about four octaves and is a coloratura soprano. Would like to get a demo made for her Christmas present if Santa will allow.
Re: Smokehouse Band
I remember the Smokehouse Band. Have been wondering what has become of the musicians. Used to go and hear them when they were playing in Tulsey and in the burbs.
Mike Richardson's younger brother Charlie worked at night at Channel 6 when
I knew them. His brother Pat was part of a two man musical comedy act that
played around Tulsa back then too.
|Time: June 04 2003 at 04:22:06
Name: Chuck Fullhat
Location: East and a little south of Confusion, a little ahead of senility and disorganization
Wasn't "Confusion Hill" in SW Mo, not too far from the Eureekee Spraings area?
I can remember pulling bumper stickers for Silver Dollar City, Meramac Caverns, and Confusion Hill off the rear and front bumpers of more than a couple of different models of cars, went there as a kid, and took the tribe there after I grew up, but I'll be darned it I can remember exactly where it was located.
Like a lot of Mo. and Ark. tourist "locations", they advertised extensively, mostly in print, and must have spent a fortune on bumper stickers through the years. I think it was a requirement that anybody leaving or entering the state have at least two or three from each of the various places that us "tourists" had stopped at, either that or face one of the state's finest at the border, and get our visas revoked for not having one on the car.
There were actually 2 attractions, as the webmaster pointed out. Jesse James had some connection to it, probably camped there or lived there a short time; there was an old log cabin there that they claimed he had lived in, and then the hill that was supposed to pull you up it when you put the car in neutral, but for some reason, station wagons loaded with kids seemed to neutralize or counteract the magnetic pull everytime we tried it. Spock has yet to email me a complete explanation of that one.
With a carload o' kids, you wouldn't need any danged hill to get corn-fused.
|Time: June 04 2003 at 04:04:49
Name: Chuck Fullhart
Location: Bishops, back booth
Jenk Jones was the editor, guru, and driving force behind "The Sentinel". Dave Jones continued his entertainment and review column, and ran a lot of the day to day operations. And there were a lot of familiar faces and names that formerly worked on The Trib there from time time, some working full time and others who had taken a different job still writing columns or contributing pieces.
The Sentinel was not unlike the old film stories you see where the editor sells subscriptions and space, covers the wedding and the football game and the city council meeting, and then works all night printing the paper so that he can help deliver it the next day to the various customers. Everyone did a little of everything, and most of us knew how since a lot of us had done a little of everything.
The bad part is that there is one less voice crying in the wilderness bringing people's attention to some problem, or sitting in the audience at various government meetings ready to hold somebody's feet to the fire because they are trying to get away with something, or just providing coverage of what happened.
The Observer seems to be filling a part of the gap that The Trib left behind when it folded, even it is still weekly.
Regardless of your politics, balance and another voice that has a slightly different or radically different opinion is still the best balance in the marketplace.
The King's Right Hand made reference to Brother Gaylord and his descendants.
The OKC market has been a one newspaper town, with some minor variations,
for well over 80 some odd years now, and many residents of the area have
never been that thrilled with the fact. But there is an undeniable fact that
a strong leadership in the media, even there isn't a great deal of competition,
can be a great economic and moral force in building and keeping a city moral,
modern, and progressive, and can make life very unpleasant for various government
officials who may try to get away with something, and get called on the
|Time: June 03 2003 at 19:43:15
Comments: A bit off-subject, but does anyone remember ??Confusion Hill?? (with the Jesse James Museum) in Missouri? I only find one reference to it (as being defunct) on the internet.
I think it was similar to Casa Magnetica at Six Flags (also defunct as
of 2001). They were special places where the laws of physics were distorted.
Kirk Demarais' Secret Fun
Spot site has a link to a similar Mystery Spot in California.
|Time: June 03
2003 at 18:17:08
Name: Lee Woodward
Comments: About the FCC ruling on multiple media ownership in local markets...
WKY in Oklahoma City used to be owned by the Gaylords (also owners of The Daily Oklahoman) as did WBAP in Fort Worth by Amon Carter (owner of The Star Telegram.) In both these instances, it was not good.
The Daily Oklahoman is arch conservative and that was the tack at WKY. Some people refer to it (the newspaper) as "The Daily Disappointment." In Fort Worth it was much the same.
I worked at WBAP during that time and I can say also that the newspaper staff did not consider the TV news people in the same league and delighted in their gaffes.
I think the Gaylords had a firm hand on what was aired at WKY AM-FM-TV as opposed to Amon Carter's influence at WBAP. I just have an uneasy feeling about the future of diverse opinion if someone has forty-five percent share of the nation's attention.
On the other hand, I have seen the Tulsa World rail against some candidate
or cause and come up sucking wind, so.......what's Mother to do?
|Time: June 03 2003 at 17:13:43
Name: Chuck Fullhart
Location: Still sitting at the Pig Stand waiting for the order
Mike is right.
The Joint Operating Agreement between The World and The Tribune was started in 1942, and was dissolved in 1992 when it expired, and was one of something like 14 or so in the nation that was authorized allowed by the Federal Trade Commission, and each JOA had to be passed by Congress.
Anybody that worked for either paper on the editorial staff knew who they worked for; there was never any doubt of that. The JOA was purely an economic tool that allowed more a more efficient means of printing the papers, as well as providing a good combo buy for advertisers, combining credit and accounting procedures, the morgue, and other areas of support.
Even though both editorial staffs were in the same building just a couple of floors apart, they might as well have been across town from each other. The Lorton family owned, and still owns The World, and the Jones family owned The Tribune.
If I remember correctly, the Tribune Foundation is still in operation, and supporting many charitable and other community programs, even some 10 years after the paper folded.
The Jones took a shot at producing a weekly paper after The Tribune folded, which was "The Tulsa Sentinel", but it unfortunately went the way of many other good papers.
If I recall correctly, Jenk Jones, Jr. was editor of the short-lived Sentinel.
|Time: June 03 2003 at 13:36:07
Comments: "Sea Hunt", a 1957-1961 syndicated TV series starring Lloyd Bridges, was a childhood obsession (as my story on the Pop Bottles page shows).
I am happy to report that "Sea Hunt" can now be seen on the Outdoor Life
Network (TCI Channel 226) at 9 pm and midnight CST, Monday-Thursday. I emailed
this bulletin to Doug Dodd, another avid sport diver whose interest was
originally sparked by "Sea Hunt".
|Time: June 03 2003 at 12:54:32
Name: Danny Meyers
Location: Never left Tulsa in my mind, actually...
Comments: Does anybody remember the time Gary Shore got in trouble for saying "hell" on the air? It was when he was brand new to KTEW. He was describing an approaching front or something like that and was really warming (pun intended!) to his subject. He said something like "this front just has a hell of a lot of energy to it." I remember thinking "man is he going to hear about that one!"
Sure enough, the locals were enraged. The next day in the "Call the Editor" section of the paper, folks were complaining about the indecency of Gary Shore's remark and the general decline of Western civilization which it bespoke. Gary apologized on the air the next night and life went on. Just wondering if anyone else remembers that.
Leon Russell plays here in St Louis occasionally. I haven't caught his show
but friends who have say he is in wonderful form.
|Time: June 03 2003 at 12:34:26
Name: Jim Ruddle
Location: Rye, NY
Comments: Re the FCC:
As Joe Liebling said: "The only way you get a free press is to own one."
True...this site is a good example of how the internet effectively makes a free press available to everyone. I hope we don't look back in 20 years and call these the good old days.
|Time: June 03 2003 at 12:07:20
Name: Colin Powell
Comments: Michael....get back to work!
|Time: June 03 2003 at 08:02:45
Name: David Bagsby
Location: Lawrence KS
Comments: So I can't help but think, in the light of the new FCC legislation, of the old days in Tulsa when there were 2 separate 'but equal' newspapers (World/Tribune) owned by the same guy. Conflict of interest/ethics seem to an old game...just ask Halliburton.
The Tulsa Tribune ceased publication in late 1992 when its joint operating agreement with the Tulsa World ended. The Tribune's circulation had been dropping, like many evening newspapers around the country. I believe the two newspapers were independent with respect to management and editorial content.
|Time: June 02 2003 at 20:23:23
Name: Michael Powell (head of the FCC, graciously taking time out of his busy schedule to pay us a visit)
Location: Washington, D.C.
Comments: So what TV/newspaper combos will we see in Tulsa and Oklahoma City?
|Time: June 02 2003 at 11:32:06
Comments: "Smokehouse Band" for many years was at Captain's Cabin on 41st & Memorial. I think it originated as the band "Firehouse Five" and gradually replaced the original Firemen/Players with local musicians. Johnny Johnson was the main frontman, Frank McPeters was drummer, Mike Richardson played fiddle. Also as the main act was Dr. Richard DeLafonte, a hypnotist, who would get people to do & say things that they normally wouldn't, or shouldn't. On breaks the group would often cross the street to visit the "Caravan Band" with many of "Bob Wills" old musicians. Thinking of that, they musta known how legendary they were, and time would come when they were no longer alive!
I'll bet that was Frank McPeters, Jr.; my band director at Lewis and Clark junior high was also Frank McPeters, a trombone player (and a well-liked teacher).
|Time: June 02 2003 at 08:10:49
Comments: It's my opinion that while some people may not have heard of Leon Russell, they've surely heard his music.
If you listen to a classic rock station long enough, it's inevitable that they will play "Tightrope" at some point.
Wasn't "Tightrope" used in a SW Bell commercial a few years ago? I think as it was playing, there was a busy signal in the background, and a squirrel running across a wire. Maybe I'm losing it.
My personal favorite Leon album was/is "Leon Russell and the Shelter People". It was burned into my brain by a friend's 8-track, but I had my own copy. This is the music Leon played at Oiler Park on June 23, 1971, which was my first rock concert. His opening act, Freddie King, was also a revelation with that fat blues sound coming out of his orange Gibson ES-335 (I clearly remember the orange!) My actual ticket is in the photo.
|Time: June 01 2003 at 23:28:29
Name: Lee Woodward
Comments: In light of the capture of the Atlanta Olympic bomber I offer this bagatelle.
"Rudolph the Fed hosed reigned dear!"
|Time: June 01 2003 at 19:50:57
Name: Dave Harmon
Location: Torrance, Ca.
Comments: Well said Wilhelm!
I first became aware of Russell Bridges in 56' when he was gigging with David Gates at kiddie gigs such as a dance at Wilson Jr. High School. I attended that school from 55' through 57'. I went to a dance in the outback enclosed basketball court that had just been built and I spent the whole night leaning on the piano watching Gates mostly because I had just begun to play guitar.
I didn't realize until 40 years later that Russell Bridges had changed his name to Leon Russell.
A couple of years ago I snuck in that basketball court and the place was very well kept.
Does anyone remember the name of the drummer that played with Gates & Russell in those days?
Or how about this one.....how many of you old geezers like me still have a copy of "Lovin' at Night" by Gates & Bridges? Man....that was a looong time ago.
There is just something about Tulsa that keeps dragging me back....dragging me back.
On this site, here is a review of David Gates' free concert (with photo) last year at Utica Square.
|Time: June 01 2003 at 18:56:40
Comments: Thank you, Mr. Murg, for even the slightest mention of Al Jolson (from whom all blessings flow). And Coltrane....and Miles Davis. Life is good.
|Time: June 01 2003 at 17:18:39
Name: Deric Davis
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Comments: Anyone know or remember a band called "The Smokehouse Band", back when I was young (early 80's, late 70's) my parents were fans of this local band and would go out to hear them play. I think they were a fairly popular local band, I know they even had records pressed because we have a single for a song called "Fire Up My Ford".
|Time: June 01 2003 at 16:57:25
Name: Wilhelm Murg
Location: Obviously on a short vacation, otherwise I wouldn't have time to throw in my 2 cents every other hour this weekend
The staff I worked at at Infinity Press was mostly around their late-20s/early 30s; they knew who Leon Russell was, more or less, they just didn't really listen to that kind of music (Infinity was industrial/ electronic oriented). At Outline Magazine most of the staff are in their mid-20s; most of them had no idea that there was such a person as Leon Russell. I also had to explain Jethro Tull (everyone was looking forward to meeting "Jethro") Grand Funk Railroad (becuase of "Funk" most of them thought is was a George Clinton-type band), and Arlo Guthrie (who did not write "This Land is Your Land.") They all knew who Joan Baez was, but no one could name a single song by her. Todd Rundgren, John Prine, Leo Kottke,you name it; "Who?" When they hear one of us talking about Leon it must sound like our grandfathers talking about Al Jolson.
There is music they know from that era; Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, The Sex Pistols, The Beatles, Hendrix, The Grateful Dead, G.G. Allin, Funkadelic etc. If you think about this small list, there are really three categories; bands that are so big you can't get around them (like the Beatles,) bands that are legendary in the underground (the Sex Pistols) and bands that were either still going in the 1980s (Pink Floyd) or bands where the leader achieved success into the 1980s (Clinton of Funkadelic, or Ozzy from Black Sabbath).
Leon Russell's early albums (up to and including "Carney") are brilliant and he still produced some great music through "Will O' the Wisp," but after that there weren't any hits and critical acclaim also dried up (a lot of people don't pay attention to critics, but anyone interested in digging deeping into music from the past usually turns to guides either published, like Rolling Stone's tomes, or on online, like at the All Music Guide). Leon also seemed to fall off the face of the earth for about 20 years; he still released albums but with very little support.
When you think of the ungodly amount of records released by 1980, then triple it for the amount that has come out since then, young people today are confronted with an ocean of music. I've been fascinated with all of this for 30 years and I am still exploring (I finally heard Kooper/Bloomfield's classic "Super Sessions" a few weeks ago, and I'm just starting to explore Miles Davis' period between John Coltrane and Herbie Hancock). Another factor is the radio; it has been programmed to the point that you can not get a grasp of music history through the medium. Leon is a perfect example; his classics are seldom, if ever, played on the radio (when was the last time you heard "Home Sweet Oklahoma," "Shootout on the Plantation," or "Lady Blue" over the air?) The ONLY Leon song that has any kind of rotation is "Tightrope." The Carpenter's recording of "Superstar" is still in heavy rotation, but most people don't realize Leon co-wrote it, and "This Masquerade" has been rerecorded a few times.
Within pop culture it's all about product recognition. For all his brilliant session work that helped to shape pop and rock music (the man would be remembered as a master arranger even if he had stopped at "River Deep / Mountain High") only the historians pay that much attention to such "trivia." Leon made a name for himself before the Beatles association, but once he got in with George Harrison, he became more famous. That period of music simply imploded. The star jams that produced those albums by Harrison, Starr, Lennon, Delaney & Bonnie, Keith Moon, Leon and Joe Cocker (did the late Jesse Ed Davis play guitar on all of those records?) went from a being dream team sessions to absolute indulgence, as many of the performers were indulging heavily into more than just music at the time. Punk was a reaction to such bloated star power and classic rock turned to the faceless session bands (like Boston). Leon's crowd fell out of fashion and nome of them seemed to bother to reinvent themselves (as oppose to say David Bowie, Frank Zappa, Leonard Cohen, Neil Young, or even Miles Davis in jazz). In the process they lost their mainstream audience (would anyone care about the new George Harrison album if he were still alive? The last time he had a real hit was his tribute to John Lennon in the 1980s!)
So don't blame the young for not knowing about Leon Russell - today Leon is very respected in circles that know about music, but in the world of contemporary radio he is a "one-hit wonder" (the same could be said about Bo Diddley, who is a god in my book, but the oldies stations only have one of his songs, "Bo Diddley," in rotation). The great hope is that between Internet radio and satellite music stations a broader perspective of music history will get out there.
So that's a long winded way of simply saying "We're old!"
|Time: June 01 2003 at 14:30:55
Name: Mike Miller
Location: Vienna, VA
Comments: To Deric Davis: Its not an age thing. Youve been listening to Leons music all your life. You just didnt realize it.
|Time: June 01 2003 at 13:48:30
Name: Deric Davis
Comments: I don't know who Leon Russell is, either. I have never heard of him, and after reading his bio, I still don't know who he is. Maybe it is an age thing...
KTUL does not show Jimmy Kimmel, they show an hour of Frasier, and then Nightline. Oddly enough, our WB affiliate KWBT 19 plays Jimmy Kimmel around 11:00 PM, complete with the ABC logo in the corner.
Leon was an internationally-known rock star in the early 70s, pals with the likes of George Harrison (a former Beatle) and Eric Clapton (one of the top rock guitarists of the period), who often visited Leon in Tulsa. He grew up here, and attended Rogers High School. He lived in Midtown Tulsa and at Grand Lake during his superstar years, and was often spotted around T-town. When he made a surprise appearance on Mazeppa's show, it was a very big deal!
|Time: June 01 2003 at 12:37:23
Comments: Some of the topics discussed in the previous Guestbook were Pig Stands (the first drive-in restaurants in the country), Channel 2, Bob Hope, a new Gary/Jake Busey reality show...
Those, and more in the just-archived Guestbook