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January 07 2006 at 22:07:38
Name: Webmaster
Location: T-town
Comments: Just caught a show on the Food Channel (Cox 58), "Paula Goes to Hollywood". It's about chef Paula Deen's participation in the recent movie, "Elizabethtown", which also starred Gailard Sartain as an undertaker and was reviewed here by Gary Chew. Mr. S. can be seen several times during the show.

If you would like to take a look, it's on again 1/8 at 1 am, 1/14 at 4 pm, and 1/15 at 3 pm.

"Elizabethtown" will be released on DVD next month.

January 07 2006 at 13:44:50
Name: si hawk
Email: sihawk@bokf.com
Location: T-Town
Comments: Regarding the issues of fitness/fatness of Tulsa as reported in some national magazines, I am reminded of some wisdom relayed to me during my youth, "Believe nothing you read and only half of what you see." That's good working journalistic advise but does little for the ego of those of us who make or made our livings by reporting.

January 07 2006 at 13:07:33
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: chillin' in DC
Comments: Going back almost 35 years - I attended school with Frank Phillips - one of the diverse and large Phillips clan related to Frank and Waite Phillips. Frank was a little older than most us - there was rumor that he had been to Vietnam but no one really knew.

He lived in the dorm for a while but rumor was that his Mom had a mansion somewhere on the South Side of Tulsey. Frank claimed that his family owned Turkey Mountain and often went there to commune with nature and hide out, but Frank also had this habit of strolling the TU campus smoking cannabis in his Dr. Grabow drugstore pipe - oblivious to others! He also had a great looking violin - that he played in an almost Inspector Clouseau manner!

Always wonder where Frank ended up! Maybe he's in a lean-to on Turkey Mountain - happy as a clam!

January 07 2006 at 12:28:05
Name: David Bagsby
Email: dcbatsunflower.com
Location: Lawrence KS
Comments: If it had been filmed in Tulsa, it would have been called "Turkey Mountain".

January 07 2006 at 08:41:31
Name: Wilhelm Murg
Email: wilhelmurg@ yahoo dot com
Location: Batcave

I saw the need for a few comments here and there.

1. Susan Cowsill actually sang back-up for Dwight Twilley at The Venue a few months ago, the performance was recorded for a future DVD release. (The Cowsill's "Mister Flynn" is one of my all-time favorite paisley-gum/sunshine popadelic records ever recorded).

2. The Batman movie (or "Batman: The Movie" as it's called on video) was actually filmed between seasons 1 & 2 of the TV show. If I remember the DVD commentary correctly (and the DVD is available for a retail price of $6 at most finer video stores) the movie was supposed to be a pilot for the show, but somehow it was picked up without a pilot, thus the film actually became a cash-in for the studio.

3. I made an accidental "Brokeback Mountain" joke the other day, I called it "Bareback Mountain." "Bareback" is a term used in marketing for pre-AIDS (ergo, pre-condom) gay pornography. I'll let you all use your imagination.

Isn't it amazing that one can learn such things by browsing eBay?

I saw Mayo Meadow is caged up, ready for demolition. What's next? Are they going to bulldoze Boston Avenue Church so we can have access to another Office Depo?

Gary Chew just reviewed "Brokeback Mountain" on this site.

January 06 2006 at 11:38:39
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: Re DAVID BANKS - whooee! Dave did the same drill Don Lundy & 1 went thru at 8 -- projectionist/studio cam op before our bump-ups to directors there. But Dave - too - had worked on Mazeppa shows as a cam op. I had forgotten that Dave had spent time at KJRH after 8. I can remember going out to see him as "the TV guy" at Claremore Junior College before he went to 2. That was loooong before KRSC came along.

January 06 2006 at 11:11:48
Name: Lowell Burch
Location: Buffet line at Mazzio's
Comments: PS I see today that Tulsa jumped from the 22nd most fattest city to the 14th most fit city in one year! Good job, folks! Just keep eating those Coneys and Ron's while watching the TV and we may make it to number one!

In Guestbook 136, I had noted that in 2001, Tulsa was 11th on the "Men's Fitness" magazine list of "America's fattest cities", but by 2003, Tulsa had lept into the 25th fittest position.

2001-fat...2003-fit...2004-fat...2005-fit. People, we have to stop the ping-pong dieting!

January 06 2006 at 11:02:50
Name: Lowell Burch
Email: lburch3atcoxdotnet
Location: Lighting the flame on top the Prayer Tower
Comments: That is sad about Barry Cowsill. His brother, Billy, used to play in Gary Lewis' band, Medicine, here in Tulsa and Mazeppa had the band on his show a time or two. Cowsill sis, Susan, and family were displaced by Katrina, too, and I understand they are here in Tulsa, Dwight and Jan Twilley being their hosts. The Cowsills were good singers and they were the inspiration for The Partridge Family.

I heard Shirley Jones speak on one of her visits to Tulsa and she said that despite all of the major roles she played in the movies and on Broadway that people most remember her for being Mom Partridge.

I saw Lou Rawls perform here a couple of years ago and he was still in top form. He told the audience that his goal was to help keep pop music legit. I think he did his part.

January 06 2006 at 10:49:24
Name: Wanda Baker
Email: wandakbaker@gmail.com
Location: The Southwest Airlines terminal in Phoenix, bouncing between Tulsa and Scottsdale
Comments: As I've read the guestbook posts from the last several years, it's been obvious that many of you are very knowledgeable about radio equipment. If anyone on this site knows about wireless networks and would be willing to spend some time talking to me about it, please contact me at the e-mail address above. I'm currently involved in using donated hardware to create a network that will provide computers and safe, secure, free internet access to the homes of a group of children in north Tulsa who participate in an educational program sponsored by PC Power.

January 06 2006 at 08:59:10
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: Here's a "cultural jolt" - Barry Cowsill, a member of the popular 1960s singing family, The Cowsills, was found dead on a wharf in New Orleans nearly four months after he disappeared when Hurricane Katrina flooded that city. He was 51.

I had forgotten all about The Cowsills but I guess TVLand has had them on in recent years...

Another death reported this morning - of cancer - velvet-voiced Lou Rawls - who had a variety of shows on TV in the 70's and 80's besides his being the long-running star/host of the United Negro College Fund telethons. What a "set of pipes"!

January 05 2006 at 22:53:05
Name: Jim Reid creditJim Reid
Location: Dallas
Comments: Dylan, I don't remember exactly when that was, but I'd guess it was '78 or '79.

On a Sunday afternoon, I think it was, a garbage truck at the station was doing what garbage trucks do when it accidently backed into a power pole, knocking out power for the whole station. We had color bars on the air from the transmitter for quite a while.

They decided to do sort of a newscast, so the remote truck was powered up with its generator. They pulled an old news desk out of the prop room and did the whole thing outside. They used a live truck and microwaved it to the transmitter in Coweta.

I think the talent was Guy Atchley, Mary Rose, Dan Murphy doing weather and Carl Arky doing sports. News and sports was pretty much just ripping and reading wire copy. When they threw it to Dan for weather, he just looked over his shoulder and said "looks good to me, back to you, Guy".

I had forgotten all about that day. Mary Rose used to record all her newscasts at home on 3/4" tape, so there used to be a copy of it floating around.

Guy Atchley on moving day
Guy Atchley on moving day, courtesy of Mike Bruchas

January 05 2006 at 21:50:06
Name: LeeLee Woodward
Location: Patches Okla.
Comments: I used the locale (Patches, Okla.) last week to denote the fact that our streets are just that. That brings up the query about KOTV's "Chug Hole of The Week." This very popular KOTV news insert is what got its host, ABC's Bob Brown, his leg up into the Dallas market, where he did the same thing I understand. Then on to the ABC Network and 20/20 and all those great interviews and feature stories he does. "From small chugs, big holes grow."

January 05 2006 at 20:42:51
Name: dylan
Location: Seattle
Comments: Since I pop in here with random questions...

Sometime back in the late 70s or very early 80s (I'm not sure of the date; I would say between 1978 and 1983) I was watching KTUL when the Sunday 5pm news came on. And there was Bob Hower and Co. broadcasting from the news desk... outside. Under a tree, I seem to recall, but with the news desk and everyone around it. It seemed very improvised, like they had to broadcast outside due to some extenuating circumstance. The audio was poor, and it really seemed like they were non-plussed by the whole outside broadcast.

Anyone remember this, or am I imagining this? Any KTUL alums who can shed light on this?

January 05 2006 at 17:43:55
Name: Joyce Richardson
Comments: I LOVED Chug hole of the week! Wasn't there one where they put a grand piano in the hole and some guy in a tux played it?

January 05 2006 at 16:17:43
Name: Steve Bagsby
Location: Bib Overall Rack at "Harold's Everything Store"
Comments: "CHUG HOLE OF THE WEEK!" Anyone remember this segment on the KOTV News?

January 05 2006 at 13:17:24
Name: Dave Banks
Email: dave@eyeconic.org
Location: Los Angeles, California
Comments: What a great site and great memories! I am a KTUL-TV and KVOO-TV alumni and I would not be where I am today if not for the experiences in Tulsa. A special thanks to Bob Gregory who at the time may not have realize it but he was my mentor. I look forward to spending more time down memory lane and hopefully making contact with old friends.

January 05 2006 at 08:44:14
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: foggy DC
Comments: This will sound long-winded, but to steal a phrase from The Godfather - "you had to make your bones" at work, in other words learn your CRAFT (no matter what you did or do now!).

College taught me a lot but my first week at KTUL and my first screw-ups on-air when learning my craft - taught me more.

Especially writing up requests for SPOT make-goods after rolling wrong spots in a break, up-cutting a spot when switching or airing a wrong slide in the many (then) live slide/audio cart or live announced spots. Yeah - the more screw-ups that one had as a trainee - which hurt KTUL spot dollars or caused make-goods - the faster it came down from Sales and Traffic, to NOT do that! It all came down to money - do your job and HAVE a job - be irresponsible, mess-up on-air (especially in Prime Time spot breaks or local News) and there are 5 guys and gals lined up WANTING your job. And we did this (in 1972) for $2.25 an hour plus overtime, no health insurance except disability and the rumor of a pension plan that later went away! It was a "glamourous TV job".

I think today - newbies don't carry a "burden" of what work is often about or their intended role in a production team/workplace. It's that "seeing the BIG picture" thang!

I had some good mentors and great co-workers at KTUL in the 1970's. You were allowed to have your opinions there - but you had to prove yourself as a journeyman TV pro to have respect or them "older fellers" would cut you to the quick! Lord help you if all you had was the "talk" but not the "walk".

The late Roy Pickett (on KTUL "culture"), salesman Jim Hill (he HAD done audio AND production), Carl/Zeb Bartholomew (on studio/audio/life in general), the late Rudy Cohen (Continuity) or late Huck West (Engineering) were great guides on "background" on why things were done the way they were done at 8 and who "the players" were.

I learnt a lot from "the newsies" and many of the newbie film photogs I had gone to school with at TU - picked my "production" brain.

Sometimes I think new folks today "in the biz" of radio/TV are not human sponges any more...

January 05 2006 at 02:40:56
Name: roy lee
Email: beerdrunk@msn.com
Location: playing checkers outside the general store
Comments: OK , I'm 44 now and many of the people I work with are half my age. When I walk past a coke can in the parking lot I stop and pick it up. I'm considered old and strange. Today's youth should be "cool" like me! (those fools)

January 04 2006 at 15:45:04
Name: Joyce Richardson
Comments: Scott,

I am sad to say that the "it's not my job" phenomenon you described is universal. I have having the same issues in my profession. (Materials and parts supply services).

If I suggest we actaullly do some work while at work, I get disparaging remarks and glares from my young co-workers.

I agree with you, when I was learning a trade, I was delighted to have the older more experienced employees help me. That generation is, sadly, gone.

It is nice to see others out there share my work ethic. You made my day.

January 04 2006 at 12:39:31
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: Oh, yeah - to add to technology woes - about 7-8 years ago when dealing with video stills for news or production - we started having folks bring us graphics for production use on diskette. Computers and TV are the same, right??? Local VA/WV political ad agency types can be as corny as those in OK. They were so proud of what they (or one of their kids) had done on home computers vs. "real" paintbox systems or broadcast-grade Macs. They had no idea about video levels or saturation or "safe title area" - but they had saved maybe $1000 on a simple graphics room session! Initially - we had no direct PC to broadcast still-store access but now - if arrives on a CD or DVD - we can load it to air.

The TV spots that we shot off tube studio cameras and art cards (or as they call them on the East Coast "hard cards") 35 years ago in Tulsa - probably would look better than a lot of the graphics seen here on local Comcast cable "breaks".

We all cringe here at a national packaging store chain's ads with local tags that have been airing in the DC area about twice an hour during CNN's day-time shows. The local owner is kinda a distorted, spacey green in complexion - has been for months! Amateurs!

January 04 2006 at 11:53:37
Name: Scott Linder
Location: Hollywood-land
Comments: In response to several messages with regard to changes in broadcast terminology, production methods, etc...

I experience these changes in the industry each and every day that I'm on the sound stage, along with other department heads from my/our generation. Young workers in all departments stare blankly as we ask them to do those things which were once expected to be a part of being considered a professional. When we insist that things be done correctly, we are looked-upon as some kind of "broadcast-bully" or "old-timer" who is out-of-touch with their concept of production.

This phenomenon also prevails above-the-line. On the set of both of my shows there are now more than a dozen "writer/producers" each earning more for each episode than I earn in a year!! Most all of these people have no knowledge of production techniques and requirements, and apparently have no desire to learn. I recently had to explain why I could not playback music at rock-concert levels on the set while we were shooting dialogue!! On one of last year's high-profile awards shows I was required to communicate the meaning of dead-rolling a music track so as to button the show on-time...geez!!

It appears that the broadcast business is now the domain of the "new professionals". Yes, we were all young once too, but we respected the knowledge and experience of our teachers and were eager to carry on the knowledge and time-tested techniques that they learned by experience. Sadly, many of those who now work both above and below the line have chosen to re-invent the business on their own terms.

We "old-timers" are speaking a language that they truly do not understand, and don't care to. So, to all of you who are perplexed and maddened by the terms that are now used, it's not just the language of broadcasting that is changing...it's the entire industry...(sigh)...

January 04 2006 at 10:21:35
Name: Lowell Burch
Email: lburch3atcoxdotnet
Location: Tulsa, I think. I just don't see many of the old landmarks.
Comments: When I saw Julie Newmar, she was surrounded by fans. I bought a picture and had her autograph it for an old Northside friend who now lives in Florida. She was very outgoing with the fans, she even got up and did some Catwoman moves for the crowd when they asked. I took some pictures with my digital camera, like the one on TTM. After everyone had left, I asked Julie if another fan could take a picture of us together. She was glad to do it and then she directed the shot, showing me how to stand, where to put my hands, etc., but she also complained about the camera being digital because she could not tell when to 'sparkle' without the mechanical cue characteristic of the old twin reflex. Sure enough, the shot caught her between expressions and the result was not a real flattering picture. That is why I have not been quick to post the picture for general viewing. I don't think she would be very pleased with it.

Since that time, they have given the more expensive digital cameras a feel and sound that simulates the action of the old 35mm. Good move, I think.

January 04 2006 at 07:30:56
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: Re Dr. Ruddle on mics vs. mikes and discs vs. disks...

Miking was what we did - micing is something a dyslexic may do! I have my trouble with the phrase "play-out" in TV technology. Being played out sounds like a tape ran out - on air. It was always PLAY BACK but as TV technology went to server play-backs - some doofuses (it actually is a Hungarian word I told!) thought play-out was more hip as a term. These were folks who never had a tape run out on air accidentally I guess. So now TV Master Controls do "play-outs" as opposed to playing back tapes. Grrrr.

When I flew home at Xmas - I sat next to a "producer" for WBT Talk Radio in Charlotte - from his job description - he was what many moons ago we might have called a combo-man/engineer. He was in his mid-20s and 2 years out of college, but had worked in smaller markets since he was 16. He ran "the board" on live a.m. drive shows then did cut-ins and local spots in Limbaugh mid-day, loaded sounders to servers, recorded other folks voicing spots and mixed in music, took in ISDN "network" promos and spots and loaded them on servers, and cut daily topical promos from shows he had air-checked. He also fed video stills to the web. He had to do 2 planning meetings a day with talent and exec producers on the next day's shows to line all out. He also often had to dial-out to phone guests when on air and ran spots for news talent in another studio. But never was he heard as a "voice" on-air - not in his job description! Sounds like radio is BUSIER than ever...He said he lives on caffeine...

January 04 2006 at 01:52:24
Name: John Young
Email: johnk662561atyahoodotcom
Location: Pining for the fjords...
Comments: In response to Mike's question in Guestbook 200, "What Landmark that was torn down in 2005 will you miss the most?" I'll have to say that for me, it's gotta be Starship. I know it's been rebuilt and reopened but it "jist ain't th' same!" I'm gonna miss the yellow house with the blue roof and the crowded but eclectic record shop. The best part of the whole experience was the INTIMACY. Even though it was a retail store, you still felt like you were visiting someones home and were always treated as a welcome guest...even if you just came in to browse.

I haven't been to the new store yet, so don't think I'm knocking IT...I'm just saying I'm gonna miss the OLD store. I also have to say I have a little pity for those who frequented the store next door. Some of them may not be able to find the new store! LOL

January 04 2006 at 00:36:43
Name: Frank Morrow
Email: frankmorrow12@yahoo.com
Location: Austin
Comments: For Jim Ruddle------

And do they now call a disk jockey a "disc" jockey? Why are CDs "discs," not disks?

January 03 2006 at 18:33:24
Name: si hawk
Email: sihawk@bokf.com
Location: T-Town
Comments: Lee Meriwether's finest role was on "The Time Tunnel". Okay - maybe not her finest but a great Sci-Fi from the 60's.

January 03 2006 at 12:16:04
Name: Scott Linder
Location: Hollywood-land
Comments: Lee Woodward, thank you so much for your kind permission to use the "Brokeback" gag. Although, it appears that I could have secured permission directly from your brother here in LA, had I known of the joke's origin. I do appreciate your honesty. However I believe that you missed an opportunity to act as your brother's agent and to demand a substantial fee for the use of his material. Too late..... You know, I think I may have dated that same girl some years later. Of course, by then, medical science had advanced and her archives seemed to have become more interesting.

January 03 2006 at 12:03:40
Name: Bill Wolf
Email: bwolfATwolf-lawDOTcom
Comments: I googled the Bliss Hotel in Tulsa, and this website came up referencing the hotel being blown up. I am related to the family which owned the hotel. They came to my parents' wedding in about 1950 in Chicago.

I am coming to Tulsa for the first time this coming Friday. Do you know anything about the family? Anything you know would be appreciated. Thanks.

January 03 2006 at 10:08:40
Name: Sam Loveall
Email: lsl@roanokenbible.edu
Location: Eastern Swamp, North Carolina
Comments: Lee Meriwether was never in the Batman television series. Only Julie Newmar and Eartha Kitt played that role. Meriwether WAS, however, Catwoman in the theater-release movie "Batman", that came after the show was finished.

She did appear as "Lisa" in episodes "Batman's Waterloo" and"King Tut's Coup".

January 03 2006 at 07:42:33
Name: Jim Ruddle
Email: jruddle@earthlink.net
Location: Rye, NY
Comments: Can someone please enlighten me as to when a microphone (pronounced Mike-ro-fone) became a "mic?"

We used to talk into "mikes,' but over the past few years this damnable "mic" thing has appeared. When you wore a microphone in the dear, dim past, you were "miked," now, I suppose, you'd be "miced." which sounds like something that would happen to Tom the Cat in a cartoon.

And when you sic the dog on an intruder, does it sound as though you have psyched the dog? Perhaps you have psyched the dog, and even the intruder, but that's not the way it should go.

If you develop a tic near your eye, will people think a tyke is sitting on your shoulder?

I know, it's too early in the year to get into such deep matters. Forgive me.

January 02 2006 at 22:36:09
Name: Delmeaux Gillette, aka G. Chew
Location: Soggimento, CAGary Chew was Delmo Gillette, announcer for the Mazeppa show
Comments: I just returned from Tulsey Town for some of the holidays. It's always good to be in such a nice city full of special people. Seeing all the traffic on this web site about "Brokeback Mountain" made me reflect while I was having dinner with Bob Gregory and his family there in Tulsa the other night. He and I were wondering what kind of cable TV news phone-in show we might have if we were able to resurrect Sam Peckinpah and John Ford and have those two icons on as our guests.

The question up for discussion would be "How would you have directed "Brokeback Mountain" differently, big guy?

Bob and I somehow felt that Duke Wayne would have been just a tad hesitant about being in the cast.

May Tulsa have a flame-retardant winter.

The Duke: "Well, I wish I knew how to quit ya, pilgrim."

Addendum, 1/7/2006: Gary has written a review of BBM for TTM.

January 02 2006 at 20:55:35
Name: LeeLee Woodward
Location: Patches Okla.
Comments: Scott Linder, you certainly have my permission for the "Brokeback" rejoinder as it came to me from my Brother Morgan via Hollywood land. I like to give credit when cornered. He offered that up after I told him a brilliant short joke; which of course, I have now forgotten. My brain has no archives it seems. I dated a girl in High School who had great archives but she would not share them and so we broke up over a boredom issue.

January 02 2006 at 13:25:04
Name: Scott Linder
Location: Hollywood-land
Comments: It's raining like a Tulsa Spring thunderstorm here in Glendale.

Tuned-in to KTLA's Rose Parade broadcast this morning. Felt so sorry for all the participants and the broadcast crews. I've done my share of foul weather television, and it's no fun. The sky is clearing a bit now (11:18 am) but this afternoon's wrap will be pretty messy!!

Thanks to Lee Woodward for the "Brokeback Mountain" gag. I ask his kind permission to use it when I go back to shooting "Crumbs" later this week. It'll be a nice laugh for my boom operators. I'll try to time it so that they'll laugh out-loud and ruin a take of some intimate scene. Hey, f***'em if they can't take a joke!!!

January 02 2006 at 11:42:14
Name: David Bagsby
Email: dcbatsunflower.com
Location: Lawrence KS-outer Gotham
Comments: Wasn't Lee Meriwether one of the Catwomen?

The others are Eartha Kitt and Julie Newmar. Lowell says he has a photo of himself posing with the latter feline.

January 02 2006 at 10:29:55
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: Watching CNN - I am too old for parades. Saw Lee Meriwether - a former Miss America and co-star of "Barnaby Jones" about 2 centuries ago pitching something. Wasn't she also a character on "Batman" the TV show for a while? Her hair is white now - I worked with her 10-12 years ago on a show for then GoodLife TV and she was a middle-aged "hottie" then. Sans white hair. We are ALL gettin' older!

January 01 2006 at 22:05:36
Name: John Hillis
Location: Watching the crescent moon sink across the Blue Ridge
Comments: You can never follow the King...so let's just hit the audio cart over the wide shot: "The Channel 6 Evening News is brought to you by Coors, Mid-America Savings, Oklahoma's Pride, and Clarke's Good Clothes."

I watched the New York ball drop in the Eastern Time Zone, so at least it wasn't at 11 pm. Watching (or more accurately, listening to) Dick Clark was a tough experience. Gutsy of him to try to carry on, or maybe it's just that after hanging onto a microphone for 60 years, you find the microphone really hangs on to you.

In New Year's Eves long past, did KVOO radio run NBC's parade of band remotes from time zone to time zone, with the highlight Ben Grauer's Times Square call? I guess Ben was about Clark's age when he finally hung up HIS spikes.

May 2006 be a good year for all the denizens of this space, especially the King and his straight man. And as Johnny Martin would say, "thanks for the use of the hall."

January 01 2006 at 17:40:11
Name: King LionelKing Lionel
Location: The Wet Bar
Comments: The movie "Brokeback Mountain;" giving new meaning to the word...."Cowpoke."

Lionel's right-hand man, Lee, has more to say about this above.

January 01 2006 at 13:56:58
Name: Lee Woodward
Location: Riverwalk
Comments: I just got back from seeing my Proctologist in Antarctica; did I miss anything?

Is it true that his 'scope is nicknamed "Chilly Willy"?

January 01 2006 at 13:31:58
Name: Webmaster
Comments: Archived Guestbook 200...

Check this list of the 50 greatest gadgets of the past 50 years from PCWorld via Boing Boing. If you didn't own quite a few of them, you probably do own some of their descendants.

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