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October 11 2004 at 11:57:40
Name: Jonathan Apple
Email: OldiesApple@aol.com
Location: Tampa Bay
Comments: Hi There!

Back in 1976, I spent a year on the air as Ray Bic at KAKC-AM. It was a special time with the likes of Ken Curtis and my other cohorts. In 1977, I moved over to the Satellite Studios of KELI-AM 1430 (7p-12m shift) and spent 3 fanstastic years with a great bunch of guys & gals, including Ray Livingston & John Lee Hooker. I'd like to make contact with any of my co-workers from my days in Tulsa, and it would also be fun to hear from any "fans" of KELi & KAKC from the late '70s.

Currently, I'm Rockin' & Rollin' as the host of "Oldies Coast-to-Coast"™..."America's Rock 'n' Roll Radio Show"™. It's great oldies show heard on 35 great radio stations across the U.S.A. (Sadly, no affiliate in Tulsa...yet.)

Hope to hear from you soon!

Jonathan Apple

Welcome, Jonathan. Maybe one of our stations here (like KOOL 106) will pick up your show soon.

There are currently some comments about Tulsa radio over on the Oklahoma Radio Board.

October 11 2004 at 11:51:28
Name: Mike (beagle-eyed) Bruchas
Location: Slow Slovenian news day in DC, "comrades"
Comments: Related to the last post - I stumbled onto the ALL-encompasing DFW TV web-site at Dallas-Fort Worth TV Station History.

The link for Lee Woodward links to TTM! It is great and I suggest ya'all check it out...

October 11 2004 at 11:42:21
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Sitting on Slovenian TV news feeds - da!
Comments: Stumbled on to this site: The History of Dallas-Fort Worth Radio and Television. Has pictures of a very young and tall Boyd Matson (of National Geographic Explorer) working in BIG D plus shots of Bob Schieffer - all from former anchor Russ Bloxom's great web gallery.

See the site's webmaster, Mike Shannon, in photos with Skandar Akbar and many other celebs on this page.

October 11 2004 at 09:19:48
Name: John Hillis
Location: Around and Stuff

Will the new Public Radio affect car radio reception of Channel 6's audio down there on the low end of the dial?

Enjoy the fair, y'all. Those of us who can't make it are counting on you to hold up our end of the grotesque delicacies eating and bizarre sights quotient.

KOTV at 87.7 will be a respectfully-distanced next-door neighbor of the new KWTU at 88.7 on the FM dial.

And speaking of the fair, yesterday was the last (rainy) day of it.

This year on the Midway, instead of the taunt of the Bobo, there was the encouragement of a bikinied young lady. When the mark hit the target with a baseball, into the dunk tank she went, and a dry girl replaced her on the bench. The barker called out the speed of each pitch, promoting faster and less accurate throwing. "Lotta Symbolism" would have been a good name for one of the girls.

Michael "Cowboy" Ellis from Durant, Oklahoma of CBS' "Big Brother 5" was a guest at KOTV's booth on a couple of occasions.

October 10 2004 at 13:55:11
Name: David Bagsby
Email: dcbatsunflower.com
Location: Lawrence KS
Comments: Didn't make it to the fair, but my informants tell me they had deep fried Snickers bars. Viva la gastronomique!

October 10 2004 at 10:37:03
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Not at the FAIR, but wishin' I wuz....
Comments: Wait - no CATFISH on a stick to complement the CHEESE on a stick? Always thought free defibrillator demos should be at the Fair.

Were B. Boyd or Bob Hower at Cleartone's booth or Don Woods sighted? No "Dr." Woodward bicycling thru with the KING in a sidecar???

Don is at the fair with a new Gusty statue this year (there is a picture in today's World).

October 10 2004 at 10:31:49
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Back in DC after 2 wonderful daze in Chicago in the Fall
Comments: Tell us more about TU's new classical station!

Who put it all together and how is it funded?

Note to Jim Ruddle - culture shock - when in Chicago on Friday - there was a very plump, very ancient Joel Dailey still doing the 4pm news on WLS-TV! What's he have - a lifetime contract? WLS TV for years has brought back "knowns" like Floyd Kalber and other from other stations as anchors. Harry Volkmann has been on air the longest in Chicago but my folks did not know how his deal with Ch. 32 worked out. At one time was followed by Kalber (who has kids/nephews with TU ties) in longevity there.

October 10 2004 at 09:25:40
Name: Webmaster
Comments: Next Friday, a new classical radio station will be launched in Tulsa: KWTU 88.7.

It will be a sister to TU's KWGS 89.5, which in 1947 was the first FM station in Oklahoma. A nice bit of symmetry noted by James Watts in the Tulsa World: 88.7 is the last available frequency on the FM dial in Tulsa.

Here's the new web site: PublicRadioTulsa.org. It is is a work in progress at the moment, but will serve both stations. Welcome, KWTU!

Also, the Tulsa Radio Icons event is this Tuesday. All about it on the Bulletin Board.

For more about both subjects, check today's World (access only if you subscribe).

October 09 2004 at 22:12:42
Name: Lowell Burch
Location: See the rain? The Fair must be in town!
Comments: The shuttle parking is a good idea. The only reason I tried the parking lot is that they waved me in. Once I was in, there was no parking! I asked why this was and they said that they forgot to put out the "Parking Lot Full" signs.

So I am thinking, before they built all the new facilities on the Fair Grounds, why didn't they move out to the Northside? Plenty of room and less traffic!

Finally, my best food buys: The Pork Sandwich (3.50 chopped, 4.50 steak) and the drinks are free refills; Italian Sausage Sandwich (4.50), Freddies Hamburger (3.00), and one place I found had an Egg Roll and Drink for 2.00!

Pokes Roll! Sooners Rule!

October 09 2004 at 20:46:51
Name: Erick
Email: ericktul@yahoo.com
Location: Stuck in traffic at 21st & Yale...
Comments: Just returned from this year's Tulsa State Fair, and here's my annual report for TTM on the happenings.

Interesting Things Seen/Experienced:
Budweiser Clydesdales (Where was the donkey?),
Wedding Cakes/Sugar Art (Very impressive, but proves some people have too much time on their hands.),
Birthing Center (Saw a piglet make its entrance into the world. Not suggested while eating.),
Animal Surgery Center (Witnessed a dog being neutered. Not the highlight of the evening.),
Extreme Canine Show (Not so extreme, but still very entertaining.),
Pig Races (From Porkchop Downs and Aquatic Center!)

People Seen/Met:
Mike Anderson at the Channel 2 booth,
Frank Mitchell and wife Teri Bowers at the Channel 8 booth, and
Saw Channel 6's Dick Faurot roaming the midway.

Foods Consumed:
Fried Cheese on a Stick (Always a favorite.),
Cotton Candy (Wouldn't be the fair without it.),
Strawberry Smoothie (The little umbrella it came with blew away.),
Philly Cheese Steak Sandwich (Tasty, but came with a yellow Velveeta-like substance instead of the typical provolone.)

Is it just me or have food prices at the fair jumped? $7 for a smoked turkey leg??
Why is non-dairy soft serve being served at the Dairy Bar?
Something has to be done about the parking situation. My suggestion: build a parking garage in the main parking area east of the IPE building.

One answer to the parking problem is the shuttle from Hale High School or the Education Service Center. Works great.

We caught the pig races again this year. Some pigs are less fierce as competitors than others, and stop to award themselves a mouthful of grass as an early consolation prize. The newborn goats are always a must-see for my wife.

We sampled funnel cake, steak and mushroom sandwich, overpriced turkey leg, corn dogs and lemonade, all very tasty.

During the free John Anderson concert, a crazed lady fan just behind us bellowed out "Yeahhh!"s almost continuously until a new-found friend hustled her up to the front, presumably to direct her stentorian adulation to Mr. Anderson at point-blank range.

October 09 2004 at 10:22:03
Name: John K. Young
Email: johnk662561atyahoodotcom
Location: Home soaking my feet after a day at the Tulsa State Fair
Comments: Mike and all...

I've found a website that has a lot of old radio shows from the 30's and 40's free for the listening. It's at:


They have shows like "Bob Hope", "Camel Caravan", "Arthur Godfrey's Talent Scouts" and many others. The shows are all in MP3 format, so they sound really good! Check 'em out!


October 07 2004 at 16:36:26
Name: Erick
Email: ericktul@yahoo.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: In response to Der Webmiester's query about Tulsa raves.

I have been to a couple of local raves, but they seemed more of a place to drink and partake in illegal substances than a place to enjoy music. Then again, that was some 10 years ago!

In high school, I went to an excellent rave in OKC. It was sponsored by a local church, believe it or not. The music was excellent, the people were great, and you didn't have to worry about inhaling someone's cloud.

And the linked definition of "rave" below suggests that the term is now passe.

October 07 2004 at 15:04:08
Name: Kathy Schramm Rapp
Email: kathy{dot}rapp{at}flash{dot}net
Location: Texas
Comments: Thank you, Teri from P.I.T.T. for acknowledging my guestbook entry. It sounds like your team is keeping very busy. I enjoy browsing your website. If I ever make it back up to the old stomping grounds, I'd like to take one of your haunted history tours. Sounds interesting.

Hi, Stevo! How can I tune in to your Nightmare City Halloween broadcast from down in the Houston area?? I'll be talking to you soon. Thanks, Kathy

October 06 2004 at 22:21:35
Name: Webmaster
Comments: This is slightly off-topic, but I am curious: do people in Tulsa go to raves? I don't recall seeing any mention in local media (maybe I'm just out of it). I like the musical genres of downtempo/chillout/nu-jazz/trip-hop/lounge/ambient/electronica (such as you can hear at The Delicious Lo-Fi Lounge), but know nothing personally about the subculture that spawned it. Can anyone enlighten me?

The Delicious Lo-Fi Lounge

October 05 2004 at 23:53:41
Name: Teri
Email: Teri@PITTok.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: Kathy asked (in GB 148) about which projects P.I.T.T. (Paranormal Investigation Team of Tulsa) has going right now and actually we are working on several leads around and out of town. Believe it or not, we are working on investigating an ENTIRE town! We are also working on some Halloween stories with Channel 2 & 6 - will know more in a couple of weeks.

Other projects include in addition to the numerous 'private' leads we are currently working, we are also working on a dinner walking haunted history tour in downtown Tulsa. Right now our investigations are our top priority and will keep us hopping throughout the winter.

Webmaster, thank you for this guestbook forum and your comments. Katy - thank you for your interest and asking about PITT.

You all ROCK!

October 04 2004 at 11:36:53
Name: Webmaster
Comments: A KWGS interview with S.E. Hinton last week is now archived in MP3 format at StudioTulsa (near the bottom of the page).

Tonight (Monday) at 10:30 pm, "Writing Out Loud" on OETA (KOED Channel 11 in Tulsa) presents S.E. Hinton discussing her work.

See a repeat broadcast of "Writing Out Loud" on the Tulsa Public School channel, Cox 20, Friday 10/8, 9:00-9:30 pm.

October 03 2004 at 08:22:02
Name: Suzan Fleener Parrinello/Chilcoat
Email: fritz@brightok.net
Location: South Central Oklahoma
Comments: Calling all cars! and photo nuts from 1972-73. I just wonder how many photos, if any, are out there of me when I was carrying my son. If Scooter B. (George Basil) or Gary Chew remembers the gang's 30 some odd people get-togethers and "waiting for the stork" parties over at Skunks and Rabons home......they might be able to dig up a few. I would love to have a picture of my 165 pound self to frame and keep close. By the by, for those of you "in the know", I re-united with my son in 1994 and we have been close ever since. Despite the Godfather-Grandfather's eraser, I hired a Private EYE and found him. He was in right there in Tulsa for all those years....Spooky that he is so much like me and my family. Please remind me: Did anyone ever try to talk me out of that?
Scott/Scooter/G.B. Seagraves Phone Home!
Best to all,
Suzi Fleener/Parinello/Chilcoat

October 02 2004 at 22:43:16
Name: Lowell Burch
Location: Driving the Fair Parking Lot looking for an empty space
Comments: I spent a couple of hours at the fair this evening. The Star Wars exhibit is nice. You can have your picture taken with a full-scale X-Wing Fighter, for a modest fee.

A couple of my college-aged sons went to see Seinfeld last night. They said he was in prime form.

October 02 2004 at 18:17:44
Name: Erick
Email: ericktul@yahoo.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: I hope to see Chuck Negron perform. I always enjoyed Three Dog Night, and their best song (in my opinion) is the aforementioned Easy To Be Hard. However, if anyone is looking for any good new music, I would suggest Green Day's "American Idiot". It's unlike anything they've ever done. More of a punkish rock opera that Pete Townshend would appreciate.

I saw a story on The News On 6 a few nights back about chief meteorologist Jim Giles. He has been missing from the station's newscasts in the past few weeks due a heart-related illness. The illness has caused him to realize that he has been overworking himself during severe weather season, and he mentioned that he would be cutting back some on how late he stays at the station during severe weather. He made no mention of the possibility of retirement, and I hope it stays that way. With all due respect to the other television meteorologists in town, I find Jim's direct and unexcited tone during turbulent weather to be very calming and reassuring. Here's to hoping he's back in the weather center, and in better health, soon.

October 02 2004 at 01:42:43
Name: Webmaster

Zingo sticker, courtesy of Billy G. Spradlin

Once again, the Tulsa State Fair is upon us!

Awhile back, I read the autobiography of Chuck Negron, one of the original members of Three Dog Night, who will be appearing at the fair next Sunday, Oct. 10. In the book, he mentioned the group's 1969 Tulsa show with B.J. Thomas. There was quite a party after the show in a wing of the Tulsa Holiday Inn.

I hear that Chuck is excellent voice these days, having cleaned up his extreme habits (and that's putting it mildly). He was the lead voice on "One" and "Easy To Be Hard", among many others. Also performing with him will be Rick Derringer, Spencer Davis and Mitch Ryder.

Here is the official Tulsa State Fair website. Unfortunately, this year, it is Flash-only, so you must have Flash installed to get any information about fair events. A cable/DSL connection is also necessary to avoid super-long wait times. Sorry, dial-up and MSN-TV users.

October 02 2004 at 01:17:32
Name: Stevo Wolfson
Email: stevoinyrstereo at aol dot com
Location: Chicago

Nightmare City Halloween live webcast on WARP Radio Network, October 31, from 2 PM until 12 AM CST

Visit the Nightmare City Halloween website for further information on the show's history and playlists, as well as the links to listen to the live webcast on Halloween.

This show creates a nice atmosphere for handing out that Halloween candy.

A note of Stevo's kicks off the Tulsa Counterculture of the 70s pages.

October 01 2004 at 14:37:00
Name: John Hillis
Location: No Fixed Abode, said to be helping police with their inquiries

Listen to Gary Chew review "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow"

Whew, for a moment there, I thought we had Garner Ted Armstrong back. "The World Tomorrow"....ah, never mind. Guess you had to be there.

September 30 2004 at 00:21:56
Name: Lowell Burch
Email: lburch3atcoxdotnet
Location: Admiral Twin Concession Stand Seating
Comments: Nice article about S.E.Hinton. I had the pleasure to work with her once on a TV production back in '76. About five years ago, I went to a small conference where she spoke. I purchased a whole stack of her books for gifts and she, quite gracefully, signed them all.

Not long ago, I saw a nation-wide contest for educators and the grand prize was a copy of "The Outsiders" signed by Ms. Hinton. No doubt, she is a national treasure.

September 29 2004 at 23:29:03
Name: Jim Reid
Email: jimreid56 at aol dot com
Location: Dallas
Comments: Answer to Mike. Many films in the silent era were tinted and toned. The labs would have the film strips from the release prints broken down by color. They would tint all the blues, then the amber, etc. Then they would reassemble the print.

When sound on film showed up around 1930, they found that this was way too difficult to do without a pop in the soundtrack at every splice so tinting was discontinued with a few exceptions. The opening & closing scenes of "The Wizard of Oz" were tinted sepia, as was the entire 1939 "Of Mice and Men". I've never seen a tinted "Key Largo", but I did run across a tinted 16mm print of "To Have and Have Not". I've asked other collectors about this, but no one knows the source of the WB prints. The films were released originally in B&W.

14 September 29 2004 at 15:06:20
Name: Webmaster
Comments: Here's a CNN story about S.E. Hinton and her new book, Hawkes Harbor.

Oklahoma/TV news: Brad Carson and Tom Coburn will be debating on NBC's "Meet The Press" this Sunday. Should be interesting regardless of your persuasion (please, no politicking here).

September 29 2004 at 11:30:15
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: DC
Comments: At KTUL - we had to turn colorburst off - on the film chains when showing b&w movies in the 1970's. This was for both the transmitter and color TV's of those days. But several times we didn't when we found that we had sepia, blue or green tinted b&w prints. Lionel Atwill was in some Brit horror film that had tinted segments and so did "Key Largo" with Bogie. Any one know why some b&w movies had tinted segments?

September 29 2004 at 09:06:15
Name: Kathy Schramm Rapp
Email: kathy{dot}rapp{at}flash{dot}net
Location: Texas
Comments: In reference to Kevin Johnson's entry on 9/27, I, too, used to watch Fantastic Theater when I was a kid in Tulsa. I fondly remember staying up late with my dad watching sci-fi/horror movies and drinking Pepsi or RC (yes, in the old glass bottles) and eating popcorn made the old-fashioned way in a big pot on the stove. The theme music to the show really gave me the willies! Ahh, the memories.

The Fantastic Theater theme (aka "Whirling") is now downloadable for free as an MP3 from the folks at BastaMusic, who are selling a new 4 CD set that includes it.

September 28 2004 at 10:26:39
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: waterlogged DC - is that the Potomac or a latte in my mug?
Comments: To Ray Rivera - we all "sin" at times and stray from the straight and narrow radio/tv path and become government contractors - usually for BETTER money!

September 27 2004 at 21:43:55
Name: Kevin Johnson
Email: kevin.johnson123 at verizon dot net
Location: Desert Hot Springs, California
Comments: I remember watching "Fantastic Theatre" when I was a kid. My dad worked 4 to midnight at the Ozark smelter in Coffeyville and mom and I would stay up and watch the movies till he got home. Mom always talked about a movie on there called "The Wasp Woman". I don't remember that, but my favorite was Vincent Price in "The Fly".

September 27 2004 at 13:08:24
Name: edwin
Location: I think so
Comments: The "Easy Money" cut was & still is used by so many that I can't recall who hasn't used it......Also, MB- I too went to that KC concert at the OKC fairgrounds. While I don't think there were very many there.....I'm not sure due to all those dang things in the air blocking my view! I recall sitting on the stage & how good Gentle Giant was, but as I said, having to brush away those dang patterns & blobs in my way.....t'was hard to tell if the fans were humans or those imposters that still hound me to this very day!

September 26 2004 at 20:18:44
Name: David Bagsby
Email: dcbatsunflower.com
Location: Lawrence KS
Comments: Just returned from seeing Devo in Chicago which was great. I think it was Honest John's and Starship...touted as the Inner City Mall that used the King Crimson 'Easy Money' tune for their commercial. I remember it was a slide show and one of the pics was of guys wearing paper sacks over their heads holding a 5 or 6 foot bong. You only saw this ad late at night.

September 24 2004 at 15:41:23
Name: Marc Hall
Email: fox23stormchaser [at] yahoo (dot) com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: (From Yahoo Group OklahomaMovieMakers)

Hi Mike and welcome. Your website is awesome!!! There were so many things that I had forgotten about. The "8's the Place" page has to be my favorite though. From the "Plenty Scary Movie" (HEE...HEE...HEE) to "Uncle Zeb" to Sasha Foo, it brought back some great memories.

I was actually on the Uncle Zeb show back in '76 or '77 and was fortunate enough to be chosen to play one of the games. It was the game where you had to put on the mask covering your eyes, spin in a circle and throw a pillow over a tape line on the other side of the set. I remember I let the pillow go and it went straight into the kids bleachers, LOL. I was really mad at the time because I didn't win but now I'm kind of glad I didn't. It makes for a better story .

There is one KTUL commercial that I couldn't find anything about. It was the commercial where the newscasters (Bob Hower, Chris Lincoln and Don Woods, I think) were riding horses across a field and Don Woods falls off the horse in full gallop. Do you have that one anywhere? Just curious.

I will definitely forward your page to my cousin Jeff Lazalier, former KJRH TV-2 chief meteorologist and a Muskogee native. He will really enjoy it.

Thanks for all of the hard work you put into your site and welcome to the group.

Thanks, and yes, there is a section about the Don Woods mishap here on the Weather page. But Kevin King over at KTUL did a higher resolution Windows Media version of this and many other classic 70s KTUL promotions (masterminded by Carl "Uncle Zeb" Bartholomew.)

September 24 2004 at 15:24:12
Name: Frank Gutch
Email: i.t.zorr@gmail.com
Location: Oregon
Comments: I'm putting together a feature piece on Cargoe for a mag out of Austin known as Pop Culture Press and have been trying everything I can to get hold of Jim Peters or Robert W. Walker. Or anyone who remembers the band before their move to Memphis. You may remember them as Rubbery Cargoe. Anyway, if there is anyone you know who might be able to help or who remembers the band at all, I would be most appreciative of a contact.

September 24 2004 at 11:18:18
Name: Ray Rivera
Email: rrivera at fknc dot com
Location: Ft. Knox, KY
Comments: Writing to y'all from the Bluegrass state, this is where I now make my home. I’m a tech writer/network administrator with Northrop Grumman at Ft. Knox – helping the US Army develop its FCS (Future Combat System.) The Army wants to respond to worldwide situations within 96 hrs—and it’s developing brand new ‘Star Wars’ type equipment and vehicles you’ll be hearing and reading about within the next couple of years. Havin’ lots of fun helping out my country during this time of need.

I do miss my Tulsa radio days and I look back at them fondly (and I still shake my head in disbelief at how immature I was and how patient my TV and radio peers were with me.) It's all worked out for the best, though. I didn't realize then that working with so many talented peers was a great foundation for many other experiences I've had. I try to get back to Tulsa every now and then to visit friends but we've been so busy these last couple of years (we're in the process of adopting kids from Guatemala!) that I haven't visited in a while. Gotta make one of these Tulsa media reunions one of these days, though.

Drop a line anytime, folks.

Ray and Kay Rivera rlrivera at worldnet dot att dot net (h)

September 23 2004 at 09:36:47
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: our nation's capitol
Comments: Many moons ago - the late Honest John Foutz, his first wife Marilyn and I piled into his li'l green BMW 2002 and drove to OKC to see KING CRIMSON play at the Fairgrounds. Good music - bad venue for a concert - I think it was not sold out. Can't remember much else - was not a KING CRIMSON fan but any chance to see a major band on tour for free - I took! Can't remember if BLUE OYSTER CULT was on first or not that night...we got there about an hour late.

September 22 2004 at 17:00:45
Name: David Bagsby
Email: dcbatsunflower.com
Location: Lawrence KS
Comments: On the subject of King Crimson, they just released a new DVD of 2 shows (Neal and Jack and Me). One from 1982 in Frejus and the other in Japan 1984. Bassist/Stick player Tony Levin is back in the group also. Look for new material from them next year.

Oz ad from 'Osmosis', Nov. 1972
Oz ad from from free newspaper "Osmosis", Nov. 1972

I believe Oz used an instrumental section of "Easy Money" from "Larks' Tongues" in their '73-'75 TV commercials. Maybe Edwin or David can back me up on this.

September 22 2004 at 15:11:52
Name: Mitch Kelly
Email: saxman78@yahoo.com
Location: Idabel Ok (East of Bokchito)
Comments: What a blast! I recently received the first Mazeppa video and I can't stop laughing! My wife doesn't understand what's so funny. (She's from Wynnewood.)

I can remember listening to KTBA when I was a kid of about 12-14. I went and bought King Crimson's Larks' Tongues In Aspic after hearing it late at night. The guy at Honest John's couldn't believe someone that young would want it. Happy to report that King Crimson and myself are still going strong!

Now I need to get video #2. Also a big thanks to Joe Welling, he got me a copy of "Scope Them Turkeys Out."


That's still my favorite King Crimson album.

Gailard Sartain celebrated a birthday just a few days ago.

September 22 2004 at 12:45:52
Name: Webmaster
Comments: Archived Guestbook 169. A few highlights:

The wily ways of the engineer were explored. We heard from and about P.I.T.T. (Paranormal Investigation Team of Tulsa). We observed the birthdays of both KTUL and Gailard Sartain. CBS and network news were discussed, as were Moe and the Three Stooges. KVOO-AM was remembered. This site was featured in Boing Boing again. We heard from Pat Freeman for the first time and many regular readers and contributors stopped in.

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