October 30 2002 at 18:09:18
Name: Dave Smith
Email: timsvad@yahoo.com
Location: Somewhere east of Laramie
Comments: Yep, Frank-- my spouse and I saw Jack Eddleman last Friday. Unlike you and me, he seems to have aged a little, but he still struts like he did on Central's south auditorium stage, lo, those five decades ago. I'm not a big Gilbert and Sullivan fan, but there's no way I could stay home knowing that Jack was entertaining just a few miles away.

October 30 2002 at 17:09:06
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: One of my co-workers had on OLN - Outdoor Life Network - former sibling of Speed Channel. Fishing with Roland Martin was on - is it me or does he look a bit like the late George Gobel now?

Beau Anello and the guys at Stunkard-Phipps Productions used to do this show - at least the final mix at KOTV. I TD'ed it for a while, Stu Odell or Brad McLaughlin on Audio and Theda Newkirk as the Tape Op. Maybe Dick Schaan or Brad McLaughlin switched off on shading tape video levels. We did it after sign-off - back when 6 signed off at 12:30 or 1am on weeknights. Boy - was that a VERY long time ago. Circa 1976-77.

The Stunkard-Phipps folks cut packages on 3/4" - we mixed in keys and mastered on 2" tape. Jon Petree (?) - formerly of 2 was still alive then as videographer - he was Roland's double and often "impersonated" him in clothes and any wide wide cover shots that they might need after Roland was off elsewhere.

Jon was another good guy who died way too young. I can't remember if he and Beau were the show shooters or if Beau replaced Jon......

October 30 2002 at 17:06:50
Name: David Bagsby
Email: david_bagsby@hotmail.com
Location: Haunted Lawrence, KS
Comments: Wasn't that creepy place on S. Memorial Pink Barn?

October 30 2002 at 15:51:03
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: Okay - what was the old mansion on S. Memorial that served as a haunted house for several years in the 70's in Tulsey? I don't remember.....

It wouldn't be the Ma-Hu Mansion, which has been getting a lot of attention here lately, would it?

October 30 2002 at 11:04:39
Name: Webmaster
Email: mike@tulsaTVmemories.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: This web site will be featured in next month's OUTline Magazine...just did an interview for it.

October 29 2002 at 11:33:28
Name: Erick
Email: ericktul@yahoo.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: As Gary Thompson referenced, Jeff Lazalier is no longer the chief meteorologist at KJRH. He has been replaced by another KFOR alum in Dan Threlkeld. I'm not sure what happened with Lazalier, whether he quit or was fired.

October 29 2002 at 11:03:52
Name: Sonny Hollingshead
Email: sonny@intcon.net
Location: Rebel Jeans in Crystal City
Comments: During part of the early seventies KELi's newscast was on the half-hour. The newscast open said: "First In America With (gun fires twice) 30/30 News!".

No doubt this was in response to KAKC's 20/20 News, a format they maintained for several years in the late sixties and early seventies.

October 29 2002 at 02:05:33
Name: Frank Morrow
Email: frankmor@io.com
Location: Austin
Comments: Did anyone see Jack Eddleman's performance of Gilbert and Sullivan last week in Tulsa? Being in Austin, I was unable to attend. Jack was a Central 1951 classmate of mine, and a fellow student of Isabelle Ronan. He has had a very successful and distinguished career in music and on the stage in performing, directing and producing.

Another Ronan success story.

October 28 2002 at 20:37:36
Name: David Dill
Email: Deme8485@aol.com
Location: Norman, OKlahoma
Comments: Me and Micky Harris, his wife, Rocky, and a friend, John Cheek, drove from Weatherford, Oklahoma to Tulsa to see George Harrison. We had floor seats for the concert. I remember seeing Bill Graham walk by our seats before the show began. I remember Leon Russell walking down the middle aisle toward the stage. The show was excellent and it's a concert I'll always remember. I still talk to Micky Harris but have lost contact with John Cheek.

October 28 2002 at 20:21:51
Name: Gary Thompson
Email: Gthompson25@cox.net
Location: Tulsa
Comments: Any body know where Jeff Lazalier went? -GT

October 28 2002 at 13:40:05
Name: David Bagsby
Email: david_bagsby@hotmail.com
Location: Lawrence KS
Comments: The Stinky Cheese Man was a HUGE hit at the TU Library when I worked there. At least, it was with the staff. It's always nice to see something eccentric gain popularity.

October 28 2002 at 07:21:20
Name: Lane Smith (via email)
Comments: Hi Mike,

Great site! Thanks for throwing some of my books on there. As you may have heard in the interview I did with Becky (Dixon), a lot of my twisted imagery comes from childhood memories of Oklahoma mixed with a hearty dose of Universal horror films, strange puppet animations, Buster Keaton silents, EC comics, Rt 66, Major Matt Mason, Tex Ritter records, Lewis Meyer shows and lots more.

--Lane

p.s. For all you Okies out there, a book on Woody Guthrie that I did the cover for was just nomimated for the National Book Award. It's called This Land Was Made for You and Me, written by Elizabeth Partridge.

Welcome to the site, Lane. Lane is the illustrator of many books, including The Stinky Cheese Man and Other Fairly Stupid Tales. I learned within the last year that Lane is my second cousin! More about him at the bottom of the 2nd page of the TTM Gift Shop.

October 27 2002 at 18:07:24
Name: David Harmon
Email: K6XYZ@attbi.com
Location: Torrance, Ca.
Comments: Continuing the Harvey Young airport thread just a little more....I lived in Tulsa from 49' to 61' and remember several model airplane contests there. That started me hanging around at the airport whenever I could...hey, it was a long bike ride from 21st and Lewis where I lived!

Jump ahead to 73'...I flew a Bonanza from Torrance to Tulsa in one day...meaning I was pretty tired when I got to Harvey Young and it was dark, starting to rain and I am holding a gas can out in front of the engine trying to get it to smell the gas that was not in the wings. I made a downwind approach to the North on the East side of the airport and I am looking to the left when suddenly the entire cockpit is lit up with a brilliant bright red light....I had just missed the KVOO towers on my right. I went ahead and landed and went in and talked to Harvey....but not before I swept out and deodorized the cockpit.

I've got a lot of memories from Harvey Young airport and Spartan too. My dad went to school and later was a flight instructor there too. California Dreamin' but still on Tulsa Time!

Dave
ON CHS 61'

October 27 2002 at 15:31:35
Name: Robert Walker
Location: Steamy SoFla
Comments: KAKC inherited the "20/20 News" format from its programming consultants at the time, Drake/Chenault. KHJ/L.A., CKLW/Detroit, etc, all used it.

An earlier format was "970 News at 9:70 Before the Hour." (!) I remember that a memo from then-PD Scooter Segraves pointedly insisted that the intro play at exactly 10 minutes and 10 seconds (9 minutes and 70 seconds) before the top of the hour.

When I was a kid, it was "News Alive at :55" -- and, this is vague, but it seems now that a dedicated Sports Report ran every hour at :20 past?

October 27 2002 at 12:36:53
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: Was it KELI or KAKC that had the shotgun blast sound under the newscast name announcement??????

October 27 2002 at 01:12:47
Name: Dr. Larry L. Kraus
Email: llkraus@tyler.net
Location: Tyler, TX
Comments: As one who used to say, "This is Larry Kraus, KAKC 20/20 News, and that's what's happening, today, October 27, 2002..." I can say (with some authority, for once in my life!!!!) that KELI was NOT 20/20 News. When KAKC started 20/20 news, it was at 20 minutes after the hour and 20 minutes before the hour. When the FCC relaxed their news requirements, KAKC cut the number of news casts dramatically, but kept the name. I hope someone else asks a question I know the answer to!!!!

October 26 2002 at 18:55:39
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Wet NC - sitting on CART feeds from Surfers Paradise in the OZ
Comments: When at TU and visiting friends at Keli - I was amazed how big the saucer seemed INSIDE, Too bad it got demolished.

Oh, yeah - I miss the old green Chevy Mobile Newsroom with giant orange mars lite on top. I think Randy Kindy had to drive it when he was doing news there.

Was KELI - "20/20 News" formatted - I forgot......

Anyone heard from former N. Tulsan Dale Phariss - last heard of as a media specialist with a power company in Anadarko - working with Mark Daugherty - Rex's bro. Dale took a job as night janitor for a while at KELI while going to TU - as I recall he said - it kept him out of the oil patch....

October 26 2002 at 13:43:11
Name: Chuck Fullhart
Location: Trying to find a vacuum tube for the Philco so I can listen to KELi
Comments:

I've heard the rumors about KELi, too. The sports radio format and some of the other experiments on formatting for AM in this market have not been that great, believe me; and I don't think it has produced the numbers that the programmers and management had hoped for, but then neither did the Women's Football League, and a couple of other football teams that tried to set up shop in Tulsa, as well a couple of soccer and hockey teams.

As a local listener, in my secret identity, to oldies stations among others, KQLL (local FM oldies rocker) is trying to move forward in time by changing the mix, and phasing out the 60's and moving into the 70's, and pretty soon it's gonna be disco and the Allman Brothers, and "Staying Alive" again.

Which is understandable from the numbers viewpoint; if you don't have them, you can't sell time. But listener loyalty and viewer loyalty seems to be something that the buck overrides a lot today. But it's just business, like the local mafioso says before he cuts your fingers off and breaks your kneecaps.

There is a place in the Tulsa market for that music, believe me, especially when radio is "niche marketing" today.

Just as an example, it has kept KOMA in OKC alive all these years as a rocker, and then an oldies rocker. Of course, a clear channel signal on the AM side never hurts anything either.

Hope the additional strength of the upgrade on the signal and the format come together, and provide a little additional good listening for us "oldies".

Don't forget, old rockers never grow old or go away, we just play a few less gigs every week.

October 25 2002 at 13:15:23
Name: Brian
Email: brian74055@aol.com
Location: 6th Floor Ivory Tower
Comments: Yes, do tell, do tell. That would be great if KELi did come back on the air. I remember going to the Tulsa State Fair and admiring the space ship building that housed the studios.

October 24 2002 at 15:15:55
Name: Gary Thompson
Email: Gary@kxoj.com
Location: 45th floor of Cityplex Towers....81st and Lewis....Tulsa
Comments: KELi???????

Back on the air??????

Ok, Give.....Give!!!!!!

You can't drop a bomb like that and just walk away!

I would assume that 1430 is picking up the calls again. Especially since they're getting ready to go 25K. What's up? Oldies....what?

October 23 2002 at 23:49:35
Name: Jerry Hawkins
Email: jerhawk2001@aol.com
Location: Some Little Oka-Chobie_Town in Oklahoma
Comments: Hey...! I Love this Tulsa TV Memories Web Site...! Psst...oh don't tell nobody I tol' you dis...but rumor has it that Radio Station "KELi" is gettin' back on the air....

Now then, if you and your girl friend ain't got nothin ta do.....Go See Tulsa's Tommy Crook. Talk about a great guitarist......well, go here to check him out:

http://www.geocities.com/jerry_hawkins1/Tommy_Crook.html

Yes, he IS a great guitarist. When Tulsa visitors dine at Lanna Thai, they must wonder if such monster talent is the norm in our fair city. He can be seen there Friday and Sunday evenings. The food is fantastic, too.

October 23 2002 at 17:26:09
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Norf Caryliner not Souf Cacylacky
Comments: Noticed that James Garner is now voicing a flight of new 2003 Chevy Avalanche and other truck model spots. Aren't them Okie bred voices reassurin'?

Just finished Tony Hillerman's biography. Not his best book (it's life not fiction) but good nuggets in it. Did not realize that his was one of the last families to live in the now ghost town of Sacred Heart, OK. when growing up. Nor of his ties to OSU (only 1 year), OU and OKC. Nor did I know he was blinded in one eye in WWII and heavily wounded but has had a pretty interesting life in academia and the newspaper biz. Buy it thru this site off Amazon.com or pick it up at your local library.

This is a good time to note that you can avoid all that mall traffic by doing your Christmas shopping early...at the TTM Gift Shop.

October 21 2002 at 11:52:53
Name: DR. RATT
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Comments: I used to do the Local and National Rock and Roll News on JUST AFTER MIDNIGHT/ KLOT 25.

Also Mike, I love Tulsa TV Memories.

It makes me feel good to see things that I have missed for a long time.

Thanks a lot.

The good doctor was mentioned in Guestbook 81 in a note by the webmaster about KLOT. I hope we hear more about "Just After Midnight" and KLOT.

October 21 2002 at 08:58:46
Name: Jim Reid
Email: jimreid56@aol.com
Location: Morning another pitiful Cowboys loss
Comments: Was there anything John Chick couldn't do? He was probably the most talented person I've ever known.

October 20 2002 at 11:55:40
Name: Frank Morrow
Email: frankmor@io.com
Location: Austin
Comments: Speaking of airplanes hanging from telephone lines and just missing houses, there was a somewhat similar incident on a Sunday afternoon in about 1947. My dad and I were at the Tulsa fair watching the midget car races at the fairgrounds track, when it was announced that a plane had crashed into a house about a mile from the track.

After the races were over we naturally headed to the area to see the sight, which was roughly in the 11th Street and New Haven area. When we got there---sure enough. There was a small plane half buried in the roof of the house. I don't recall the extent of deaths or injuries.

Good to hear from you, Frank.

October 18 2002 at 19:52:55
Name: Millard W. New
Location: Indiana
Comments: Born in Tulsa in 1940. Raised there and attended Tulsa Central High School (graduated in 1958)

October 18 2002 at 15:42:44
Name: Jim Ruddle
Email: gardel@erols.com
Location: Rye NY
Comments: It's a pity Johnny Chick isn't around for Puckerama. He would have enjoyed it. John was a proficient whistler in his youth, back when there were tunes that could be whistled. He was the only person I ever knew who took whistling lessons and I haven't the foggiest idea of how one would have gone about finding a whistling teacher, in Tulsa, in those days. Now, I suppose one could be found on the web.

October 18 2002 at 09:54:28
Name: webmaster
Email: mike@tulsaTVmemories.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: "Puckerama", an international whistling festival, is happening in Tulsa this weekend, October 17-20. In honor of Puckerama, October 14-20 has been proclaimed "Musical Whistling Week" in the State of Oklahoma. For more info, visit the Puckerama site.

October 17 2002 at 20:47:39
Name: Emily Webb
Email: tv6lady@yahoo.com
Location: TULSA
Comments: I know that there's a Lauer Cinema here in Tulsa. A friend of mine runs it, and he named it in honor of a teacher he had. Maybe that's what Mike is thinking of.

In other news, this page is still a lot of fun to drop by and visit. Hopefully, I'm making my own "Tulsa TV Memories" over at KTUL.

Emily has a TV Fun Page on her site.

October 17 2002 at 17:24:42
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Wet NC
Comments: I heard from someone who read about it in in the World business section - someone has started an audio firm in Tulsa named after the late Bob Lauer. Supposedly the owner had taken a course from Bob when he was a teaching assistant at TU many years ago and decided to honor his memory.

Anyone know anything about this? Wonder what the Lauer family thinks of this?

October 16 2002 at 15:42:21
Name: John Hillis
Location: Not at Discoveryland
Comments: I read in the Delta Shuttle magazine that the re-staging of "Oklahoma" took material out that R&H put in the trunk to make Jud Fry more "3-dimensional" and less of a cut-out character. Not having seen the revival, I can't speak to it. But I love that line in "Poor Jud is Dead" about the daisies in the dell putting out a different smell because ol' Jud is underneath the ground.

Incidentally, my spouse was one of the costumers for a couple of summers of "Oklahoma" at Discoveryland. It helped her kick the gingham habit. Vigorous dancing in 100+ degree evenings is hard on costumes (actors, too, but you can _always_ find actors[grin]).

October 16 2002 at 14:31:02
Name: John Boydston
Comments: If I may chime in...I saw the McCartney show earlier in the year in Atlanta, and it is NOT to be missed. Go wherever you need to go to see it. Best of all for me was that we took our kids. From the opening notes of "Hello Goodbye" they were able to sing along for most of the show, which is a bit mind-boggling in itself; as is the fact that those songs are so old, but sound so fresh. I thought it pretty clever of him to surround himself with very young unknown musicians this time around. I bet everyone on stage was at least 30 years younger than Paul, and they brought a lot of heart and energy to the tunes, and you know that can't be bad.

I've got a more relevant musical question: We recently took in the "Oklahoma" revival in NYC, and that too was entertaining. Great songs, great cast, etc. But I guess I'd never seen even the movie, because I had no idea there was such a dark sub-plot involving Judd, who becomes this disturbed, menacing stalker-type character. You want Judd to be dade before this show's over, whether it's in the script or not. Was the original so dark or is this a post-modern neo-expressionist spin?

October 16 2002 at 10:26:08
Name: Lowell Burch
Email: J9Z1B95@aol.com
Location: Back from OKC
Comments: The Paul McCartney concert proved that the guy is more than an icon. His talent and energy blew the audience away. Two and half hours of solid top-flight music and entertainment flew by as he cranked out the hits once more. I was impressed by his band but his solo set really showcased his musicianship. Hackers, like myself, only have to watch Sir Paul for a few seconds to realize why he is a living legend and we are not.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

October 16 2002 at 07:41:13
Name: Noel Confer (from earlier this year)
Email: nconfer@aol.com
Location: Home again in Tulsa
Comments: Webmaster:

Occasionally, we have problems with a Guestbook and are forced to switch to different one. If you bookmark the Guestbook alone, you may find yourself addressing an empty hall when you write in. I know that has happened to several people.

You can always get to the one currently in use by clicking any "current Guestbook" link on the site. The best approach for regular readers is to save your bookmark to the main page or the What's New page. You will always be OK that way.

I discovered these comments from Noel in one of the suddenly-orphaned old Guestbooks, and belatedly present them to you.

(April 01, 2002) Thanks to Ruddle and Morrow, there's been nice words about Miss Ronan and the "Experimental Theater of the Air" at Tulsa Central High. She and her concentration on broadcast training gave many of us our first and valuable boost into the studios of the world. It's probably gottten boring to followers of this fine page, but it's important to us. In my time ('48 &'49) there was one unsung, and hitherto unmentioned hero. Our scripts were mostly class-created, with far ranging subjects. The majority were created and scripted by one young man, Ted Machler. This was the case, week after week, and often required a great deal of research. His high-quality scripts were praised by the radio pros at the local station. I don't remember Ted taking any of the roles he created but he was the producer on them all. Ted was too smart to follow the soon-to-die radio drama path. He has been, for many years, a Shrink in Florida. I wouldn't dream of taking away any of the credit due away any of the credit so many of us owe to Miss Ronan, but I feel it important for this page to have one tip of the hat to another who contributed so much

(June 10, 2002) I'll try to match some goofs posted earlier. A young man named Mike Lowe was called in, as a last minute replacement for an ill DJ on KSON San Diego. As PD,I was listening. He reached the spot where he was finishing a live spot and wasn't sure which pot to open,so he reached for the PSA book. He read a short PSA and ad-libbed his own closing with "so help stamp out mental health."

(June 29, 2002) I get a hoot when one of you lads write a heading such as "Some really old trivia" and then start with way back in the seventies....."Lawdy!" My AFTRA card was issued before the 70's. "Old" trivia goes back to being radio actors, in the 40's.

October 15 2002 at 16:22:43
Name: John Shepelwich
Location: Richmond, VA
Comments: John, Hale's little undercover operation was indeed a cheap shot (I recall he used film cans and claimed it was all unprocessed exposed 16mm); TUL never liked us after that. I hope I recall correctly that Jim initiated the piece and that it didn't come from my desk. One thing in his favor, of course, was that security personnel--as well as most of the Tulsa market--failed to recognize his stardomness.

October 15 2002 at 16:11:56
Name: John Hillis
Location: Fairfax, Va.
Comments: Harvey Young with a paved runway...gasp. Progress marches on further. I once flew up to Wichita for a Jimmy Carter visit with Henry Lile, who, on touching the 172 down on the giant strip at the regular airport, said, "Jest never feels quite right on concrete."

On the subject of airports, Tulsa Int'l used to give news folks airport security passes, till I went and screwed that up. Well, I had help. Jim Hale did one of the usual kind of local TV security test stories, and I stood up the hallway, providing cover while the photog shot Jim going through the checkpoint with his ersatz contraband. (Not that he called it that on the air. Only Lionel could get away with saying "ersatz contraband" on KOTV in 1978.)

It was kind of cheesy, and I always felt a little like we cheapshotted the airport. Whatever threats there were to aviation back then, they weren't likely to begin in Tulsa.

The kind of progress in airport security and threats between then and now we could all do without.

October 15 2002 at 13:48:22
Name: Lowell Burch
Email: J9Z1B95@aol.com
Location: On the Turner headed to the big concert.
Comments: About the Coliseum: A couple of years ago they were putting a parking lot in where the old building used to sit. Yes, the old dressing rooms, boiler room, etc., were still visible and intact. I think I mentioned this in an earlier book but since it was brought up again, I thought I'd respond.

I still wish someone besides me could remember the old Squeek, Scratch and Col. Blink cartoon. It may have been on the Capt. Hal show.

October 14 2002 at 18:38:33
Name: Chuck Fullhart
Email: cfullhart@aol.com
Location: Lighting the flare pots for night landings at Eastland Mall
Comments:

Carl is right about Harvey Young being the only remaining private airport around here. And one of the oldest as well; Spartan trained British pilots and American pilots there in WWII, at least in the early days of the war

Re: Henry Lile's reference to "Airmen's Acres. . There has been a group of homes, extending a few blocks north and east of Harvey Young that are generally far older than the "modern" developments that built up as Tulsa headed east and grew up around Harvey Young in the 70's and 20's. I seem to remember this area being called that at one time.

It's not unusual to see a Piper or something similar come down a little to close to the traffic on 21st when a new guy is trying touch and goes. And for that matter, not unusual to see one hanging in the phone wires just north of 21st, or upside down on the side of the road where it was set down because of mechanical problems it experienced and couldn't make the runway.

So far, in 30 some odd years, I don't remember a pilot actually dropping in on someone in East Tulsa for dinner or an unannounced visit. But the Goodyear blimp and a few other notable means of aero engineering have landed there over the years.

October 14 2002 at 15:00:09
Name: Carl Gregory
Email: cgregory@tulsarealtors.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: You are right - I was at Harvey Young today and it is still in operation. They are trying to fix it up since Harvey passed away a few years ago. The runway has asphalt now amd two new hangar areas. Since they closed Northside (only the police helicopter unit and a helicopter repair business across the street remain - the field itself is closed) leaves Harvey Young as the last operating private field in the city. Northside (36th St north), Arvon, 15th Street (15th & Sheridan), Commercial (61st & Yale), Brown (51st & Sheridan), Cherokee (?), and all of the 1920's fields (Curtiss SW Airplane, McIntyre, & others)are all gone. With the 75th anniversary of the airport taking place next year I was interested in running down information on some of those that are no longer there. Thanks for the info from everyone, I really appreciate it.

October 14 2002 at 14:38:49
Name: John Shepelwich
Email: jeshepelwich@aep.com
Location: Richmond, VA
Comments: (re: Mike Bruchas's earlier question) Henry Lile's favored airstrip--at least for KOTV flights during the late 70s--was Harvey Young. I'm not sure if it is still operating, but back then it was a grass field with a few hangars just north of E. 21st St. and east of 129th East Ave. I don't believe it was actually set up as a "commuter" field--but it did seem to me that houses were lined up dangerously close to the runway.

October 14 2002 at 08:18:48
Name: Jim Ruddle
Email: gardel@erols.com
Location: Rye NY
Comments: Frank Morrow and I can attest to the fact that the basement of the Coliseum looked like the catacombs of early Tulsa while the building was still standing. The only thing lacking were the bones of martyrs and some of them were probably there out of sight. Or the bones of old announcers, wrestlers, and hockey players, anyway.

October 14 2002 at 05:26:09
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: LaLa, Norf Caryliner - but Tulsey in my soul
Comments: Which field did Henry Lile fly out of for KOTV? It was out East of town? Henry first told me and others about the "Airmen's Acres" place in East Tulsa - I had heard of such developments before - but Tulsa had at least one such place where houses were clustered around a small strip for "commuting". Does it still exist?

Check out a time-lapse view from Lookout Mountain of this morning's sunrise in Tulsa, courtesy of Channel 8's site.

October 13 2002 at 18:11:19
Name: Chuck Fullhart
Email: cfullhart@aol.com
Location: Near a radio tower
Comments:

I saw Carl Gregory's musings on the old air strips that were in East Tulsa and South Tulsa.

Carl, can't help you much with the 15th & Sheridan strip, but I can tell you that the reason that Urbana from 61st to about 55th Place(running in back of the old Holiday Hills Shopping Center) is so much wider than the average residential street (usually 22-25 feet max.) is because it was the north-south strip for the airport that used to be located there, and just got paved over when it became a residential area.

What about the one that used to located at in the Admiral and Sheridan area? Was that the same one as Tulsa's "stud note" airport that Bill Skelly and several other businessmen set up in the late 20's, or was that on the site of the old airport terminal at Apache and Sheridan?

Also, for years there was one on 81st or 91st and Mingo, about where the TCC campus is now. And it wasn't too many years ago that that was still active.

Mike is probably right, this could lead a lot of different directions

On another question, and it has nothing to do with airports, when they tore down the Coliseum, did they gut the basement, too, or is it still there, and just fill in with the debris? I have heard stories that the basement and the infrastructure were left when they tore it down after the fire, and it was just collapsed on top of it. And that with a little digging, it looks like the catacombs of early Tulsa down there.

Urban legends that pop up at this time of the year, I guess.

October 13 2002 at 15:07:02
Name: Carl Gregory (via email)
Email: cgregory@tulsarealtors.com
Comments: (Not exactly TV, but you never know where it will lead...webmaster)

I am looking for information on the 15th Street airpark located near the Southwest Corner of 15th Street and So Sheridan Road. Other smaller fields were Commercial @ 51st and Yale and Brown across the street from where the Farm Shopping Center is now located. Many people are unaware that Brown Airport started as Garland Airport in the 1920's. If anyone has data on the 15th St airport I would be grateful

October 12 2002 at 21:44:47
Name: David Bagsby
Email: david_bagsby@hotmail.com
Location: Lawrence KS
Comments: Just finished watching the new Kansas DVD, "Device Voice Drum". It's very good and a must for fans of the band. They have some computer animated footage that is really superlative. For some great eyecandy, go to http://animusic.com.

October 12 2002 at 02:39:21
Name: Webmaster
Email: mike@tulsaTVmemories.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: Archived Guestbook 116. We had just talked about the McCartney tour, the little-publicized poster painted by Gailard Sartain for the 2002 Tulsa State Fair, noted Tulsa's inclusion in the current plotline of NBC's "Friends" series, and heard from former anchorman Bob Hower.

FYI, you can backtrack through recent Guestbooks by using the "Archived Guestbook X" link in the bottom entry (like this one) of each Guestbook. Another way to browse is with the Guestbook Archive page (see "GB Archive" link at the top of this page).