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November 04 2004 at 17:16:04
Name: Lowell Burch
Location: Standing in the lottery ticket line
Comments: I used to date a girl way back in the 70's who worked at
the 11th Street T-F. When I stopped for a burger and shake a short while
back, I asked the guys working there if they remembered her. They did. I
remember she often had blisters on her hands from tossing fries into the
hot grease. (There is a loose tie into Channel 2 from this point but too
long to tell here.)
Linda-Mar has been over at 51st and Union at least 35 years. Great burgers,
And, finally, Carl B. did a fantastic job on those old Channel 8 promos.
They are absolutely perfect in every way. They were always more fun to watch
than regular TV. Thanks for putting them on the TTM site.
November 04 2004 at 15:19:53
Name: Steve Bagsby
Location: Bushaun's Dairy Boy
Comments: Yup, the TasteeFreez on 11th is still there and still good.
There's also a place out Southwest called the Linda-Mar that's worth a try.
November 04 2004 at 13:54:17
Name: Roy Lee
Comments: Wow, all it took was a talk on old burger joints to bring
out some good people from my youth! PAULA! Did you ever realize that
telemarketing job we had for that summer was a complete scam?! That sort
of popped into my head about 10 years ago when I drove by...
David Burdick! I remember you.. you were pretty good too as I recall. The
Tastee Freeze guys painted over the sign, sort of. so I guess they are the
place with no name. Still pretty good and they sell obscure right wing newspapers
November 04 2004 at 09:52:20
Name: Robert Kurtz of Beef Baloney (via email)
Comments: Beef Baloney is BACK! This new
show, they're calling Weird TV, is part of MSN video on MSN.com and Robert
is licensing all the old Beef Baloney spices and surprises for the entire
world to experience.
AND - to further the weird, Nathan Gray of Beef Baloney came to L.A. to join
in the fun and now its just like old times, but with more money and bigger
Here's the link:
Once the page loads, click on the "Entertainmant" tab, then on the "Weird
TV" tab and scroll down to see Nathan in the old Blood Balloons segment from
the Beef Baloney Halloween episode.
Robert and Nathan are working together on their own productions for the show,
so we'll keep you informed about those. I hope everything is still great
in T-town and I thank all of our fans and helpers once again for making it
possible. Beef Baloney was the best thing I ever did... so far at least.
Nathan and I are doing fine and having fun with a whole new carton of taboos
to break in a whole new city freak-doe-mites and krunk-a-zoids.
Don't stop trying to make things better,
PS: the more clicks we get, the more money we make. So tell all your friends
and don't be afraid to watch Robert and Nathan's stuff more than once.
November 04 2004 at 06:46:32
Name: Mark Erdwin
Comments: I'm proud to say that I gave Mr. Van Maren a few of those
gray hairs. Congratulations, Tim!
November 02 2004 at 23:44:12
Name: (Emails forwarded by
To all of Renda Broadcasting:
Today is a special day at KBEZ. Today marks the day that Tim Van Maren first
walked into KBEZ as an employee THIRTY years ago!. Now, in an age when radio
keeps printers in business making business cards for new employees, Tims
record is unique.
While still in high school, Tim worked in the office and one day intercepted
a request from the BIG radio station, the AM Rocker KAKC, for a student to
work as a go-fur. Instead of posting the job, Tim answered the request himself,
got the job, and the rest, as they say, is history. During his 30 years with
KBEZ, Tim has worked as continuity director, traffic director, promotions
director, program director and now serves as Operations Manager for our station.
When I first joined KBEZ 14 years ago, I found that any person or system
under Tims control ran like clockwork. He plans, executes and follows
up on assignments. He is in touch with Tulsa. The announcers who work with
him salute his EQ (thats managerial jargon for being able to manage
and motivate people).
Tim has exemplified loyalty and the ability to stick out the hard times with
a persistence and dedication that would rival General Pattons.
It has truly been a privilege to have had Tim on my team during my tenure
here. I hope that you will all join with me in saluting Mr. KBEZ
(as hes known in the community), Tim Van Maren.
Pat Bryson, KBEZ General Manager
It was a chilly day in mid December 1976 when I first walked into my new
job as the overnight guy on KAKC 970 AM in Tulsa, in the Trades Winds West
hotel. I was 25 at the time, and that was when I met a young man, still in
high school or college I believe, who used to come in in the evening to run
the computer print-outs on those old giant printers with the green lined
wide paper. He served both KAKC AM and KAKC FM. From overnights, I moved
to middays, until I left for Jacksonville Florida in 1978. That young man
I met was of course Tim Van Maren!
It is part of what makes this Company special for me...a connection to what
seems a very long time ago.
Incidentally, it was during my tenure there that KAKC-FM took the call letters
Congratulations Tim, from this Renda colleague in Jacksonville!
November 02 2004 at 23:19:42
Name: Joy Cooper
Location: Keeping my head above the rising water (so much rain)
I remember the red poppies in school and the little "care packages" we school
kids created to send to needy youngsters who had no toothpaste, toothbrushes,
soap, etc. Can't for the life of me remember where those boxes were going.
I thought the best burger in Tulsa during my time there was Pete's Hamburgers
on 15th close to Sheridan and Cotton's chicken fried steak sandwiches were
great, too. I'll bet both of those places are history now.
Mike, did you go to the E.C. reunion this summer? Hope all is well in T-town!
I didn't hear about any East Central reunion this year. Maybe in 2006.
Cotton's is still there on Admiral between Memorial and Mingo, in the
heart of weekend flea market action.
Good to hear from you. (Notice I used the more up-to-date photo.)
November 01 2004 at 16:13:05
Location: At my polling place...
Comments: Just a reminder for all registered...vote Tuesday!
We've all seen the polls in the presidental race, and it's very close. Every
vote will count.
Locally, we have huge Senate race to replace Don Nickles, and many important
state questions to decide.
Make your voice heard!
My name is Erick Church, and I approved this message...
Thanks for that non-partisan exhortation. I won't be sorry to see the
last of these political commercials for another two years.
November 01 2004 at 00:53:55
Name: Mike (no-sleep tonight) Bruchas
Location: Balmy DC
Comments: Tangent here - remember as a kid - buying a poppy from a
veterans group in school? I am working overnight news shifts this election
week and tonight all of our UK/Aussie news talent is wearing pin-on poppies
October 31 2004 at 15:54:05
Comments: Del Rancho...I can't for the life of me remember exactly
where it is. I know it's on 11th in an old KFC, if that helps.
Channel 4 LP, which used to be licensed out of Tulsa is now licensed out
of Tahlequah as an ETV for NSU.
October 30 2004 at 23:19:36
Name: Rich Lohman
Comments: I remember Hemi's Pizza quite well. It was withing bike
riding distance from my home at 41st and Garnett. Strangely enough I live
about a half mile south of there now.
Anyone have the address of Del Rancho in Tulsa, by the way?
October 30 2004 at 20:51:37
Location: I can only hope
Comments: Is channel 4 LP still open? I am pushing the school system
to go LP & just kick the cable stuff on to it. (educational) Should be
an easy grant. Some people can't afford cable & TPS could supply education
over the public airwaves. Have you noticed that TPS lost chan. 24? It seems
the original contract is no good anymore. (when I built the studio at Tulsa
Cable in '74) Ever the mess, some people are happy about it since they get
the same pay for one less channel to operate.....if I were an employee I
would probably agree!
October 30 2004 at 16:48:38
Comments: Indeed, KLOT-LP will soon make the switch to Univision.
There is also a constuction permit on file with the FCC in KLOT's name at
channel 45. This may mean a switch to channel 45 to make room for future
improvement in signal without interfering with KOKH-25 in OKC.
Makes you wonder why it took so long for Tulsa to get Univision. Tulsa's
Hispanic population has grown alot in recent years, and that community needs
to be represented in the media.
I've enjoyed KLOT for a number of years. Don't forget, Sam Jones' last Tulsa
TV gig was a short-lived version of his call-in show on KLOT in '97. If I
remember correctly, Gary Shore even appeared on the show a couple of times
to give the forecast before his short stint on ORU's KGEB.
October 29 2004 at 21:03:11
Name: Steve Mindykowski
Location: Tampa Bay, FL
Comments: I've been an occasional visitor on your site, and I find
it interesting. While I've never been to Tulsa, I can relate to some of the
things on your site.
Now, for the real reason why I'm signing your guestbook -- Tulsa will be
getting its first over-the-air Spanish TV station soon. According to the
Fort Myers (FL) News-Press, Equity Broadcasting will be opening several new,
low-powered Univision stations in various cities in the coming weeks, with
Tulsa being one of them.
No mention of channels or calls, but a prime candidate is KLOT-LP Ch. 25,
which currently offers MTV2. The reason why I think it'll appear on that
channel is that Equity has bought MTV2 affiliates in Minneapolis and Detroit
from Viacom for Univision service, so chances are that Univision will appear
in Tulsa on Ch. 25.
Thanks again, and keep up the good work.
KLOT has an interesting history. Nick Beals just passed along to me a
few tapes (alas, in 3/4" tape format) of "Just After Midnight" and "Urban
Almanac", local shows created in the early 90s by Tim Oliver, who started
KLOT in 1997. Nick mentioned the tapes back in
Guestbook 115. A good bit more about KLOT
is in Guestbook 81.
"Dr. Ratt", who did the local and national rock and roll news on JAM,
visited in Guestbook 117. He is Tulsa musician
Romanello's uncle. (Tony and his band deserve more international
October 29 2004 at 11:59:08
Name: Gary Hoff
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Comments: What a fun site you have.
I grew up in Tulsa and knew a number of people in the technical side of
broadcasting because my father, A.L. Hoff, was one of the men who taught
electronics at the old Tulsa Technical College at 7th and Detroit downtown.
When I was 8 I was a featured contestant on the Saturday morning
"Kids Karnival," because of my father's
acquaintance with the man (whose name I've forgotten) who played Kat the
Klown on that show. There was another clown on the show called "Mouse" who
did all kinds of skits with Kat, btw.
And I also know about Ma-Hu Farm because I lived a
block from there in 1960-61 and used to sneak onto the grounds to gawk at
the longhorn cattle and peacocks that the owners kept. We lived so close
you could hear the screams (unnerving to a 13-year-old when heard at midnight!)
of the peacocks.
Last, I had the chance to meet Spanky McFarland once,
during the time he had a kids show of the Little Rascals on local TV. We
had stopped along the road at about 31st and Sheridan right after a B-47
bomber exploded on takeoff from the airport and Spanky himself came over
to our car and greeted me and my brothers and sisters with a jaunty, "Hi,
rascals!" He had stopped, too, to look at wreckage.
Anyway, thanks for a fun site. I'll be back...
Gary, thanks for all the good information.
Here is a timely piece from Frank Morrow: Halloween
in Tulsa, 1940.
October 28 2004 at 19:33:31
Name: David A. Burdick
Location: born in Tulsa...lost in Texas
Comments: My fave meal back when was a drip beef hoagie from "Big
Al's"...that or a pizza from "Hemi's".
Someone may remember me from various rock bands way back when...
October 28 2004 at 16:30:35
Name: A. Nelson
Comments: Do you have any info on your website about Modell Phipps?
I'm trying to find out some of the names of his characters he used in his
commercials. I have a friend who is obsessed with finding out some of the
names of the characters he used.
Do you know where I could find out those names?
I remember Modell Phipps, Lurlene, and "Old Ned"...who else?
Here is Lee
Gideon's picture and obituary on this site.
October 28 2004 at 13:27:50
Location: St Paul-freakin'-Minnesota
Comments: After months of lurking, I had to comment on the burger
thread. Steve's mention of Ma Bell's made me feel incredibly old...but the
mere mention of Weber's almost brought tears to my eyes! I think it may have
even been you, Roy, who introduced me to Weber's during that summer we worked
together at that telemarketing job...
October 27 2004 at 22:13:07
Comments: I believe the Tastee Freez on 11th is still running, but
it's hard to catch it open. Last time I was by, I think a sign indicated
they were under new management.
Talking about great burgers reminds me of The Onion Barrel in OKC. I grew
up just a few block from there. Great stuff.
October 27 2004 at 17:02:02
Name: David Bagsby
Location: Lawrence KS
Comments: Favorite Tulsa burger for me is the Tastee Freeze at 11th
& Yale. Is it still running?
October 27 2004 at 16:25:29
Name: Roy Lee
Location: Burger time!
Comments: Well I haven't had Del Rancho yet but if the Bagsby boys
like it, it's gotta be the real deal! Just got back from Harden's at 4th
and Sheridan. (site of my first date, was a Dairy Queen back then.) Guess
I need to get out of the neighborhood more often!
October 27 2004 at 00:36:18
Comments: Urgent: Does anyone have a picture or sketch of Igor
and Hornstaff, hosts of KOTV's late-night horror movie show of the 50s,
Shock Theater? If so, please let me
October 26 2004 at 16:41:57
Comments: Not more than an hour after seeing the Del Rancho commercial
that prompted my first post about the restaurant, I found out that the owners
of Del Rancho appeared on Good Day Tulsa this morning. While promoting the
restaurant, they gave a on-air demonstration of the double-battering technique
for the Steak Sandwich Supreme.
For my money, Goldie's has one of the best burgers in town (medium well,
please). Hank's on Admiral is also very very good. So is Weber's. Well, let's
just say it's been awhile since I consumed a bad burger.
I tried a Del Rancho this evening. The sweet relish that comes with the
#2 special wasn't to my taste, but otherwise, the double-meat burger was
good, and the fries were hot 'n' tasty.
But before the burger, I went to an Indian (as in Calcutta) concert at
TU. The incredible tabla player, Sandip
Burman, has worked with Bela Fleck and former Weather Report bassist
Victor Bailey. He was featured in Danny Elfman's score to "Mars Attacks!"
Rajeev Taranath is a master sarod
Kelly, a jazz trumpeter from Peoria, Illinois played with mute, making
some of the music sound like Miles Davis meets Ravi Shankar. These musicians
communicated with each other in a near-telepathic way to create an unforgettable
Spotted two Tulsa TV-related people there: Jack
Hobson, who was a KOKI cameraman in the early 80s, and Reed Mathis, the
bassist in Tulsa-bred, nationally-recognized Jacob
Fred Jazz Odyssey. Aside from his rising career in that free-form jazz
outfit, Reed appeared in the hilarious interview segment with Gen. Wesley
Clark on"Beef Baloney", and is the son-in-law of
KWGS' Casey Morgan, organizer of the Tulsa Radio Icons event this year.
East met West at Del Rancho. While ordering and chomping on my burger
(actions es-chewed by Reed and probably the Indian musicians), I listened
to the Indian classical music CD bought at the free show. Ah, life is good.
October 26 2004 at 15:32:39
Name: Dave Harmon
Location: Where the 405 & 110 Collide...until next month!!
Comments: I went to Claude's last month and was disappointed. I still
think Freddie's is the best burger I have ever had...well, since Van's at
15th and Lewis anyways...
October 26 2004 at 09:36:45
Name: Mike ("very sweet cherry lime-ade and a chili footlong")
Location: DC - awaiting long hours on election day
Comments: I spent many a lowly dollar at a Del Rancho in OKC, too.
This weekend - will be in far downstate VA but not more than a 5 minute ride
from a Sonic in the Christiansburg, VA area!
If you drive thru Lynchburg, VA - domain of Jerry Falwell - on both ends
of US Rte 29 - you will have passed not 1 but 2 Sonics. I have thoroughly
brainwashed Virginian friends into MUST-STOPPING at a Sonic weekly.
October 26 2004 at 09:28:59
Name: Steve Bagsby
Location: In the Drive-thru line
Comments: HAIL DEL RANCHO!! Very good food! And if you liked "Ma Bell's",
you can order from your table via telephone (why back in our day, we had
to use semiphore flags!)
October 26 2004 at 09:22:37
Comments: Food tangent...
Del Rancho is open in Tulsa! The name is deceiving, but it is not a Mexican
restaurant. Quite the opposite, it's more a burgers and fries place, but
everything is made to order including the very delicious and totally
un-nutritious Steak Sandwich Supreme.
It's Tulsa's first Del Rancho, but there are several locations in OKC, and
I grew up on the stuff. I haven't had a chance to stop by the Tulsa location
on 11th, but I will ASAP!
October 24 2004 at 14:14:45
Name: Lowell "Boris" Burch
Comments: The producers of the Frankenstein prank had to pick the
right reporter, a nervous fellow who was willing to do the job. And, remember
the setup was that "every 100 years the monster appears". Every 100 years?
That would place the original story at least as early as 1752, right? A more
cynical reporter would have picked up on the prank early on.
I listen to the new classical station
(KWTU, 88.7) much of the
time and recommend it to my students. I really enjoy their selections.
Maybe Lowell "Sherlock" Burch would be more appropriate. Frankenstein:
Or, the Modern Prometheus, published by Mary Shelley in 1818, is widely
considered to be the first true science fiction novel.
October 24 2004 at 00:11:30
Name: Melody Deocampo
Location: Yonkers, NY
Comments: With Halloween coming on, I remember in the not-so-distant
past someone on Tulsa radio doing a Halloween broadcast of an old recording
of something like "Frankenstein's Crypt"??? Or something to that effect.
It was a reporter in a darkened crypt with spooky sound effects and he was
to report on the opening of the crypt? At the end the reporter ended up fainting.
Does anyone remember this and is it still being broadcast or where can I
get a recording of it? I've scoured the net for it with no luck.
I believe KRMG's John Erling still plays it on his show every
Halloween, and has since the late 70s. I taped it around 1980 and just converted
it to RealPlayer for you. A bit of Erling commentary can be heard at the
Carl Nelson was a Armed Forces Network announcer who visited the Frankenstein
castle near Darmstadt, Germany on Halloween night in 1952.
He was already apprehensive as he probed into the crypt under the dark
castle, reporting all the while. He knocked something over, and the resulting
crash sent his heart into his mouth. He was calming himself when he spotted
a grotesque statue in the fading beam of his penlight. He thought he saw
it move slightly. Fearful but still reporting, he forced himself to go up
and touch it. He discovered that it wasn't made of solid material as he had
supposed...and it moved again.
Nelson lost it. Pleading for help and pounding on the locked door, he
It was an elaborate prank that almost backfired; he could easily have
had a heart attack. It is scary to hear this man freaking out for real while
valiantly trying to do his job.
telling of the story (near the bottom of the linked page) by the son
of one of the pranksters, more about the
pictures of it today
(in the daylight).
Real Frankenstein-An Untold Story is a 1995 documentary by David Frost
which includes a visit to the castle.
Hier ist die Burg
Frankenstein web site, auf Deutsch. Here it is
but usably translated into English by Google.
October 22 2004 at 02:12:37
Name: Guy Atchley (via email to Mike Bruchas forwarded to webmaster)
Hello Friends & Neighbors,
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Now for the good news...
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It's available via Pay Pal at
Or just e-mail me and I'll mail you a copy.
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October 19 2004 at 17:42:40
Comments: Mike Bruchas found a page about
Gail Pennybacker at
WJLA in D.C. Gail was a reporter and anchor at KOTV and KTUL in the late
Here's a nice illustrated page about
Terry, veteran Tulsa broadcaster. He has DJ'd over the last 35 years
at KTOW, KMOD, KGTO, KRAV, KKUL and KVOO-AM. Webmaster Derrick tells us that
Ted was cameraman in the early seventies at KOTV for Gailard Sartain, Bill
Pitcock, Lee Woodward, Gary Chew, and Bob Brown. He produced news at KJRH
and hosted local TV programs. He has also worked in radio on both East and
Mr. Terry now works with legendary comedian and civil rights activist
October 17 2004 at 09:50:59
Comments: I was recently in conatct via e-mail with former KJRH chief
meteorologist Gary Shore who currently works for KCAU in Sioux City, Iowa.
He informed me that his "gut hunch" was that he would be back in Tulsa finishing
his TV weather career when the timing was right, and I was free to tell everyone
that info. Wow, good ol' Gary Shore back in Tulsa!!!
October 13 2004 at 18:46:28
Comments: Here is a new group profiled in today's paper:
Young Professionals of Tulsa. They are
not Yuppies. Their stated mission is to rediscover Tulsas "brand",
starting with reviving Nelson's Buffeteria and the
Greenwood Jazz Festival, two worthy and distinctively Tulsa
October 13 2004 at 11:10:51
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: awaiting the storm in DC
Comments: Dick Schmitz is great! You should hear one of his demo tapes!
I met him once many moons ago with the late Bob Lauer at Irving Productions.
Later when I worked at NAB - he did voice-over and narration work for us
and one year was the (taped) announcer for NAB events at the Las Vegas
convention. He and his wife were visiting in DC several years ago and came
by NAB to visit. Everyone who met him - liked him.
He's an icon and a Tulsa treasure! Ditto Ed Dumit and the other honorees!
I was introduced to Carl C. Smith, President of the
Oklahoma Association of Broadcasters, the
only person I've met who has a Tulsa park named after him (Carl C. Smith
Park at 17120 E. 21st St.)
October 13 2004 at 06:15:34
Name: Jim Reid
Comments: Dick Schmitz was my cub scout leader when I was a kid. His
oldest son was a year behind me at St. Marys.
October 13 2004 at 00:43:44
Comments: Phil and Brent from KMOD hilariously emceed the Tulsa
Radio Icons event Tuesday evening at the Tulsa Press Club. The honorees were
Vic Bastien, Ed Brocksmith, Edward Dumit, John Erling, Billy Parker and Dick
Schmitz, with John Henry inducted posthumously. It was a fun evening. Anyone
with pix, please feel free to email them and I will get them out here. Comments
are welcome, too.
English announcer Garry Kemp was right behind me in line, and I thanked
him for his sparkling daily readings on KWGS of Pride and Prejudice,
which as a result became one of my all-time favorite books. He said that
must have been awhile back, and indeed it was: almost 30 years ago!
Billy Parker is looking hale and hearty.
John Wooley paid tribute to John Henry.
I met John Erling and gave him a "business" card.
Dick Schmitz, I know as the father of Tim Schmitz, on whose server this site
resides. I also remember Dick from his days as KAKC
jock in the early 60s. Had a nice extended chat with
Ed Dumit, whose pear-shaped tones can still
be heard regularly on the station IDs of KWGS (and soon, KWTU).
I didn't get to meet Ed Brocksmith or Vic Bastien. Ed reported for KRMG
News for many years, and I've seen Vic announce the Starlight Jazz Concerts
at Skelly Stadium over the years. I still have programs dating back to the
mid-70s. I did met George Kravis (who put the K-R-A-V in
KRAV) and Randy Kindy.
I plan to develop the radio side of this site more in the future. I certainly
have enough material now to start KVOO and KRMG pages, and maybe others.
Congratulations to Casey Morgan and the Tulsa Press Club for putting on
a very successful event, and to all the new Tulsa Radio Icons.
October 12 2004 at 17:19:34
Name: Frank Gutch Jr.
Comments: Anyone have a line on Annie Bell, who sang for Rubbery Cargoe?
Still working on the band's Tulsa years and think it is necessary to get
her take. Any help would be muchly appreciated. Thanks!
October 11 2004 at 17:56:00
Comments: I'm currently listening to the new KWTU 88.7 FM. Funny how
I never really appreciated classical music until I was old enough to sit
down and actually listen to it. It will likely have a welcome home to many
A small correction in the previous guestbook...Oklahoman Michael "Cowboy"
Ellis appeared on CBS' Big Brother 5, not Survivor. I fancy myself a Big
Brother fan. Nothing wrong with watching a bunch of people do absolutely
nothing for months in order to win half a mil.
However, I do believe an Oklahoman appears on this season's edition of Survivor.
Corrected that, thanks. I seem to mix up the names of those two shows,
maybe because they are the two "reality" shows I watch.
They're educational. Frequently, someone (like Adria from BB5) gets a
little taste of power, then not only gets a swelled head, but decides that
the Deity must be pulling for them. I hope He has TiVo if He's watching this
October 11 2004 at 12:29:48
Comments: Archived Guestbook 170, where
we just heard from Jonathan Apple, formerly of KAKC and KELi...
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