Tulsa TV Memories Guestbook 196
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November 11 2005 at 21:37:01
Name: George Tomek
Location: Edmond, OK 73034
Comments: As a 30-year veteran of the Navy Reserve who vividly remembers
the end of WW 2 as a pup when my parents took me down to Chicago's Loop for
the massive celebration, I think Jim Ruddle is right on the money. I think
its also a variation of the old "too many cooks spoil the broth" idea, too.
Tell that to Congress, though, because the mood there over the years has
been to increase some "Days" and create others.
November 11 2005 at 08:07:52
Name: Jim Ruddle
Location: Rye, NY
Comments: We still wear poppies, but on Memorial Day, the equivalent
to Remembrance Day.
Which brings up a small cavil I have with the way things have changed in
Memorial Day is supposed to be a day to honor those who died in service to
the nation, while Veterans' Day is to recognize all those who served in the
armed forces. Now, Veteran's Day has become confused with Memorial Day and
has become a second, and it seems to me, inferior day of memorializing those
who died in service.
Memorial Day apparently began as a tribute by some southern ladies to the
Confederate dead, and was quickly adopted in the North, at first--and for
a long time--called "Decoration Day," referring to the act of decorating
graves with flowers.
Veterans' Day is simply an outgrowth of Armistice Day, commemorating the
end of World War One, which evolved into Veterans' Day because of the millions
who have served the country in all the years following.
Personally, I'd like to see Memorial Day reserved for remembrance of those
who lost their lives in service, and Veterans' Day obsrved, as long as
politicians think it's necessary, to note that millions of Americans have
fulfilled the duty expected of all able-bodied citizens.
November 10 2005 at 23:12:16
Location: Copperas Cove, TX
Comments: I never knew this about Paul Harvey
till recently, but his real name is Paul Harvey Aurand (Aurandt). If you
want, check that out. He is as old as the hills, and his son is in the radio
business too. The Native Tulsan is a real gem of man, too. His name alone
has world recognition.
I also found out that he lost his voice for about 2 months or so in the last
2 years, but came right back to radio.
I also found out that my family history has a link to the Aurand family in
PA from 1790s. My Ancestor Matthias Spees married an Elizabeth Aurand(t).
Spelling is still iffy then as it is now. It is more phonetic that fixed.
Even today people change it to avoid confusion or dis-associate themselves
from someone. Anyone out there named Hitler? I didn't think so...
November 10 2005 at 15:11:52
Name: Kristi Stewart
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Comments: I was just reading in the last guestbook pages where someone
had been reflecting on wearing red poppies for "Veterans" or "Remembrance
Day." I seem to remember wearing them as a kid growing up in Tulsa.
Here in Toronto, you can see the poppies everywhere! Even the news anchors
and reporters wear them on-air.
I think it's a fabulous tradition. Too bad it doesn't happen in the STATES
You can pick them up at local fast food restaurants, fine dining and covenience
stores all across Canada for a small donation. The money goes back to the
It certainly makes you pause and be thankful for the Great Men and Women
who have fought, died and continue to fight for our freedom in North America!
November 10 2005 at 09:04:52
Name: John Young
Location: Work, Work, Work...yuck
Comments: Just saw on Yahoo News that former Tulsan, Paul Harvey,
was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom Award. This is the highest
honor that can go to a civilian. Congrats to Paul Harvey!!
to the article. Paul is listed at the bottom of the page.
November 10 2005 at 00:41:24
Name: John Shepelwich (via email to webmaster)
Comments: Here is a small Donrey billboard posting an "8's The Place"
campaign ad located across the street from the KOTV studio in downtown Tulsa.
It was revised by some revelers from my bachelor party in September 1979.
November 09 2005 at 16:16:19
Name: Dana L.
Location: Broken Arrow
(from Guestbook 195) Steve said:
"Anyone remember in the 70s a radio station had a treasure hunt and would
give out clues on air to find it and people were digging up yards and graves
looking for it? It ended up being at the Ma-Hu mansion across from Oertle's
in the front by the rock fence."
Oh yeah, I remember. Oddly enough I almost found the treasure, which I think
was a 1000 dollars. One of the clues had something to do with 13 guards or
sentinals looking over the treasure. I remember me and my girlfriend figuring
out that it was at Ma-Hu because there were 13 fence posts. We hopped in
her '69 Camaro and hurried over to look for it. When we arrived someone else
was there looking for it too. We were about 10 feet from the other people
when they yelled they found it. It turns out they had seen someone digging
there the week before and put 2 and 2 together. 5 minutes earlier and I would
have found it. I always felt a little screwed on that deal. It was either
in '78 or '79.
November 09 2005 at 15:16:19
Name: Dana L.
Location: Broken Arrow
Comments: I've been meaning to post this for a long time. Remember
the Ma-Hu mansion at 26th and Memorial? Unfortunately
it's long since been torn down and replaced with a housing addition.
In 1978, after vandals and Scream in the Dark had taken its toll on the mansion,
it was torn down. All that remained of the once proud estate was the massive
wall, that I believe enclosed a huge stone barn behind the main house, and
the long stone driveway that led up from Memorial Drive. Fortunately I was
able to rescue some of the rock and use it for landscaping and on the front
porch and entry of the house I used to live at in Tulsa until 2001. With
permission, me and a friend of mine made several rock saving expeditions
to Ma-Hu in the late 80's. We mostly took the rocks that capped the top of
the wall but we also got them from the driveway, around the top of a well
and from the curved entry steps on the south side of the wall. The cool thing
is that we used the curved stones from the south entry on the front porch
of my house. I used to imagine all the people that had walked on those steps
over the years, especially during Ma-Hu's heyday.
From what I've read, a man named Frank Reed, a
stone mason, built the house. From what I saw of his rock work, he was very
good. Every piece of rock we liberated was meticulously placed. Awesome
craftsmenship to say the least. At the time I felt somewhat guilty chipping
away the rocks and removing them from where they had been for so long. Now
that it's all been bulldozed, I'm glad I was able to save even a small part
of Ma-Hu. The person that bought my house has no idea of the origin of the
limestone rocks that adorn the front of the house. Even if I told them, I'm
not sure they would appreciate it like I do. Leaving the rocks behind was
very difficult. I like to think some of the energy from Ma-Hu survives in
If you want to see the surviving Ma-Hu rock, the address is 1544 South 139th
East Ave. It's in the neighborhood just east of Harvey Young Airport.
November 09 2005 at 09:30:06
Name: Margie Tyler aka KC Bishop
Location: Sherman, TX
Comments: I would kill for a Goldie's Hamburger right now!
November 09 2005 at 07:26:41
Name: Jim Ruddle
Location: Rye, NY
Comments: Utica Square was "out in the country" when I was a lad.
Wolferman's was Tulsa's prime purveyor of fine food going back at least to
the mid-forties, but it was situated on 15th Street, just west of the Midland
Valley RR underpass, on the opposite side of the street from the
I, and lots of others, walked to school at Horace Mann along the Midland
Valley tracks to 15th, then down to Cincinnati and on to the red brick holding
pen. In the mornings, it was almost torture to pass Wolferman's because the
on-site bakery perfumed the air with the most tantalizing aromas I've ever
encountered. But Wolferman's was pricey, for those times, and even then
competition from Safeway was hammering the independents.
13 November 08 2005 at 23:34:25
Comments: Go to the Tulsa Press Club & look on the wall where
you find Betty Boyd......you will find a very young edwin behind a GE cam.
less 80lbs. & less 38 years......whata hoot!
November 08 2005 at 23:29:22
Name: I am not a number
Email: edwin around aol
Comments: The PR depart. of TPS sent me to shoot the final voting
thingy tonite about the vote thingy......why in the world would any of the
creatures on this planet shoot news? It was a boring job!...I would rather
put together a package of what happens AFTER the fact.....comments
wanted....since I don't get it...I am, after all, a production person!...not
November 08 2005 at 13:47:14
Name: David Bagsby
Location: Lawrence KS
Comments: I believe that bobcat is a lynx leading us to the 'links'
page. Should have a photo of Link from the Mod Squad.
That's right. Betty Boyd is on the little TV screen, so that's a Tulsa
TV. Beside it is a puzzled-looking lynx who would probably enjoy a tasty
rabbit, but not a TV with rabbit ears. Tulsa TV links. Probably too cryptic
to be a good icon.
November 08 2005 at 13:09:02
Name: Joyce Richardson
Comments: What is the significance of the photo of the bob cat
with the red TV set in the background? It is shown on
Channel Changer 1. It seems vaguely familiar,
but I can't quite place it. Can anyone help me out? Thanks.
November 08 2005 at 10:45:09
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: Remember Wolferman's at Utica Square - later became Petty's
Fine Foods? Wolferman's stayed in business in KC though. They are mailing
out Xmas wishbook catalogs and somehow I got one - seems like their big sellers
are all kinds of exotic English muffins or flavored loaves with jam.
BTW after my first Texaco card at TU in 1972 - I opened a Petty's charge
at Utica Square. When KTUL paychecks were stretched thin - I would go to
Petty's and put milk, bakery and deli stuff on the cuff. $100 was the max
one could charge in the 1970's!
November 08 2005 at 08:49:02
Name: Randolph Merritt
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Comments: I visited Molly Murphy's in 1984 while on tour with Tanner
'84 FreeFare. Better known as 'the band from Florida'; we toured locally
through Kansas and Oklahoma that year.
Like many others I'm sure, I also got escorted to the restroom by The Wench.
I think the '57 Chevy/salad bar in the middle of the restaurant was the focal
point. But that darn 'Bumble Bee' got on my everlasting nerves...lol
A friend pointed out this site to me and I'm thankful to find others who
know what I'm talking about when I mention Molly Murphy's
Now if someone can help me find another establishment that furnishes similar
service (preferably in the Atlanta area) I'll be really happy.
November 08 2005 at 02:46:31
Name: roy lee
Location: the Bible
Comments: Is that some kind of Italian prayer?
More like Italian spam, which I removed.
November 07 2005 at 17:58:24
Name: Wilhelm Murg
Email: wilhelmurg@ yahoo
Location: Back at the Paladora...IN SPACE!
Comments: I was downtown Friday and noticed that the giant metallic
robot somebody put in their yard (14th & Denver) for Halloween is still
up! If you haven't seen it, I recommend you take a look. It will be a question
in these pages thirty years from now.
November 07 2005 at 10:50:43
Location: from inside the padded booth
Comments: Saw where Jim Hartz (Today Show) was back in town this past
weekend for some type of benefit. Still handsome with a great sounding voice.
November 06 2005 at 07:34:01
Name: Moby Anderson
Location: Tulsa, OK
Comments: I was reading about the Coffee Houses of Tulsa and thought
I'd add a note or two.
The Purple Cow was located at approximately 42nd & Peoria (nearer 41st
St., but not on the corner) in an old house that was very colorfully decorated.
The Par Three Trio played for the opening night of the coffee house.
The Par Three Trio (named after the golf course behind the hamburger restaurant
at 51st. & Lewis that is now Goldies) consisted of: Keith Hunt, piano;
Mike (Magoo) McGoffin, drums; J. Martin (Moby) Anderson, bass; and that night
we had David Bartlett, on trumpet. The Par Three Trio Played jazz in and
around Tulsa from 1959 until about 1962.
The opening evening at the Purple Cow was hampered by the lack of a piano!
The piano was supposed to have been delivered but it had not arrived by the
time we were scheduled to play.
Keith just happened to have an ACCORDIAN in his car's trunk. He brought it
into the room (which had pillows all over the floor), laid it flat on the
floor, put his leg through one strap. Then we enlisted volunteers to pump
the accordian while he played it like a piano! We had to change 'pumpers'
often, but that worked unitl the piano arrived! It is one of my favorite
memories of playing music in Tulsa.
Moby, nice to hear from one of the originals. I added your comments to
the Tulsa Coffee Houses page.
November 04 2005 at 17:00:36
Name: Doug Huffman
Comments: I recently heard that Wayne "Tuffy The Tiger" Johnson has
been in bad health. How is the ol' tiger doing? I met him once via a lifelong
friend whose sister was married to Tommy Crook. I have a ton of memories
of times spent at Tommy's house on the westside on South 33rd. The different
people I had the pleasure of meeting and getting to hang out with. But one
of the nicest people I ever got to meet was Wayne. Please let me know how
he is doing.
November 04 2005 at 12:57:10
Comments: Archived Guestbook 195, where
we just heard from Jim Ruddle about TV people missing out on TV content,
illustrated by a meeting with Daniel J. Travanti.
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