Tulsa TV Memories Guestbook 173

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January 01 2005 at 00:11:42
Name: Webmaster
Comments: Just got a couple of nice mentions over at Nolan B. Canova's Pop Culture Review.

I noticed that, in a 2003 rant, columnist Michael A. Smith had expressed an interest in the old General Cinema "Coming Attractions"/"Feature Presentation" jingle with jazzy harpsichord. I sent them a link to it on this site, and both gentlemen were very pleased to hear it.

December 31 2004 at 21:03:26
Name: Jim Reid
Email: jimreid56ataoldotcom
Location: Dallas
Comments: Mike, in my day it was Happy Days at 10:30. I could always relax when I heard Rock Around the Clock because that meant we were out of the morning movie.

December 31 2004 at 20:05:55
Name: Erick
Email: ericktul@yahoo.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: Six years? Wow! I had to be one of the first people to come across this site, as I remember it was nothing more than a page or two. Much like a child, it has grown much too fast.

And, like a parent, I'm sure Mike feels like a proud papa seeing how this little spot on the web has grown.

Here's to many more!

Also, Happy New Year to all. I will be working tomorrow, which is going to seriously curtail my football intake.

Yes, Erick, you arrived in the very first Guestbook, and yes, this site has wildly exceeded my expectations. Thanks to all contributors; you literally make this site.

December 31 2004 at 18:11:53
Name: John Young
Email: johnk662561atyahoodotcom
Location: Home alone on New Years Eve
Comments: Happy birthday TTM! I've enjoyed reading back over the archives and have really enjoyed meeting everyone here!

Good wishes to you all in the coming year!

Thanks, John.

December 31 2004 at 10:55:12
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: DC
Comments: Jim Reid and all - something scary...APTN is feeding upcoming movie trailers...coming in July - "Bewitched" re-make with Nicole Kidman and Will Ferrell as hubby Darren! Same music and sound effects as the original!

In my days at KTUL - "Bewitched" for years - was the first ABC network show - Mon.-Fri. at 10:30am. Forever when I hear the theme - I will flash back to Tuma doing the live KTUL i.d. with "...It's 10:30...", as we "took the net"!

December 31 2004 at 09:09:21
Name: Jim Reid
Email: jimreid56ataoldotcom
Location: Dallas
Comments: Mike, it was KTUL that did the Marx Bros all-nighter on New Years. I remember staying up all night for that one.

December 31 2004 at 07:26:14
Name: Mike (dayshift AM DC) Bruchas
Location: quiet DC - too many folks on a second FIVE day weekend...
Comments: Sitting here at 8am - watching an APTN feed of New Years' fireworks over Sydney Australia Harbor from earlier today - fannnnnnntastic. Makes NYC look wimpy! No Dick Clark this year, but I am so old I remember his first New Year's Rockin' Eve on KTUL. And I remember NBC's Midnight Special way back when going live on New Year's Eve. I hate it when VH1 or other channels NOW pre-tape concerts for New Years and fake the stroke of midnight in a studio!

For us oldsters - it was NOT officially the New Year till Guy Lombardo and the Royal Canadians "played it in".

Growing up in Chicago - one of the stations - WLS or WGN - used to do an all night Marx Brothers movie marathon AFTER Chicago celebrated 12am. Didn't one of the stations in Tulsa try this at one time, too? WFMT radio in Chicago used also go live or raid its archives for their Midnight Special all night radio show on New Year's night - often dragging out old discs with Mike Nichols(!) stuff on it from before his days as a comedian. (WFMT starts tonight's broadcast at 8pm!).

However you end the old year and start the the NEW - be safe! Best wishes!

December 29 2004 at 22:47:31
Name: Gary Chew
Email: garychew[at]comcast[dot]net
Location: Arnoldstadt, formerly known as Sacramento

Happy Birthday to you.
Happy Birthday to you.
Happy Birrrrrthhhdaaaayyyyy dear TulsaTVMemories.
Happy Birthday to you.

And kudos, whatever that means, to His Royal Webmasterness, Mike Ransom for making it all so totally TULSA, my old home town.

December 29 2004 at 21:30:25
Name: John Hillis
Location: Egg on Face, Va.
Comments: Yes, I know it's six years. It's just that my birthday is the day before TTM's and I don't want to admit I'm a year older, even if the site don't care.

December 29 2004 at 21:24:46
Name: John Hillis
Location: Western East Virginia looking at Eastern West Virginia
Comments: I remember (and when you get my age, that's an accomplishment) one of my first reactions to TTM lo those many years ago: "Sheesh! What a devilish time waster!" Five years and a few million burned-out brain cells later, I still feel the same way.

Congrats to Mike Ransom for having the "stickiness" (there's a good Internet word) to keep the doors open for all of us to spill our old legends, lies, and the occasional fish story. As Johnny Martin would surely say from that great air studio announce booth up yonder, "Thanks for the use of the hall."

You're welcome, John. Quite a few of the questions posed on the linked page (Guestbook 7) have been answered. I have severely curtailed my use of the exclamation point since then, too.

December 29 2004 at 13:24:42
Name: Webmaster via Greg Leslie
Location: OKC TV newsSteve Neumann
Comments: Steve Neumann, son of the late Howard Neumann of OKC TV, passed away on Christmas morning due to pulmonary problems associated with sleep apnea. He was 54.

While a senior in college, he began working at WKY-TV (now KFOR) as a reporter, noting recently that his first big story was about a giant radish. He worked in TV news at Channel 4 for fifteen years, where he produced and hosted public affairs programs, as well as the acclaimed weekly "Saturday Magazine."

Steve also served as adjunct professor of speech and media for OU, OSU, and SNU.

As a college student, Steve filmed for the OU football coach's TV show, produced and hosted by his father, Howard Neumann, who hosted OU shows going back to the Bud Wilkinson days. He later hosted and produced both the OU football and basketball coaches' shows through his company, Steve Neumann Productions, which also produced "Discover Oklahoma" for the Oklahoma Tourism Commission.

While maintaining his freelance business, Steve served as Director of Athletic Broadcasting at OU for several years, under both Steve Owens and Joe Castiglione. At the time of his death, he worked for Daktronics, the world leader in sports scoreboards.

Full obituary and guestbook at NewsOK.com

December 29 2004 at 12:03:49
Name: David Bagsby
Email: dcbatsunflower.com
Location: Lawrence, KS
Comments: 'Ello, I'm Timothy. Happy Birthday TTM. Enjoy a shopping spree at Otasco's Toyland!

Wish we had one of those "Timothy" spots for OTASCO. We do have the OTASCO Christmas jingle, though.

December 29 2004 at 10:40:07
Name: Chris Hendricks
Email: hal84ch@cs.com
Location: Still in Tulsa
Comments: Happy Birthday to Tulsa TV Memories! Mike, you have a fantastic website. Keep it up! I promise I'll have that underground radio story for you soon.

OK, you'd better, or you'll be getting another crank call.

December 29 2004 at 07:40:44
Name: Sonny Hollingshead
Location: Toasting A Birthday
Comments: To Mike Ransom:

On the sixth anniversary of the start of Tulsa TV Memories, thank you so much for giving us the forum to recollect and reconnect.

Here's to you!

A toast   And to all TTM readers and contributors. My pleasure.

December 28 2004 at 19:27:33
Name: Randy Kindy
Email: rkindy@mac.com
Location: Penthouse Suite, Portofino
Comments: In answer to Dave's question about the razing of the U.S. Jaycees building, here's the story: Coury Properties bought the property (as well as the Shriners building just east of there) to build Portofino, an extremely high-dollar, high-rise condo. There was lots of publicity about the place. Then the economy tanked and those plans were quietly abandoned.

I was well acquainted with the Jaycees building, which was the national headquarters. I worked there for a number of years -- first as public relations manager and then for several years doing a/v services and video editing.

The Jaycees organization has been shrinking steadily for decades. The staff, which numbered about 75 when I first worked there, was down to probably less than 20 when the offer came in. The building's plant systems were in need of replacement, a number of other expensive repairs and updates were needed, and they just didn't need that much space any more to run the organization, so it was an offer they couldn't refuse. The Jaycees constructed a new national headquarters building on South Lewis (just north of ORU) which looks just like a branch bank.

December 28 2004 at 17:23:13
Name: Bill Groves
Email: danofan59@yahoo.com
Location: Tarzana
Comments: Re: "Casablanca" with David Soul

It actually ran about a half-season, I believe. This was the second effort by WB to turn "Casablanca" into a series, the first (starring Charles McGraw) having been one of three rotating installments of "Warner Bros. Presents," the very first WB series ever, in 1955. All three segments were based on successful WB features. Of the three, the only one to survive as its own series was "Cheyenne" ("Kings Row" being the third).

Here is more about Warner Bros. Presents.

Casablanca (Two-Disc Special Edition) includes the premier episode of that 1955 TV series.

December 28 2004 at 13:37:39
Name: Dave
Location: by the bridge
Comments: OK, I'm behind the curve on this one but I visit Tulsa only every few months and I missed this one earlier.

I was by 21st and Boulder and saw that the U.S. Jaycees building has been torn down. It's just a graded plat of dirt with signs announcing that nine homes will be build on the lot. I knew the Jaycees had moved to another part of town, but I would have thought someone would want to buy and use a magnificent architectural gem such as the Jaycees building. Too bad.

For that matter, the old Oral Roberts building down the street still has a For Sale sign up. It looks pretty sad on the outside and I'd be scared to think what it may be like inside by now. I hope the south part of downtown can experience some renaissance sooner than later as the north part is now doing.

December 28 2004 at 11:54:48
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: Man - am I trippin' - AP has moved a story on that "Jerry Springer - The Opera" show now in London -- it will be televised on the BBC there. Meaning soon it may be on BBC America here. Guess who plays Springer?

David Soul of "Starsky and Hutch" fame. Earlier this year - he played a possessive, arrogant symphony conductor on "Law & Order - SVU" episode. I recognized the voice but he has become a chameleon in his charactor roles.

Do you remember a time after Starsky when he was "Rick" at Rick's Cafe Amercaine on ABC. The network tried to resurrect "Casablanca" as a series and I think only did a pilot.

December 24 2004 at 16:17:33
Name: Steve Mindykowski
Location: Tampa Bay, FL
Comments: Today (12/24), I saw Richard West, director of the Smithsonian's National Museum of the American Indian, give a speech on C-Span, in a replay of the museum's dedication from 9/21. Is he the same "Dick West" who signed The Lord's Prayer at KTUL's sign-off?

No, our Dick West is deceased. You can read more about him and see his KTUL signoff on the 8's The Place page.

December 24 2004 at 10:24:26
Name: Mike Miller (by permission, via email to webmaster)
Location: Ho-Ho-Houston
Comments: The only part that rings a bell with me is Jose's Hideaway. I do know there was a high class call girl operation off Riverside Drive during the 70s.

I have a mention of it in my still unpublished book:

Mike Miller

Alcohol was not the only vice offered to Tulsa newsmen by flacks. At an informal news conference at the Tulsa Press Club announcing a big drag racing event, the promoter handed out a card with a call girl’s phone number. "I had a budget to promote this event," he said. "I put the money where I figure it would do the most good, between a beautiful hooker's legs. Give her this card and services are free." As far as I could determine, seven or eight business cards were later exchanged for sex in the racy promotion: "These street cars were named desire."

This was all I had in the book. Apparently I was careful not to incriminate the author. Those of us who were lucky enough to have landed a business card that night would certainly agree that the promoter used his budget wisely. That racing program got a ton of publicity.

The girl's apartment was just off Riverside Drive. And she was gorgeous.


New! (12/28)  I became acquainted with the May Rooms after covering a robbery there. I tried for years to get an exclusive interview with the Madam there. Pauline Lambert used to tell me some of Tulsa's most prominent families had daughters that worked for her. She was so interesting, but wouldn't talk on film. Bob Gregory met her once and called her "Madam." It was funny because he called every woman "Madam."

December 23 2004 at 19:36:25
Name: J.T. (via email to webmaster)
Email: rashlingo at yahoo dot com
Comments: Hello-

My name is Joe Tanner. I'm currently working on an autobio and research led to your site. As an adolescent and the son of one of the highest earners there, I was employed at Rideshy. I mowed the lawns of the various houses, tended bar at Bud Holt's private residence, etc. - flunky, gofer, call it what you will.

I'm now 42 and trying to make sense of many things, not least of them being memories of the people and events at Rideshy and my time in Tulsa. My uncle was a local musician named Lynn Tanner. He played at Jose's Hideaway and the Filling Station, among other places.

Any help you can offer wouild be greatly appreciated. Any persons with perspectives on the place and/or people, please contact me. Thank you.

It was previously noted in Guestbook 89 that dialing RIDESHY (an old RIverside exchange number) in the 1960s/early 70s would connect you with a brothel.

I've learned from a reliable source that the final location of RIDESHY was near the old 33/66 junction in Wagoner County, where it made its last (one-night) stand before being put out of business around 1975 by the sheriff in those parts. Bud Holt was a product of the "Cheyenne Club" downtown, and spent a good bit of time at the Avalon Steak House in west Tulsa.

The Filling Station was in the same building on the southwest corner of 15th & Peoria as the Empire Bar today. Any more help out there?

From a 1971 Gulf Tourgide Map. East is Dan P. Holmes' nemesis: Hwy 33 (Hwy 412 today).
From 1971 Gulf Tourgide Map

December 23 2004 at 16:16:47
Name: Erick
Email: ericktul@yahoo.com
Location: Just east of Brrrrrrrrrrookside
Comments: Passed thru downtown this afternoon. Looks like Nelson's has reopened, or at least something in its place...it's now called the Downtown Buffeteria.

December 23 2004 at 09:01:20
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: Happy holidays, folks - stay happy and snow free with your loved ones! For those of you working Xmas Eve or Xmas Day - as the late and missed Gene Tincher used to say, "Roll 'em when you get 'em!"...

December 22 2004 at 21:56:41
Name: Webmaster
Comments: This site will celebrate its sixth birthday on 12/29. That's pretty danged old in internet years (maybe a future site will be called Tulsa TV Memories Memories). But it's still a lot of fun to do, and I'm sure I'll be doing it for a long time to come.

Here's a look back at the first What's New page.

Below: a site of New Year's celebration in the 70s: Cardo's Cadillac.

Cardo's Cadillac; B.Y.O.L.=Bring Your Own Liquor

December 22 2004 at 17:17:33
Name: Frank Morrow
Email: frankmor@io.com
Location: Austin
Comments: I had never seen anyone freeze on camera or on mike until one day in 1955 during that half-hour TV program which TU students produced weekly. It was a Christmas program and the Kappa Sigma octet was singing as part of the show.

We had formed the octet mainly to entertain on campus. But, we also cruised the rich neighborhoods during the Christmas season, looking for a house that had lots of cars out front, indicating a party was in progress. We would stop, go onto the front yard, and start singing. People inside would hear us and invite us in for food and drinks. The producer of the TV show had heard us singing on campus and invited us to perform on their TV show.

Dave Hindman, who had lots of experience in radio but none in TV, was the announcer/host. After we sang, Dave was to announce the next part of the program. He had done fine up until then, but something happened. He froze. The stage manager whispered to the octet to sing some more. So we repeated "White Christmas" while Dave recovered.

Dave, my former roommate, went on to a fine career in radio and TV on WKY in Oklahoma City either before or after he joined the Navy. I lost track of him after he got out of the service.

December 22 2004 at 10:29:49
Name: Ken Ragsdale
Email: Ragsdaleandassoc@aol.com
Location: Oklahoma City
Comments: Merry Christmas to all my friends and associates who frequent this terrific site. I pop in 2-to-3 times weekly and enjoy keeping up on on both memories and current news. Thanks, Webmaster.

You're welcome, sir, and a Merry Christmas to you.

December 21 2004 at 13:29:02
Name: Roy Dieterlen
Email: colonelmarvel@yahoo.com
Location: San Antonio
Comments: I am sorry it took me so long to find this site. In the mid to late 50's, I was cameraman at both Channel 2 and Channel 6.

In those days, 6 was much more professional but not near as much fun. Oh! the tales I won't tell. However, I can say that I ran camera on Lee Woodward's audition and I was the one who put vodka (from a bootlegger) in Uncle Hiram's 7-up cup on live TV. Never missing a beat, he smacked his lips and asked for more.

Uncle Hiram Safety Club

Welcome, Roy! Is that you in this photo of the first telethon in Tulsa?

Roy responded:

I remember everyone in that picture. Television then was all live and wild. We did some of the worst TV, but everyone worked very hard.

We did a Saturday night live remote of the Leon McAuliffe dance at the Cimarron Ballroom. Ellison Stambaugh, who was the best director in town, did the show. One Saturday night we were 5 minutes late going on the air because the ladies at the dance had us occupied up in the balcony where the cameras were. Ellison would have killed us but he was 3 floors away. I hid from him for a week.

If you have questions about names, I remember almost all of the production people at both stations.

By the way I worked with Mr. Gomi. Your readers might be interested to know that TU drama classes did some shows on KVOO. One name I remember was Edie Rue McClanahan. You know how she is known today. (The link shows a couple of TU pics of Ms. McClanahan with Frank Morrow...webmaster)

December 21 2004 at 11:57:39
Name: Webmaster
Location: on the edge of my seat

Here is an item I'm sure you won't find anywhere else: a KOTV brochure for the 1963-65 drama anthology, "Suspense Theatre" (courtesy of Chris Sloan). The theme was written by Johnny Williams (later known as John Williams of movie fame, and piano player on Mancini's "Dreamsville", a tune with Tulsa and OKC TV significance.) The IMDb listing shows that many future movie directors, such as Robert Altman and Irvin Kershner, worked on the show.

The ad touts all color episodes, but I don't believe KOTV broadcasted in color until 1965. And according to TV Tome, "Suspense Theatre" was originally an NBC show, so this must have been a later, syndicated run.

The episode "Rapture at Two-Forty" was the pilot for an excellent 1965-68 dramatic series, "Run For Your Life", starring Ben Gazzara (for younger readers, he played the slimy villain in the ludicrous but entertaining Patrick Swayze epic, "Road House", a film revered by MST3K's Michael J. Nelson). "Run For Your Life" was previously mentioned in Guestbooks 34 and 77, where you can hear the opening.

How many of the stars can you name? Give yourself the quiz, then rest your cursor on each face to see the ID. There is only one I don't recognize. Maybe someone can help out on that one. (Later: thanks for the ID from Wes Clark of Avocado Memories, a site that influenced the creation of this one.)

Milton Berle Robert Goulet (worked with Triumph, The Insult Comic Dog in 2001) Anne Francis ('Forbidden Planet',1956; 'Honey West', 1965) Gena Rowlands Ben Gazzara Sal Mineo (ID'd by Wes Clark of 'Avocado Memories') Mickey Rooney Diana Hyland (who later dated John Travolta) John Gavin (was under consideration to play James Bond in 'Diamonds Are Forever')

"Rapture at Two-Forty"

December 20 2004 at 16:56:02
Name: Erick
Email: ericktul@yahoo.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: While Christmas shopping today, I picked myself up a copy of UHF on DVD. I think the audio commentary by Weird Al has been mentioned here before, and it clears up nearly all of the questions of where certain scenes were filmed.

I noticed something I never saw before. In the scene with Fran Drescher and Billy Barty outside of "City Hall", you can see KTUL's NewsStar 8 satellite truck parked on 10th Street.

Happy Holidays!

December 20 2004 at 16:48:55
Name: Robert Walker
Location: MIA, FLA
Comments: Didn't Daylight Donuts used to be Sandy's? Or did that Sandy's become some other fastfoodjoint later?

I believe the Daylight Donuts pictured originally was a burger drive-in like Miller's or Boots...I just can't remember which. I don't remember Sandy's having that Sonic-style drive-up; it was more like a McDonald's clone, I think.

December 19 2004 at 18:24:07
Name: Webmaster
Comments: Tulsa photo essays from "The Holy Rolling Photoblog of Dr. Omed":

A Stroll at the 2004 Tulsa State Fair.

The Return of Dr. Omed's Patented Sunset Derby. Like it says, lots of Tulsa sunset scenes.

Scenic Tulsa: Signs Of Other Times. The Meadow Gold sign, Jim's Coney Island...which burger drive-in did that Daylight Donuts on Yale near the Celebrity Club used to be?

December 17 2004 at 00:47:01
Name: Webmaster
Comments: Yellow Pad Inc. has produced a 2005 calendar of special interest to TTM readers: Tulsa's Olde Movie Theatres.

In it: the starry ceiling at the Ritz, the statues at the Orpheum, the wall decorations at the Will Rogers, the pipe organs, the interior of the Ritz in 1927, the Majestic in 1918, the Circle in 1934, Third Street in front of the Rialto in 1937, the Ritz neon sign, locations of all the theatres from Tulsa's past, and the biggest parade in Tulsa history (for the world premiere of the 1949 movie, "Tulsa").

In addition to the theatres, there's a brief background on thirty-one Tulsans who are, or have been, connected with the movie industry.

OU/OSU nostalgic almanac/football calendars are also available for 2005.

These items are available at the offices of Yellow Pad on Main Street in downtown Tulsa and they can also be ordered online at YellowPadInc.com.

(Also noted on the Bulletin Board.)

December 16 2004 at 09:43:07
Name: Webmaster
Comments: For some reason, I just recalled that KWGS signed off in the late 70s with Don Menza's tune, "Time Out", performed by Buddy Rich's big band on the album, Wham! It was hard to get to sleep after that high-energy performance. Maybe Mr. Chew introduced that one to the collection.

December 15 2004 at 23:22:57
Name: Jim Reid
Email: jimreid56ataoldotcom
Location: Dallas
Comments: I really miss the old days running movies at Channel 8.

The station had bought a package of B&W movies pretty cheaply. The movies were not made in B&W, but we didn't pay for the color rights. Most of the time we'd get a B&W print of a color movie, but sometimes we'd get a color print with a note from Euell to run it in B&W. I was a little rebellious and used to run them in color anyway. I never heard from anyone about it.

One night I got a print of the John Wayne film "The War Wagon" with a note to run it in B&W. I ignored the instructions like usual and ran it in color. Unfortunately, when I got to reels 2 & 3, they were actually in B&W. All I could do was run the film that way and answer the hundred or so phone calls that I got from angry viewers.

December 13 2004 at 11:40:57
Name: Webmaster
Location: Back in Tulsa
Comments: Archived Guestbook 172.

Just got back from a Caribbean cruise. I checked in on the site from Soapy's Internet Station in St. Thomas, Virgin Islands on 12/9, and found TTM unavailable (except for the Guestbook). I was able to fix it from there. Looks like the site went off the air sometime on Tuesday 12/7. Sorry for the suspense.

I went back and added comments to some of the entries made in Guestbook 172 while I was away.

The OTASCO Christmas jingle was mentioned. Wilhelm and others weighed in on Rob's Records, a used record store near 15th & Memorial. Skitch Henderson, former "Tonight Show" bandleader and Tulsa Philharmonic conductor, was discussed. Local food topics chewed over included Tastee-Freez on 11th & Yale, the IHOP near Utica Square, S&J Oyster Company on Brookside (now closed), the Steak 'N' Shake at 62nd & Memorial (soon open), and Kitty Clover Potato Chips.

I came into some U-Matic professional video tapes made by Dirty Butter Creek Gang Productions in the early 90s, possibly including some old late night ads for Christina's International Introductions. It was a Tulsa-based marriage agency with videos of potential brides from South America. Thanks to Edwin, I now have a player that can handle these tapes (after a visit to Radio Shack).

We heard from Tulsa TV veterans Rich Laudon and Dick Enderwood for the first time. We learned that Dr. Billy James Hargis, colorful and controversial Tulsa-based televangelist of the 60s and 70s, passed away. He was probably a partial inspiration for Mazeppa's character Rev. Dr. Menleaux Park (seen on the Lost Tapes of Mazeppa, Vol. 1, now available on DVD; a good Xmas gift idea).

There was much more besides, so check out Guestbook 172 at your leisure.

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