|Dick Van Dera--Uncle Zip - 10/26/99 23:10:03
Unless I have missed it......I have a name in mind that has not been mentioned.....I worked with him at KRMG....... Would love to hear more about him.......the late......ready?..............Johnny Martin! Let's hear some comments ok?
Bye for now.
Bill Hyden - 10/26/99 20:29:46
I e-mailed a request that my e-mail address be given to her but I've had no response yet. I think that 'near miss' by KOTV is enough for her to come here for the reunion. We'll see...after all it was her hometown.
That comment about a non-approval for KOTV reminded me of a time when Anita
Bryant was to appear on KVOO. I alerted a Capitol records rep about her
appearance...and later he said he tuned in but didn't note anything special
about her. Maybe I told the wrong guy.
Mike Bruchas - 10/26/99 20:12:29
Favorite Tulsa TV show: 30 Minutes - KOTV's monthly local version of 60 Minutes or Cartoon Circus
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Sportscaster Jay Berry on KTUL
I heard of Claude Hill at KWGS and think I met him once. I can't remember if he sold CCA and ITA transmitters.
In an earlier note I mentioned that KWGS and KWON in Bartlesville had the only ITA transmitter we knew of in OK. To keep KWGS on frequency after the station moved to the brick blockhouse under the stick on campus - we used a 100 watt bulb in a photo reflector clamp light on the back of the transmitter. I think it was to keep the crystal oven on frequency or something like that. This was in the days of tube transmitters. If it got too cold or the air conditioner was too efficient - like overnight, the transmitter room temp would affect KWGS' frequency. It would drift a touch when we first went on air. The longer the transmitter was on - we were supposed to switch it off. I think if you didn't switch it off and it got too hot - it would drift in the other direction.
In an effort to get more folks on the air and still be paid - we didn't have volunteers on air shifts at KWGS when I was there - Ed Dumit or Bob Lauer worked out a deal with TU. Minimum wage was $2.20 an hour then - we who pulled air shifts - split the hourly wage and accepted something like $1.25 an hour as a condition of being on-air staff.
If you did remote recording with the 50 lb. Magnecorders like Paul Goelz or myself - that was a freebie for the experience. Ditto later when a lot of staff did any news coverage - most had their own Sony 100 or 110 cassette recorders like Steve Smith, Lynn Wells or myself. Or we traded them to each other. Local radio "real news guys" like from KVOO and KRMG always treated KWGS greenhorns with respect - many had been in their shoes not long before.
Though KWGS had a minimal budget from TU then - we had long distance service and a primitive phone hybrid for recording "actualities" and "voicers". Do you remember when radio phone patched broadcasts had that annoying beep in the background? The phone companies made that part of any non-surreptious phone conversation recording.
I can remember when something happened in Alaska at Amchitka - either a volcano or a nuke carrying plane crash - we did several live and taped feeds via the phone lines.
I also remember being asked to do a phoner with a local stripper - who had
paraded topless downtown by the Mayo into the hands of the forewarned and
waiting Tulsa PD. She was protesting her right of freedom of speech for
undress....Yeah, sure. She was very logical in her reasoning but we decided
not to air her soundbite. It really wasn't KWGS - didn't think we had a lot
of topless dancer classical music fans - maybe for Subterrania.....
Dick Van Dera--Uncle Zip - 10/26/99 15:48:30
Thanks again.....more comments coming soon.
Terry Young - 10/26/99 03:02:09
Terry Young - 10/26/99 02:42:43
The station was located in a converted garage behind a commercial building
at about 12th and Harvard. It was all reel-to-reel "elevator music." I was
18 (turned 19 during the stint) and it was my summer job in 1967. We had
an on air "personality" named Jenny Wren. As I recall, she was a friend of
Mike Flynn, who worked at KRAV at the time. I was really good at loading
those hugh reels so the 17 or so people listening to our station could hear
Billy Vaughn, Lawrence Welk and Guy Lombardo. My station breaks were classics.
NEVER could say KOCW.... always transposed and called it KCOW. I guess my
COW fixation was a precursor to my being full of BULL as a politician!
Terry Young - 10/26/99 02:35:17
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Lionel forever
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: The hand up Lionel's shirt
Stupidest local commercial: Betsy Horowitz's "Behind Closed Door's" ad when she ran for Mayor.
This particular night, I told the story of a tornadic storm in the State
of Florida, which lifted an alligator from the Everglades and sucked it up
into the highest and coldest regions of the atmosphere. I don't remember
exactly how the question was phrased, but it was something like, "What was
the strangest thunderstorm event in North Carolina history?" The answer was
when a frozen alligator fell from a thunderstorm. I didn't think Miller would
Terry Young - 10/26/99 02:24:08
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Still Lee & Lionel
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Lionel's "Granny"
Stupidest local commercial: The one I did for Quik Trip
How did you find TTM?: A miracle.
Mike Bruchas - 10/26/99 02:19:43
Bill I think has broken legs in the course of reporting over the years and I wondered if this barefoot shot was taken after recovering from same?
He has probably also logged more flight time than any reporter in OK!
Don Greer - 10/25/99 18:45:47
How did you find TTM?: Tulsa NewsGroups
It seems like yesterday.
Betty Boyd - 10/24/99 17:42:56
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma!
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Too many to mention
Stupidest local commercial: Too many to mention!
How did you find TTM?: email message
I especially enjoyed reading the pages about Mr. Zing, Tuffy, Shaggy, etc. Even though John Chick has not physically been with us for many years, I almost never go anywhere that someone doesn't ask about, or comment about, John Chick. Quite a tribute, I think as most of us are put in folks' short-term memory box once we are off the tube. But John will be "forever" I am sure.
I took particular pleasure in writing my small book about Tulsa media folks. It was published in 1983, so things have surely changed for many of those included. At the party given for my "victims" when the book came off the press, the cautious expressions and literally "peeping" into the books was really funny to watch. I'm not sure what my friends expected to find, but since the National Enquirer was full-steam-ahead at that time, I suspect they thought I knew more about them than they wished and the book would "tell all." Not so..just a fun biographical sketch of those wonderful people who brought sound and sight to our living rooms.
I see Bob Hower quite often. He and I shared the honor of being King and Queen of the Tulsa Centennial Homecoming Celebration in 1998-99. What fun! For the past couple of years or so, Bob and the Clear Tone hearing aid people have asked me to participate in commercials (Bob has been their chief spokesperson for a number of years.) I'm looking forward to presenting Bob the "Lifetime Achievement Award" from the Oklahoma Chapter of AWRT on Oct. 28. The group was nice enough (or desperate enough, I'm not sure which) to present this award to me last year, so I get to help them honor Bob as the second recipient this year.
My life these days is filled with 3 great grandyounguns, 4 grandchildren,
2 "children" and the same wonderful Bill I have belonged to for 56 years.
I also keep very busy being a member of the Oklahoma House of Representatives,
going to legislative functions and conferences, giving speeches and
seminars....etc...etc....Perhaps, and only perhaps, politics isn't as exciting
as TV, but I do enjoy policymaking and am thankful for the sense of timing
I learned from newsman Don Norton, the ability to think on my feet I learned
from Lewis Meyer, and the proper way to grit my teeth and take someone elses
directions I learned from tv directors! How great to be alive!
I'm going to have to get my copy of your book rebound.
Mike Bruchas - 10/24/99 12:54:25
I remember when we ran the Judy Garland movie at 8 ("Meet Me in St.Louis"?) that had the "Trolley Song" in it, Bill mentioned his "uncle" wrote it.
I am sure Ralph Blane laughed to the bank when Saturday Night Live used to
do that bit in the 80's with the lounge act sisters seguing between songs
and culminating in them doing the "Trolley Song".
Mike Smith - 10/24/99 05:04:55
Location: Tonkawa, Oklahoma
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Uncanny Film Festival And Camp Meeting
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: MAZEPPA!!!
Stupidest local commercial: Can't think of one yet!
How did you find TTM?: Bookmarked it!
When you go to the KOTV site, you can find the link to broadcast.com, and
they have a archive to all of their newscasts from the past week!
Bill Hyden - 10/24/99 03:57:47
Later, I would on occasion visit Ralph Blane in New York. He told me once he had tickets for us to go to a Broadway Show. When the night arrived, he handed me three tickets and said he was backing out since he was 'backing up' Kay Thompson on a recording...Andy Williams was to be there too.
I delivered two tickets to two young ladies in the lobby of the theatre where 'Bill Barnes Revue' was playing. Those two ladies were Georgia Jones and Susan Watson. I did see Susan in Bye Bye Birdie.
I appreciate learning where she might be. Thanks Jim, for advising via TTM. I had asked Georgia Jones Snoke if she knew Susan's location but, as I recall, she didn't.
Larry Bettis is deceased. He was working in El Paso...and that is where Bill
Blair was when I last heard.
Fred Miler - 10/23/99 13:20:31
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Cy Tuma
Stupidest local commercial: Larry Reasor for Reasor Food Stores
How did you find TTM?: Rockin' John Henry
Mike Smith - 10/22/99 23:51:25
Location: Tonkawa, Oklahoma
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Uncanny Film Festival And Camp Meeting
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: MAZEPPA!!!
Stupidest local commercial: Don't know yet.
How did you find TTM?: Bookmarked it!!!
I'm wondering if there any magicians or illusionists coming on any of those
Tulsa morning talk shows in time for Halloween? I should love to tape whatever
Lowell Burch - 10/22/99 18:22:46
I did not know they were recreating ball games on the radio until I was a
teen, the talent was so competent. Once I found out, I noticed the hits all
sounded alike, foul grounder or fly, and the same kid was always yelling
the same thing over and over in the background, no matter which team was
Jim Ruddle - 10/22/99 15:38:23
Location: Rye, NY
She was a little nervous, and the song, while charming, is not exactly a show-stopper. She was delightful, nevertheless, and wide-eyed pretty.
Dick was not impressed. He looked at me, rolled his eyes and said, "I don't think so." End of story, sort of.
The girl's name was Susan Watson, and within three years was starring with Dick Van Dyke and Chita Rivera in "Bye, Bye Birdie," on Broadway. That was followed by leading roles in "No, No, Nanette," "42nd Street," "Celebration," and other musicals, including a television special of a fairy tale, not "Cinderella," but something like that. My memory ain't what it used to be.
Anyway, she had a great career and, even now, is appearing with Andrea Marcovicci in a series of so-called "Lost Musicals" with the 42nd St. Moon, a popular San Francisco group that plays at the New Conservatory Theater.
Another KOTV non-discovery.
Mike Bruchas - 10/21/99 12:56:20
Location: Warshington, DeeCee
Stupidest local commercial: Chick Don't Care -or- Lynn Hickey Dodge -or- DB Wilkerson's
Growing up in Chicago I was addicted to MOR WMAQ, their news, personalities and the weekend NBC Monitor program. I also switched back and forth to rockers WLS and WCFL (the latter whose transmitters I could see from my house). Late in my last high school year WMAQ went country - one of many formats they played with - not all the jocks stayed on with this -- I think John Doremus left for WAIT then.
Coming to Tulsa in Aug. of '69 - I listened to KVOO every morning - it was
MOR and NBC. Vince Paul was the morning man - I believe followed by Jay Jones.
Paul did not seem to stay on when KVOO went country. Anyone heard of where
Frank Morrow - 10/21/99 01:06:30
Location: Austin, TX
I think he was forty years old at the time. As a very callow 19 year-old, forty seemed to be rather old to me. I wondered what it was like to be married for such a long time. He said that he and his wife grew closer with each passing year. I dont recall ever meeting her.
Once during his spirituals program he talked for a long while about how he needed people to patronize his sponsors more frequently or he would not be able to retain them, and he would have to cease doing the program. After a record started I asked him if there were any danger of his going off the air. He said, No. But I have to jack up the listeners ever so often to get them to stop by the sponsors more frequently.
These two stories make it sound as if Frank were a cad and a crass manipulator. He actually was very personable and fun to work with. I loved to get him laughing while he was on the air by inserting sneak voices from various commercial transcriptions. (This was pioneered by KVOO, particularly on Sleepwalkers Serenade with Doc Hull.) After a few weeks he said that he thought the sneak voices were great, but he asked me to refrain from doing it while he was reading a commercial. His sponsors just didnt find it amusing.
I had only regret in quitting KAKC and moving to KTUL: I wouldnt be
seeing Frank Berry. Its a shame that Oklahoma was a Jim Crow state
at the time. Frank and I could have become good friends, and I could have
enriched my life by experiencing black culture.
Mike Reynolds - 10/20/99 15:35:46
Favorite Tulsa TV show: Shock Theatre
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Jim Giles
Stupidest local commercial: Chick Don't Care
How did you find TTM?: Friend
I first heard Will Rogers student Anita Bryant when she sang in South Pacific on the Edison High school stage. I believe I remember Patty Fowler-Page singing Page milk commercials on Tulsa radio but I don't remember which station. I may be one of the few posting memories here who has ridden to the top of the old KOTV transmitting tower in Sand Springs. At least I had the sense to ride inside the KOTV open air elevator car unlike some friends who rode up the KOTV tower on top of the car.
FWIW: The most beautiful site for a Tulsa TV tower was KOTV's first tower
on the NBT building. The most ugly site in Tulsa for a TV tower is the far
east point of Oral's CityPlex. TV towers should never be anchored off to
the side of any building. The TV transmitting antenna, like the station,
needs to be the center of attention.
Frank Morrow - 10/20/99 02:26:00
During one program he gave a movie review of a John Wayne film, and related a story about something gallant which Wayne had done for the leading female actor while they were waiting for the shooting to start. After the program I asked Louis where he got his story. He said he made it up. But he was so sincere, Im sure no one ever suspected.
Louis was a colorful, cheerful, highly intelligent man. He brightened the day of a lot of people---on both sides of the mike.
A footnote: One Sunday when I was doing network cutaways for local advertisers
during a professional football game, I learned the hard way why Louis
didnt use real ice cream. I never knew when a time out would occur
which would require me to read a 60 second spot to cover up the commercial
on the network. During one game my father brought me something to eat---some
fried chicken and a thick milkshake (probably from the Malt-o-Plenty at 6th
and Boston). Right after I had taken two large swallows of the milkshake,
a timeout was called. I clipped off the network feed (while listening to
it in my headset), and turned on my mike. To my horror my tongue was frozen
from the ice cream. I got through the commercial, but, if there were any
listeners, they probably thought that a retarded person had been hired by
KAKC for their Sunday afternoon shift.
Erick - 10/19/99 16:28:56
Yes, Wayne McCombs does a sports trivia show called The Sports Answerman Saturday mornings on KQLL 1430. Listened to it a couple of times. I wish it weren't hidden in that spot.
Oklahoma Redhawks (successors t the OKC 89ers) games are, as always, shown
on Cox Cable channel 19 usually. I love The Brick (the new stadium in Bricktown),
but there was nothing like watching an 89ers game at old All Sports Stadium
at the fairgrounds. It was probably the worst stadium in minor league ball,
but was lots of fun. It's still around, hosting college softball games and
lots of concerts.
Jim Ruddle - 10/19/99 15:22:52
Location: Rye, NY
My first job at KSEK (The Keystone of Southeast Kansas), in Pittsburg, required me to do both live and wire report baseball games of the Pittsburg Browns. The wire reports came in on a ticker with a superannuated Western Union guy handling the tape as it came in. This was a paper tape, with small characters printed on it. "S1S" was "Strike one, swinging," "B2O" was ball two outside, and so on. The crack of the bat was accomplished by hitting a small baseball bat, about a foot long, that hung on a string near the mike. It was rapped with a xylophone mallet.
The best at game recreations was, hands down, Gordon MacLendon, aka "The Old Scotchman," who owned a string of radio stations, starting with KLIF, in Dallas. MacLendon created the Liberty Network which broadcast recreated games, that is, wire report games that were eventually outlawed by the FCC.
Two of his most memorable broadcasts involved wire breakdowns. In one, he
had the batter hit something like forty-five foul balls, each one colorfully
related by MacLendon. He would say things to his sidekick, Jerry Doggett,
such as "Jerry check and see if the record books have a section on foul balls.
This must be close to the record." The best though was one time the wire
went down for ten or fifteen minutes and MacLendon invented a dog that ran
on the field. For the entire period until the wire was restored, MacLendon
described the delightful chase of the dog, the involvement of the umpires
and the players as the beast cavorted around the diamond, always eluding
the grasp of those who were chasing him. It was as good as a movie.
Mike Bruchas - 10/19/99 13:46:35
Location: East Coast
Wayne McCombs btw is author of a book on Tulsa Baseball available at Steve's
Sundries in Tulsa and I guess he is still doing a once or twice a week sports
trivia show on some Tulsa radio station these days.
Frank Morrow - 10/19/99 05:25:18
Location: Austin, TX
One night the ticker tape machine malfunctioned. Poor Mack had to delay for several minutes until the signal came in again. He did some imaginative ad-libbing. He also read a couple of extra Barnes-Manley laundry commercials.
One summer Mack had a veteran newspaper sports reporter to do color with him. His last name was Turner. He added a lot to the broadcast. He was very knowledgeable and could spin funny yarns. However, for some reason unknown to me, there apparently were negative comments made behind Turners back from a few listeners. After doing many games, Turner either quit or was forced out. It was a real shame.
I was delighted when, four years later, I was again working at the same station
as Mack---KRMG. However, the days of fake audio were over. The Oiler games
were not broadcast over KRMG.
Thanks for reminding us of those wire recreations!
The webmaster - 10/19/99 01:29:33
Mike Bruchas - 10/18/99 23:23:55
Favorite Tulsa TV show: John Chick Show
Favorite Tulsa TV personality: Cy Tuma aka "The Fish"
Though I still like my previously mentioned story of Bill Certain in the
booth at 8 never saying Butte knits correctly
- always he said "butt" knits on the spot and the client NEVER corrected
Mike Miller - 10/18/99 23:00:28
Location: Vienna, Virginia
Reminds my of the the time in the late 50's during one of my Radio-TV classes
at TU when KWGS Chief Engineer, Claude Hill said he had just recorded an
album, especially for announcers. He told us: "It's titled, 'Correct
MITCH - 10/18/99 16:55:41