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July 26 2009 at 11:03:16
Name: Webmaster
Topic: Happy birthday

Thank you, one and all.

We went out to the Admiral Twin Drive-In last night to see the new Harry Potter. The drive-in checklist came in handy as usual. It was helpful to apply those blue ice packs to the noggin.

While on my unsuccessful quest for a Twin T-shirt, I chatted with Blake Smith, VP of Select Cinemas. He said they are planning a big celebration of the Twin's 60th season next year, so maybe that will be my year.

July 25 2009 at 23:39:44
Name: Rose Bowl Bunker Commander
Topic: Brookside: "In" vs. "On"
: I've lived in Tulsey at least part of every decade beginning with 1950s, and can't recall ever having heard "ON Brookside". Running with a bad crowd, I reckon.

Also lived in both Southern Tier of New York state and in New York City, and never heard of living "ON New York".

One lives ON planet Earth, but IN Oklahoma. Likewise: IN Brookside, but ON 35th Place.

Historical note just to throw a Spaniard in the works: in the 19th century, white Dixieites said they lived "AT the South". But then, they didn't know proper usage of sheets, either.

Happy Birthday, Comrade Webmeister!

July 25 2009 at 21:42:42
Name: David Bagsby
Topic: Salutations
: Mike
Happy Birthday! Just got my internet set up here in Kansas City so now to get caught up on the Guest Blog

July 25 2009 at 18:14:13
Name: over in Ranch Acres
Topic: Nelson's
Comments: A reminder that Nelson's Ranch House is going strong over on Third Street.

Had lunch on Friday, chicken fry, chocolate pie. Old downtowners like me will recognize a lot of faces, the tip glasses are at the register, and when I asked about the Roundup Boys, I was sent back to the "Dining Room".

July 25 2009 at 17:56:48
Name: Scott Linder
Topic: Happy Birthday to Mike!!
: Yes, Happy Birthday to you, Mike. So you're 39 now, right?

After you enjoy that nice meal at Nelson's please enjoy a complimentary Sunday lunch at Pennington's Drive In tomorrow. I might suggest the fried shrimp with one of those nice fresh rolls and some black-bottom pie for dessert.

July 25 2009 at 14:13:34
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: Toast to our webmeister!
: Happy Natal Day, Mike Ransom!

Go eat some chicken fried steak at Nelson's on me!

July 25 2009 at 10:36:45
Name: Gary ChewGary Chew
Topic: Getting Older
Email: Northeast of Eden
Comments: HBD 2 U
HBD dear Michael

Del in Cal

July 25 2009 at 03:00:17
Name: John K. Young
Topic: Happy Birthday
Email: johnk662561atyahoodotcom
Comments: Just wanted to wish our webmaster here a Happy Birthday! Hope you have a great one, Mike! Now that you're "legal" you can enjoy some of that homemade "Kickapoo Joy Juice" that we used to use to boost our octane and clean the carbon out of our engines at the same time! :)

Yeah, it makes you look like you're foggin' for mosquitoes, but if you knock back a couple of shots first, you find all that white smoke doesn't bother you at all! :)

July 24 2009 at 22:02:21
Name: Scooter Segraves todayScooter Segraves
Topic: In/On Brookside
Email: gb3kudzu at diamondcity dot net
Comments: Even this many years and miles away from it, can't begin to wrap my mind around "on Brookside." That would be OK, were Brookside a street. But to me, even as a shallow, callow freshman at TU in 1958, "Brookside" was an area of town -- the kind of place one would definitely be IN, were one so fortunate. All these years later, still is. (Of course, "ON the restless ribbon" would be quite another thing.)

July 24 2009 at 20:37:52
Name: over in Ranch Acres
Topic: In or On?
: Been here in since '72 and seem to use in and on Brookside interchangeably.

However, beyond 71st is always "outsouth" (all one word).

July 24 2009 at 19:28:19
Name: Gaye Brown Ransom
Topic: Brookside
Email: gaye@gayebrown.com
Comments: I lived IN Brookside as a little girl and went to Holmes Elementary (now the Tulsa Ballet Center for Dance Education) IN Brookside at 45th and Peoria. Moved around then for years, then moved back to Tulsa and rented an apartment ON Riverside IN Brookside then bought IN Brookside on 37th Place. Then your webmaster Mike and I married and I moved OUT of Brookside (boo hoo).

I was on the board of the Brookside Neighborhood Association for several years and it is considered 31st to I-44 and Riverside Drive to Lewis (many think it's just to Utica). I love the neighborhood. It's fun, walkable and always active, except ON Sundays.

Happy Birthday Mike! (for tomorrow)

July 24 2009 at 17:33:38
Name: Scott Linder
Topic: Brookside silliness
Comments: The Brook Theatre, Lewis Meyer's Book Store, Tex Meyer's Deli, KVOO Broadcast Center, Claude's Hamburgers, Pennington's Drive-In, etc. were ON Peoria, but they were all IN Brookside, along with my house when I lived in Tulsa.

The Brookside area is known and understood by any REAL Tulsan. Any others are suspect.

July 24 2009 at 14:53:08
Name: Mike Miller todayMike Miller
Topic: The "IN" Crowd
: Do people also say, "I live ON Tulsa? Or, I live ON Oklahoma?

I know I'm not cool because I used to live IN Brookside. Are you sure somebody's not putting you "ON?"

Maybe the "ON" usage is prompted by the "SIDE" of Brookside, as in "on the sunny side of the street". Or maybe it's that Brooksiders' neighbors to the west live ON Riverside Drive.

And perhaps the "IN" usage is shorthand for "in the Brookside area".

July 24 2009 at 01:57:09
Name: Webmaster
Topic: Skyline Park film

Mike Lins sent this video and said:

"I believe this is Skyline Park, or at least my father does. My grandmother is the one wearing the red shirt in the video."

July 23 2009 at 23:47:39
Name: Suzanne Spears
Topic: "IN" vs "ON" Brookside
Email: charlerock at aol dot com
Comments: Just recently discovered TTM and I love it. I've spent way too many hours lost in nostalgiaville. Have learned much but also have many corrections to make...later.

For now I am finally driven to add an old-timer's opinion to the "in/on" question. I've lived IN Brookside since 1952 and I had never heard it referred to as ON Brookside until some nouveau pseudo yuppie resident from back East somewhere decided that it sounded cooler to say ON Brookside. Someone in an earlier blog presented a very sensible argument as to why IN is correct and ON isn't.

So there...I feel better now. Thanks.

Welcome, Suzanne, and we'll be looking for those corrections.

Searching TTM for both 'ON Brookside' and 'IN Brookside', 26 pages have it ON, 29 have it IN. I seem to be a serial "ON" offender myself.

July 22 2009 at 19:33:44
Name: Webmaster
Topic: Free walk-in movies

Free film and music events held on the first Wednesday evening of each month through October.

Details in GTRNews: Downtown Tulsa Cine Series Sponsored by Crowne Plaza

July 22 2009 at 17:39:48
Name: John K. Young
Topic: Walter Cronkite
Email: johnk662561atyahoodotcom
Comments: In his book, A Reporter's Life, Cronkite talks about the time his Telegraph Feed went down during a baseball broadcast he was "recreating" for his WKY listeners. He made the guy at bat fight off an ungodly number of foul balls before they could get the "live" Telegraph Feed back up.

That story alone is almost worth the purchase price of the book, IMO. Also...I didn't know until I read his book that he and his mother spent a short time living in Sapulpa when his father was serving in The Great War (WWI).

July 20 2009 at 23:05:22
Name: Gary ChewGary Chew
Topic: More On Cronkite
Comments: Reading Hartz and Ruddle here on this site and all the other deserving praise that's been heaped on Walter from ever quarter made me think while I was in the kitchen a minute ago that maybe what Cronkite, in his passing, has brought many, especially folks long of tooth, some Common Ground to stand on again. Doesn't it feel good? I'd bet a dollar Mr.Cronkite would feel good about that notion.

Lots of good news people hail from Oklahoma or have done time in the Sooner State. I remember watching one of them on WKY when I was still in high school up in Kay County, Oklahoma. His name was Frank McGee. And the list goes on.

Good Day!

July 20 2009 at 19:04:49
Name: Jim Ruddle at WGN in 1965Jim Ruddle
Topic: Cronkite
Comments: Jim Hartz tells a story that pretty much sums up what most of us felt about the guy.

I had few encounters with him but one, especially, was memorable.

I had sailed to the Bahamas and was moored in Hopetown. My partner and I were heading back to the boat from some mission on shore when coming up the trail was the familiar figure of Walter Cronkite.

He didn't know me, but I was obviously a boater--maybe it's the odor--and he, of course, had sailed for years. We struck up a conversation which eventually got around to his asking what I did and I had to admit that I had been a news broadcaster, far, far down the ladder from him.

So how did he react? He invited me and the lady to come for drinks on his boat that evening.

When we got there, Walter and his wife, Betsy, were there, as was Andy Rooney and his wife.
Walter had a crew that sailed his boat to various destinations he wanted to visit, then he'd fly to wherever that was, join them, and do a little sailing of his own. The crew, a young couple, also served as cook and waitress.

We had a few sundowners and the talk rolled along. Rooney amazed me by telling us that he got his start in communications by writing dialogue for the old Red Ryder comic strip. ("You betchum, Red Ryder.")

Cronkite and I started talking about books for boys that we had read when younger--Treasure Island, Kidnapped, Huck, of course, and then we found a mutual interest that none of the others knew of: The Mark Tidd stories of Clarence Budington Kelland. Mark was a fat kid who stuttered, but who was brilliant in a rather sloppy way.

We overstayed our invitation, I'm sure. The waitress-crew kept hauling hors d'oeuvres around instead of being able to serve a regular dinner.

It was a fun evening, totally relaxed and natural, and That's The Way He Was.

July 20 2009 at 13:14:37
Name: Terri
Topic: Itch In Time
: Dana - After a disappointing morning of no McCartney tickets, wasting a vacation day for no McCartney tickets, and general Monday surliness, thanks for the Merrie Melodies respite. This has to be one of my all-time favorite cartoons too, along with the gypsy flea family cartoon. Thanks for turning my frown upside down!

July 20 2009 at 12:37:14
Name: Erick
Topic: Nelson's Ranch House
Comments: Nelson's will be open until 3 am on Friday nights? Wish I knew that this past Friday night when I opted for Denny's. What a sad shell of its former self that restaurant is.

July 19 2009 at 23:41:19
Name: Jim Hartz Jim Hartz via email to webmaster
Topic: Walter Cronkite in Oklahoma
Comments: I enjoyed the Tulsa World's brief article on Walter Cronkite's early years in Oklahoma broadcasting. I can add a few details to one of the anecdotes which Walter recounted in his book. It was the story of his very first broadcast, which was aired on WKY in Oklahoma City.

The event was a University of Oklahoma/University of Tulsa football game played at Skelly Stadium in Tulsa. Walter and his color man, Perry Ward, a name familiar to Oklahomans of a certain age, had rigged up a spotting board with lights and switches they thought would help them keep track of which players were on the field. Walter described it as a Rube Goldberg device that never worked properly and was responsible for contributing to a disastrous first broadcast. Most of the time neither he nor Perry knew who was in the game. And, he said, his play-by-play reflected that.

(Perry Ward, perhaps best known to Tulsa TV viewers as the spokesman for Safeway, is the guy being given the "horns" in this 1955 Oiler Park Radio-TV Night photo...webmaster)

Walter told me he was convinced that his broadcasting career started and ended on the same day. After the game he sat down on the top row of Skelly Stadium and nearly wept. The gods were smiling, though, and the debacle was written off as first broadcast jitters. Walter Cronkite survived the calamity and went on to become the most famous and trusted newscaster in America. That was 1937.

He related all this to me, laughingly, during an airplane trip exactly twenty years ago. We were on our way from New York to Houston where he was the keynote speaker at a big 20th anniversary celebration of the moon landings. The featured guests at the NASA event were Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins, the three astronauts from Apollo 11. I was honored to be the emcee for the evening.

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Jim Hartz and Walter Cronkite at the 20th anniversary celebration of the moon landing.

Although Walter spent the most illustrious years of his career at CBS News he was close friends with many who worked at other networks, and other venues. He lived a full, rich life, and had no enemies that I know of.

Cronkite was the face and voice of space coverage at CBS. Jim Hartz covered NASA at NBC.

SomaFM has set up a new Internet radio channel: Mission Control, ambient electronica with live NASA audio. It currently features the 40-year anniversary Apollo 11 rebroadcast, exactly the way it was back in 1969, only now with a moody soundtrack. It works.

SomaFM commercial free internet radio

July 19 2009 at 20:10:40
Name: Jim Ruddle
Topic: You Guessed It
Comments: It worked, naturally.

Webmaster: The letters and numerals are hard to distinguish sometimes. I make mistakes on the "Captchas" myself, but it beats getting auto-spammed.

We don't want to lose any of your comments. One way to avoid grief is to select all your text then right-click and copy it before submitting. If anything goes wrong, you won't have lost all your typing.

July 19 2009 at 20:08:37
Name: Jim Ruddle
Topic: Coded characters
Comments: Webmaster, O, Webmaster. Those damned coded characters required for submission of a posting simply don't work for me. I type them, even using a magnifying glass on occasion to assure correctness, but then when I try to submit the item I'm informed that I've entered the wrong thing.

I shall try again with this and if it doesn't work, I'll just have to bow out.

July 19 2009 at 13:03:29
Name: Webmaster
Topic: Backburner

Sorry I've had the site somewhat on the backburner recently. Thanks to everyone for keeping things moving.

One of the reasons I've been preoccupied: I'm in the new program described in this story in today's Tulsa World: "TCC offers classes to redevelop tech skills ". I've known Jan LeMoine, mentioned in the article, since junior high school. She and her brother Dana are TTM contributors.

July 18 2009 at 20:17:44
Name: Dave
Topic: Cronkite in OKC
Comments: The Cronkite national obits mainly report his time living and working in Kansas City and Houston before he made the jump to United Press and went overseas to become a war correspondent.

The World today has an Oklahoman article about the year he spent at WKY as the voice of the OU football Sooners.

I just learned that Douglas Edwards, Cronkite's predecessor at CBS and America's first network TV news anchor, was born in Ada, Oklahoma.

July 18 2009 at 18:24:30
Name: Wilhelm Murg
Topic: Uncle Walter's Death
Email: wilhelmurg at Yahoo dot com
Comments: The sad thing in all of this is that while everyone wants to pay homage to Cronkite, no one is talking about doing what he taught us, which is to go back to fact-driven news. I finally gave up on cable news all together when it became a bunch of jerks in neckties giving their opinions. Who are these people and why should I care about their opinions? I miss the old CNN with the motto "Give us 15 minutes and we'll give you the world." Now it takes them 15 minutes just to show pictures of Nancy Grace's brats with slow music playing behind it - and why am I supposed to care about this psycho's railing against due process of the law?

The sad thing about all this commentary is that these people seem to think they are in the mainstream, but more often than not, they don't even seem to comprehend the issues they are commenting on. I remember a Mike Galonos commentary where he bragged that he only let his children watch sporting events and reality TV - isn't that a well rounded diet of entertainment? Reality television is the most contrived and exploitative garbage I've ever seen - a series of police chases, Flavor Flav (who used to be relevant) picking a new love interest, bland singers, and people having nervous breakdowns on an island somewhere.

Can anyone imagine Cronkite speaking out against Chairman Mao during the Nixon visit, or demanding the execution of Charles Manson before there was even a verdict in the case, or criticizing President Carter during the Iranian hostage crisis?

Perhaps the ultimate example of contemporary news hypocrisy is how Michael Jackson was raised to sainthood after his death by the same people that did everything they could to demonize him while he was alive.

News was once something you could trust, now that it's all based on focus group opinion, it's not even worth watching. Cronkite's death is just a blazing reminder of how far we are from real news these days.

Well said, sir.

July 18 2009 at 13:56:06
Name: Scott Linder
Topic: Cronkite and JFK
Comments: I clearly remember watching Walter Cronkite report the death of JFK. I was a ninth-grader at Wilson Junior High School at the time, and Principal John Elstner announced on the intercom that the President had been shot in Dallas and then placed the microphone next to the speaker on a television in the school office tuned to KOTV. The entire school fell silent as we listed to the broadcast.

School was dismissed early and my Dad picked me up, having left work early. Mom, Dad and I watched the CBS broadcast on our monochrome Chanellaire console television as Mr. Cronkite delivered the news of his death. I remember my Mom saying "Oh, no...".

Of course, that clip of Cronkite has been repeated many times, but it had special impact on those of us who saw it live. I'll never forget it.

July 18 2009 at 01:05:45
Name: Gary ChewGary Chew
Topic: Walter
Email: Northeast of Eden
Comments: One of the reasons I thought working at KOTV was so cool is that I could listen to Walter Cronkite on FM in my car driving home every day. The picture wasn't too sharp, but the voice and news were right on.

A great standard in professional journalism: That's the way Walter was.

RIP, Mr. Cronkite. Your influence is needed today.

July 17 2009 at 22:43:58
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: CBS Network Cronkite Tribute
Comments: WBBM-TV in Chicago says at 6pm CDST Sunday night.

About 8 minutes of their Friday 10pm News was Cronkite stuff. Also had some interviews with Chicago current and retired staff who had worked with Cronkite in NYC and L.A. All still in awe of the man.

July 17 2009 at 20:23:04
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: CBS in Tulsa
Comments: In my days at 6, it was Eric Engberg as the Dallas bureau pro from the Tiffany network sent in to do stories.

I, too, am trying to remember Rex Daugherty's CBS story.

I probably spent more time with Charlie Murphy, the ABC guy from Dallas when in Amarillo and OKC. He was flew in on the red-eye and was red-eyed from drinking his "breakfast".


As my friend, Ron Stahl, wrote from OKC tonight. He cried when Cronkite announced Kennedy's death; he may have to cry for Uncle Walter tonight.

Just got off the phone with Jack Hobson, out in Hays, KS tonight. He's on the road back to Tulsa. We agreed that WALTER CRONKITE will always be our hero and BEST NEWSMAN of our generation.

We are betting CBS will do "a night of tribute" for him in the next 48-72 hours.

July 17 2009 at 20:10:42
Name: John HillisJohn Hillis
Topic: Cronkite
: To anyone who became aware of media after Cronkite retired in 1981, the fuss over his death may be a little mysterious. But in his day, he was the most prominent anchorman when the choice of national TV news was 3 networks (or, as was often said about the puny ABC, 2 1/2 networks).

For CBS affiliates like KOTV, getting your news film on Cronkite was big ups; getting a package on was ne plus ultra. The one I remember was something Rex Daugherty did, the waves of time has washed the subject off the beach of my brain, but I remember vividly the announcer v/o running down the correspondent reports as they did every night on Cronkite: "Dan Rather at the White House, Tom Fenton in Paris, Bruce Dunning and Tokyo" and ending with "and Rex Daugherty in Tulsa, Oklahoma." In a pre-CNN world where the news was 30 minutes a night, to get a minute and a half of it was a big deal. It also meant the local reporter's spot had passed the rigorous vetting of a magnificent group of producers and editors at CBS News in New York as well as the noted tendency of Cronkite to require a large amount of on-camera time in the newscast.

The CBS Dallas crew, and bureau chief Travis Linn showed up fairly frequently at KOTV, four or five times a year, to feed on one story or another. I don't remember the reporters who were regulars, Bruchas probably does, as I think he directed a lot of the feeds to New York.

I don't know if it's well known or not, but the founders of CNN basically offered the entire store to Cronkite if he'd jump. It would be "Walter Cronkite Cable News Network," and the stature would have been worth it. Cronkite, out of loyalty to Paley and CBS or because he didn't want to get involved with a bunch of crazy people who believed you could do TV news all day and all night, stayed where he was.

July 17 2009 at 19:37:56
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: We have lost "Uncle Walter"
: Flash - Extra...

We knew that he was frail, but...

July 17 2009 at 17:16:55
Name: Webmaster
Topic: The Brook

Today, Tulsa Gal is Remembering The Brook Theatre with the help of an "Eddie and the Ecclectics" photo supplied by David Bagsby.

July 17 2009 at 16:07:22
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: Terry Young
Comments: Where did former TV journo and mayor, Terry Young, end up at?

July 17 2009 at 00:42:32
Name: Dana LeMoine
Topic: "An Itch in Time"
: Mike's commercial he posted below reminded me of one of my favorite cartoons. Specifically, at the 7:00 mark!

July 16 2009 at 22:11:21
Name: M Terry
Topic: Mayoral Candidates
Email: M Terry at Cox dot Net
Comments: I believe that at one time the incumbent Tulsa County sheriff was running for re-election and he was opposed by several candidates with law enforcement experience along with Mr. Accountability Burns.

It seems as though the state legislature had passed a law that required candiates meet certain educational qualifications. For some strange reason Mr. Burns was the only candidate who met the requirements other than the incumbent.

July 15 2009 at 15:50:07
Name: Webmaster
Topic: Mayoral candidates

Tulsa mayoral candidates this time include perennials Paul Tay, Prophet Kelly Clark, and Accountability Burns.

July 14 2009 at 12:00:39
Name: Webmaster
Topic: Toby

This is my favorite commercial on the air. It's so sincere.

July 14 2009 at 11:56:52
Name: Tulsa Area Music Archives
Topic: TAMA Volume 1 Podcast now available
Email: info at preservemusic.org
Comments: Hear music directly from the vaults of the Tulsa Area Music Archives, preserving Tulsa's music history!

Meticulously researched from documents obtained directly from the L.A. Musicians Union in Hollywood, California, Volume One is a full hour of songs from Leon's session days, and will focus on Leon's extensive body of L.A. session work from the Sixties, where he established himself as one of the most highly sought after session players in the business.


July 12 2009 at 13:38:23
Name: Lani B Giese
Topic: re: it's Sunday and thinkin' 'bout Tulsa
Email: im4croozzznnnn the road
Comments: First of all, I just finished listening to "Oklahoma Rock N Roll" w/ Mr Steve Ripley... it wasn't long enuff!! A big thanks to Steve and everyone involved for the history, the memories and the trivia of which only guys like you can pass on!! You can count on me being there next week, and as you can say...family IS what matters!

Second, am I the only one interested in, or have reference to, the huge Doenges Brothers Ford history in Tulsa's past? I have been hoping there would be info about their original location downtown, on Elgin. That's where I heard my Dad, Jesse Brown, say it was at...he was one of the mechanics there till '59 when he left to start his Jesse's DX Station at 11th/Richmond. I have a Doenges Ford crew picture from 1955 if anyone is interested, or better yet have a dad, brother or uncle who worked there at that time. I have a few names, but about 50% of the names escaped Dad's memory before we ran onto the picture and labeled it with names.

I hope someone can shed some light on their time downtown. Dad did a short stint back there in the 70s managing the Truck Division, but his years of being self-employed had spoiled him, and taking orders was never his can of soda...so they parted ways again.

Stay cool ya' all, it's pretty warm 95° over here in the deserts of New Mexico; but our humidity is oh, a whopping 33%. Yea, it's a dry heat.

July 11 2009 at 15:37:29
Name: Scott Linder
Topic: Nelson's Buffeteria re-born?
: So has anyone tried Nelson's Ranch House on 3rd, across from Leon Russell's church studio? Owner Nelson Rogers, grandson of Nelson Buffeteria's founder, promised the same menu and all that good food we loved at the old downtown location.

Here's a 7/7/2009 Tulsa World article about Nelson's Ranch House.

July 11 2009 at 12:16:42
Name: Webmaster
Topic: It's Greek to me

You may have noticed yesterday that the current GroupBlog wasn't working. The host in Greece was doing some maintenance, I found out when I copied the Greek text into Babelfish to translate.

That's right: going from the GroupBlog to any part of the main site is a jump from Athens to 21st and Harvard.

July 09 2009 at 14:43:42
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: Oscar Meyer
: The grandson of the original has just passed... We need a Weiner Whistle salute to him!

7/17: Oscar Mayer Wienermobile crashes into Wis. home

July 09 2009 at 14:27:24
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: The Woodward Boys in TX
: What a great article. Thank you, Jimmy Reid!

July 09 2009 at 02:18:51
Name: Webmaster
Topic: Previous GroupBlog link

Archived GroupBlog 295.

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