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January 09 2010 at 13:53:17
Name: Jim Ruddle at WGN in 1965Jim Ruddle
Topic: Congratulations
: As usual, I'm running behind the pack on obligations to our esteemed webmaster. At this stage, I'm almost afraid to check in for fear of reading of the demise of another contemporary, but, as a friend in Tulsa told me on the phone a couple of weeks ago regarding obits: If you don't see your own name, you're good to go.

This has been a remarkable effort and I shudder to think of the problems that Mike has encountered trying to keep us all informed. What was that Greek server, anyway?

As for George Tomek's comments, he should have stayed in the Chicago area for more of that exhilarating weather. When I moved there at the insistance of WGN, I left Tampa sans overcoat and with nothing but tropic weight suits. I got off the plane at O'Hare and it was 2 degrees, 2 above, to be sure, so I knew things would be all right.

And George, there are some there who could also say they remember me. Without fondness. Some are now out of jail.

Permit me another word: Many of you are people I have not met except through this website, yet we all overlap in some ways, we've all shared some Tulsa experiences, and we all know about the Coney Island. What more do we need? Besides, the webmaster, that is.

January 08 2010 at 12:24:29
Name: Tulsa Area Music Archives
Topic: Happy Birthday Elvis!
Email: info at preservemusic dot org
Comments: In honor of The King's 75th birthday, TAMA has put together a little tribute for your listening pleasure...included are some Tulsans, Okies and other notables, including the King himself! Enjoy and TCB!!! Happy Birthday E!!!!

MP3 Link

1. I Was The One - Elvis
2. I Want You, I Need You, I Lov...e You - Elvis
3. What Do You Think About Jesus - Leon & Mary Russell (live)
4. The Elvis Thing - The Tractors
5. He Was The King - Neil Young
6. Elvis Loved His Mama - Red Dirt Rangers
7. Elvis & Marilyn - Leon Russell
8. Are You Lonesome Tonight? - Elvis
9. If I Can Dream - Elvis
10. Can't Help Falling In Love With You - Elvis
11. Elvis Live Outro...

Hey, if you like what you hear go out and buy the CDs and support these artists!

January 07 2010 at 21:21:59
Name: Mike Miller todayMike Miller
Topic: Congratulations!
Comments: Mike, this website is the best I've ever seen. Not just the best of its type. But simply the best! Keep up the good work.

January 07 2010 at 20:50:31
Name: George Tomek at KTVY, Channel 4, OKC, 1976George Tomek
Topic: TTM Anniversary
Email: mranchor@cox.net
Comments: Mike:

May I add my heartiest of congratulations on the fine job you've done with this outstanding website over the years. The subject came up again while I was in Chicagoland over the holidays with my family. They don't have memories of me in TV news in my hometown, but they certainly remember Jim Ruddle.

Again, congrats......and many more to come no doubt!

January 07 2010 at 19:03:54
Name: Lazzaro
Topic: TTM Anniversary
: Congratulations and happy anniversary.

Thanks for keeping the Tulsa that was accessible.

January 07 2010 at 01:25:12
Name: Arm
Topic: Fox 23 News
: I was a bit disappointed to learn that Fox 23 was adding a 10:00 newscast, and bumping Seinfeld to 10:30. Now admittedly, I like to swim in the shallow end of the pool, but I've found that I much prefer old, wacky Larry David comedy to keeping in touch with what's going on in my city.

With practically every local newscast I watch, I come away thinking "We're all screwed!" I drift off to sleep much easier after an old Seinfeld episode, much like the cast members themselves who lost out in "The Contest."

January 07 2010 at 00:53:32
Name: John K. Young
Topic: Re: Fox News at 9 AND 10
Email: johnk662561atyahoodotcom
Comments: My condolences to the good folks of Tulsa who will now get to experience the "brilliant idea" that Fox is putting into action. We have that already here in Phoenix. If it runs like it does here, the 10pm newscast will be a near verbatim repeat of the 9pm newscast but with a different set of anchors.

I'm all for being "well informed" but I don't get Fox's seeming obssession with repeating the same news twice in 2 hours. Is the news supposed to sound BETTER the second time around? Or am I just being Johnny McCrankypants?

January 06 2010 at 15:02:59
Name: King LionelKing Lionel
Topic: Aye Patch
Email: CastleMoatDotCom
Comments: AARRRRRRRR !!!

January 05 2010 at 22:48:26
Name: Lee Woodward
Topic: Case Night in The City
Email: AnonDotCom
Comments: Sounds as though some old Corinthian broadcast folks have matriculated into the Fox Headquarters with some good advice about the best time for news. I was just remembering how those New York brains decided that because the news did so well there at 11:00 o'clock, why... let's move KOTV news to 11:00 o'clock. They did that. You can imagine the ratings.

That was right up there with the consultant's idea for Clayton to wear an eye patch. (The Hathaway shirt ad)

It's infected cable, too.

My wife Gaye said that the eye patch idea might have worked for Lionel.

The Hathaway shirt man

January 05 2010 at 18:24:01
Name: Erick
Topic: Fox 23 at 10
Comments: The 10 pm newscast will have the same anchors, but will likely be styled more like a typical half-hour nightly newscast, which will be a departure from the 9 pm show.

I've never been a big Seinfeld fan, so I can't share your pain there.

January 05 2010 at 09:30:36
Name: DolfanBob
Topic: Fox 23 news
Email: DolfanBob@lycos.com
Comments: My work runs ads with Fox 23 and I heard about the new 10 P.M. news mid last month. I asked our sales rep what was happening and she said that it is a whole new show with a whole new energy and she could not say but maybe new anchors also.

My question is. Does Tulsa have enough news to fill 1 & 1/2 hour broadcast. Have you ever watched news 2 Saturday morning. Hashed and rehashed stories from the previous hour.

New feel or not, it's gonna be a stretch. And my Seinfeld now starts at 10:30. That's just "kooky" talk.

January 05 2010 at 08:15:26
Name: Erick
Topic: Fox 23
Comments: The promo I saw last night said that Fox 23 News at 10 will begin on January 18th after the 9 pm newscast. It's in addition to the 9 pm news.

As a friend who works at the Fox station in OKC has told me, Fox "highly enourages" its affiliates to have a 9 pm newscast even though the affiliates could technically do whatever they want to with that time block.

In fact, Fox has threatened (in a mellow way) to pull its affiliation from stations who refuse to air a 9 pm newscast. Fox 23 is trying to hold on to viewers who switch to either 2, 6, or 8 at 10 pm.

January 04 2010 at 19:05:55
Name: Jim Porter
Topic: Rasslin
Email: jimininola at yahoo dahtcom
Comments: In reading the Rasslin' Page, I saw the name of my old Bell Jr. High football coach mentioned, Oni Wiki Wiki.

Oni's real name was Wallace Lam Ho. I went to school with his son Lee.

I heard recently that Oni had passed away. He was a great coach and friend.

January 04 2010 at 09:24:18
Name: Tulsarick
Topic: Fox 23
Email: clarkrick@yahoo.com
Comments: I caught a short promo on Fox 23 teasing about a 10 pm newscast. Anyone know if it's replacing the 9 pm or details?

January 03 2010 at 16:11:27
Name: Whitney Temple
Topic: Uncle Tytomo's
: I was googling my dad's old restaurant, Uncle Tytomo's, and saw that on your GroupBlog 291 there was a woman named Amanda asking if there was a restaurant called Uncle Tytomo's. My dad is Tom of Tytomo's and just thought it was really neat that she remembered the restaurant!

A restaurant called Buns and Roses is at that location (the Manhattan Building, aka the "Secure Agent" Building) today.

I added the following image to GB 291 as well:

Uncle Tytomo's ad on the back cover of 'Tulsa Time' magazine, May 1983 issue
Back cover of the May 1983 'Tulsa Time' magazine, courtesy Roy Payton

January 01 2010 at 22:26:15
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: Phil Atkinson
: Got this from ex-KTUL supersalesman, Jim Hill. It arrived Thursday but I have been off-line till tonight:

"Pat Atkinson called me early this evening to tell me that she found Phil dead in his West Tulsa apartment yesterday morning. Phil was a favorite and loved by many of us. He was in production at Channel 8 in the 1960s. I don't know the early part of his story but when I came to the station in 1963 he was a director. I was a booth announcer and He and I regularly worked evening shifts together. Like many others, I learned so very much from Phil.

"Phil specified that no service be held. However, we will get together and and share our memories of Phil Atkinson and say our goodbyes."


I knew of Phil thru the late Wayne "Tuffy" Johnson, who had been one of his friends. Both had been at 8 and Tuffy held great reverence for Phil's work. Phil had also thrown film work to Tuffy when he was between jobs at 8 and 6.

If Phil was doing a job at 8 as a film-maker/producer when I was cutting my teeth there as a lowly projectionist, a lot of folks would come by the booth to say howdy!

This is sad news for the Tulsa TV community. Here is a photo of Wayne and Phil at the Captain Ben reunion at McNellie's, and a photoset of that event in 2006.

Phil worked on-camera with Bob Jernigan on the "Captain Ben" show in 1962.

From the Tulsa World, 1/2/2010:

"TV personality saw world through lens; The former KTUL producer, director and host died Tuesday. He was 68."

Wayne 'Tuffy' Johnson and Phil Atkinson
Wayne Johnson and Phil Atkinson in 2006

January 01 2010 at 11:45:30
Name: Karen
Topic: A Toast to Tulsa TV Memories!
Comments: Mike, you do a great job here!

Wishing you many more years with a successful website!

Karen & Jenn
The Official Outsiders Book and Movie website

January 01 2010 at 07:03:50
Name: John Boydston
Topic: Ned Hockman
Comments: I've been away from the site for a while and just saw the passing of OU Film Professor Ned Hockman posted here.

I had the privilege of working as an assistant to Ned as a Graduate Student at OU for about a year, and had the highest respect and admiration for him as a creative professional and teacher/mentor that he was. His mantra was 'know the mechanics but do what you want to do, not what others expect you to do.' I took that to heart. What a great guy. Very sorry to hear of his passing.

Thanks to Lionel for posting.

January 01 2010 at 01:47:18
Name: Arm
Topic: KAKC Contact, David Stanford
: One night David had an auto mechanic on the show and they were taking calls about various car problems. Stealing a line from Johnny Carson's "Art Fern" character, I called in and mentioned that I had gone in to a service station on E. 11th for a grease and lube job, and was so pleased with that, that I went home and got my car and brought it in!

That was followed by ten seconds of awkward silence, and "Line 4, you're on Nightline."

I've still got that on tape somewhere.

Har, har!

January 01 2010 at 01:38:06
Name: Arm
Topic: KAKC Contact, David Stanford
: Thanks to Si Hawk for his KAKC Contact info. While I remembered the show, I had no idea David Stanford was the host! Some friends and I used to occasionally call David's "Nightline" show on KRMG in the late 70's.

December 31 2009 at 22:53:22
Name: Tulsa Area Music Archives
Topic: Happy New Year
Email: info at preservemusic dot org
Comments: Happy New Year to all our friends, fans and supporters. Here's a little something to help you celebrate the New Year - a variety of "Happy New Year" themed songs, from Abba to Spike Jones, with some B.B. King, Lightnin' Hopkins and others thrown in for good measure.

MP3 link at PreserveMusic.org.

1. Happy New Year - ABBA
2. Happy New Year - Lightnin' Hopkins
3. Bring In A Brand New Year - B.B. King
4. Happy New Year - Oldies But Goodies Holiday Players
5. Happy New Year - Spike Jones & The City Slickers
6. Auld Lang Syne - Studio Group
7. Auld Lange Syne - The Lonesome Travelers
8. Auld Lang Syne - Barenaked Ladies
9. Auld Lang Syne - The Brothers Figaro Orchestra

Happy New Year and enjoy!

December 30 2009 at 22:53:35
Name: Dave
Topic: Local TV future
Comments: John Hillis is right to predict that this web site may be a resource for future historians interested in what local TV was like in this era. The catch is we might not have to wait long for the historians to start reviewing the bygone era.

An AP article, "Broadcasters' woes could spell trouble for free TV", tells how the business model for TV is shifting in a way that could result in networks going all-cable and abandoning local affiliates, which would leave the local stations with a lot less income and programming.

And we thought local newspapers around the nation were all that were teetering.

December 30 2009 at 20:44:19
Name: John HillisJohn Hillis
Topic: 11th Birthday
Comments: Has it been only 11 years? It seems TTM has been part of my regular online routine like, forever. The depth and breadth of the recollections here continue to amaze. No question is too deep or too obscure that one of the denizens of this site won't have an answer, or know somebody who does.

I think I've said before that this site has vastly aided some future historian who will be looking back at that 50-year or so window where television was the dominant medium and trying to puzzle out what "local" was really all about. I've seen single station histories, and skim-the-surface things elsewhere on the net, but TTM is unique. In those hundreds of GBs is a story untold elsewhere, in the first person, voices that would otherwise be lost and uncollected as we first and second generation broadcasters get old and forget, or worse.

Besides, I take my hat off to anyone (and Mrs. Anyone, for that matter) who has an attention span long enough to nurture and put up with anything for 11 years, with only the sense of accomplishment and the potential gratitude of future generations as recompense.

May TTM and Mister R. have many anniversaries and GBs ahead.

December 30 2009 at 09:34:34
Name: Sonny Hollingshead
Topic: RE: KRMG Talk Early 80s
: I think Chuck is right. Neil Thruston took over after David Stanford left KRMG. The sports block was handled by Bill Land and J.V. Haney.

December 30 2009 at 02:30:40
Name: Wilhelm Murg
Topic: Tulsa TV Memories
Email: wilhelmurg at yahoo dot com
Comments: Thanks for the compliment, but I think I missed the first year or two of the site. I remember being bored at the Infinity Press office one night and I typed "Mazeppa" into my browser (probably Netscape at that time) and I was shocked to see three pages on the TTM website, so I started exploring the site. I was amazed at how much information was already up on the site, but with my borderline OCD memory, I knew there were plenty of subjects that could be fleshed out.

In the process I got to meet many of my heroes from local television, including Gailard Sartain, Jim Millaway, Lee & Lionel, and the late Carl Bartholomew. This weird, local television humor was as big an influence on me as network shows like SNL, Laugh-In, or Fridays. I think we're all very lucky to have come of age in a culture that allowed such free-form television. A puppet lion giving political commentary during the Vietnam war...indeed!

Looks like I first talked with you on 5/15/2001, according to GB 79. Then your first entry was in GB 90 on September 5, 2001 at 6:44 pm, though several of your Infinity Press articles had made it onto the site already.

December 29 2009 at 23:45:54
Name: Chuck Fullhart
Topic: Tulsa Gal's blog
: This is what I get for staying up late. Meant to say that I wish that there were more postings on Nancy's blog, Tulsa Gal. It probably takes quite a bit of time to put these together, and just cruising through the Beryl Ford online collection of photos is enough to justify putting off meals and other essentials. Good work and thank you to both Mike and Nancy on their blogs.

December 29 2009 at 23:40:09
Name: Chuck Fullhart
Topic: Congrats to the webmaster
: Congrats to Mike for a great piece of work over the years. If he had not started this corner of the web for those of us who toil or have toiled at the site of the Golden Transmitter, a lot of these memories would have just been lost over time.

Also, I want to second Mike's kudos to Nancy for her history blog. Just wish there were postings on it.

December 29 2009 at 23:35:31
Name: Chuck Fullhart
Topic: Neil Thruston/ David Stanford/KRMG
Comments: Didn't Thruston replace Stanford on the late night talk experiment on KRMG? Seems like the format was Sportsline following the 5-6 newsblock, then talk from 6-8, up until Johnny retired, then the whole 6-10 block became talk.

December 29 2009 at 22:19:28
Name: John K. Young
Topic: Congratulations, TTM!!
Email: johnk662561atyahoodotcom
Comments: Congratulations Webmaster Mike and TTM on a fantastic 11 years! :)

December 29 2009 at 18:13:31
Name: J LeMoine
Topic: A Toast to TTM
: Happy Anniversary TTM!
Mr. Ransom, this site is a Tulsa Treasure - hats off to you!

December 29 2009 at 16:45:04
Name: David Bagsby
Topic: Happy Birthday TTM
Comments: For all the work you do here, Mike, an impromptu celebration:

December 29 2009 at 15:58:43
Name: TulsaGal
Topic: TTM Anniversary
Email: tulsahistory@aol.com
Comments: Congrats and thanks to you and your many contributors for providing such a wonderful and entertaining website. As a Tulsa history researcher, yours is one of the first places I visit when looking for specific Tulsa info and I'm never disappointed. Cheers to 2010!

Thanks, Nancy.

Your TulsaGal's Blog was a welcome addition to the world of online Tulsa lore this year.

December 29 2009 at 14:17:12
Name: Rose Bowl Bunker Commander
Topic: TTM Anniversary
: Congrats on 11th anniversary STOP Muchest thanks to Webmeister and unindicted co-conspirator, T Town's fav realtor, Gaye Brown STOP Keep it coming STOP

December 29 2009 at 13:40:58
Name: Gary ChewGary Chew
Topic: 2010 and Looking Back
Comments: Strong follow up on the professionalism comment about Mike Ransom. Hear, hear! Good site, this TTM.

Reading Mr. Peas comments on old KOTV video, reminded me about a novel I'm reading now called A Given Day by Dennis Lehane. I believe it's his latest book. And with it, he's stretched himself into being an historical novelist other than just a great crime story author: Gone Baby Gone, Mystic River and Shutter Island (a new movie for 2010) being just three of his creations.

A Given Day is about a young Boston policeman, whose father is a honcho on the BPD, and a young black man from Ohio who comes to Boston during all the political upheaval going on with the social classes just as the First World War is coming to a close. But the young black is on the lam from Tulsa where he had been mixed up in some nefarious dealings in the bubbling black economy of Greenwood.

The black man lives in Tulsa with his young pregnant wife in a house at Archer and Elwood. Lots of Tulsa locations mentioned in the beginning of the book, which I still have nearly 450 pages to go. There are even moments in the book when Babe Ruth makes appearances---not in Tulsa but further east.

So far, I'm having trouble putting down A Given Day by Dennis Lehane.

Delmeaux de Gillete du Coffeyville (real not virtual)

December 29 2009 at 13:03:51
Name: Whirled Peas
Topic: Police Union: Confiscate Cameras
: After the widely publicized videotape of the beating of Rodney King in March 1991 aired, the Tulsa FOP quietly sent out a memo to police officers instructing them to confiscate the cameras of civilians they observed videotaping police or an arrest, in hopes of avoiding a similarly embarrassing situation from happening here.

Someone with a conscience leaked the memo to KOTV, who did an investigative piece on it.

It's currently rumored that the Oklahoma Trooper's Association issued a similar back-room directive after the videotaped road-rage incident involving OHP Trooper Daniel Martin became the second most watched video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCw0XjHNzZ4

So, did any of you old-timers save a copy of the KOTV report about the Tulsa FOP memo, or remember seeing it?

December 29 2009 at 11:13:50
Name: Si Hawk
Topic: Radio show "Contact"
Email: sihawk@hawkshometown.com
Comments: Beverly,

David Stanford hosted the 'Contact' show on KAKC up until late '72 or early '73 I believe. He then came to work at KCNW as our News Director (as I recall). KCNW had some great talent in the news department: Kitty Roberts of American Theatre Company, Sam Stewart formerly an anchor for KTUL and Mark Boyce who is better known today as a rock musician. I know I've left some folks out some if anyone remembers others please let me know.

A year or two later David did a call-in show on KRMG. I was thinking Johnny Martin was still doing his show at the time and David's show was either before or after Johnny, but I could be mistaken. When I started at KWEN I was doing nights and spent a lot of time visiting with Johnny Martin, since the KRMG/KWEN studios were together at Liberty Towers. Golden memories!

Didn't Neil Thruston have a similar show on KELi circa 1980? I see that he is now a docent for the Tulsa Air and Space Museum.

December 29 2009 at 05:00:23
Name: Wilhelm Murg
Comments: I'm hoping to get out of the house today, I've been snowed in since X-mas eve, but luckily I was given a copy of Volume 4: The Last Laugh of The Lost Mazeppa Tapes as a gift. Like the first three volumes, it's endlessly entertaining. There seems to be a little less of Teddy Jackeddy than in the previous volumes, but when he comes on he's red hot, such as in the School of Neat Falls.

The whole time I was watching it I was amazed at how something so counterculture could be so innocent. Though it was obviously ahead of it's time, the show got this town through some strange days by unifying it through silliness. You wouldn't believe how many times I've had to explain that this all happened before SNL was even conceived.

So where are the Unfilmy Can Festival tapes from the KAKC radio show? Everyone and his dog called into that show (I personally NEVER got through). Are there tapes of Sherman Oaks and Steve Pickle from The Groovy Movie? If there's one thing this town needs it's more documentation of Mazeppa & company.

Wilhelm, thanks for your excellent contributions and unique perspective on Tulsa pop culture over the last 10 years.

Wilhelm Murg's articles for Tulsa TV Memories

December 29 2009 at 01:23:54
Name: Webmaster
Topic: TTM's 11th year has passed

Today is Tulsa TV Memories' 11th anniversary.

I'll be archiving the 'What's new?' page shortly. The volume of updates this year seems staggering in retrospect. Many of these items were courtesy of contributors. I want to say thanks once again to all the regular and occasional readers who are the heart of this enterprise.

Special thanks to Gary Chew, who has done prodigious duty in the movie review department this year, to Tim and Dick Schmitz, and to the Northern Branch.

My own output slowed somewhat in the latter part of the year, as I became a student again while working full time. I am now halfway through a cloud computing curriculum at TCC; I was interviewed about it for this Sunday Tulsa World story in August.

But I will be trying to keep up with things here, and I have ideas for the coming year that may prove to be fun.

Happy New Year! Please join me in a toast to 2010; may it be a great year for both real and virtual Tulsans.

Photo by Mike Ransom

December 28 2009 at 18:06:02
Name: Mitchell Holt
Topic: Mazeppa memories
Email: fungaloyd at msndotcom
Comments: Mike, thanks for your help in the past on locating items of interest. Thank you for this site and your professional work. May you have a successful new year!!!

You're welcome, Mitchell, and best wishes for your 2010!

December 25 2009 at 10:36:23
Name: David Bagsby
Topic: Blizzard Hazard
Comments: A buddy of mine informed me that AAA is out for most of Oklahoma so is this trip really necessary?

December 25 2009 at 07:58:16
Name: David Bagsby
Topic: Xmas
Comments: Blizzard hit Kansas City also so everybody everywhere have a safe everything!

December 24 2009 at 21:23:26
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: Merry Christmas!
: From the TTM branch office in Downers Grove, IL!

I hear Tulsa is getting a Xmas blizzard tonight.
Stay safe and warm, ya'all!

We sure did have a blizzard, and I got to drive 14 miles in it with attention at laser-like focus and visibility at near zero. Hope things are better up there. Good to hear from the northern branch!

December 24 2009 at 21:15:06
Name: Dana LeMoine
Topic: Spam carving by Ruby the Crusher with Sherman Oaks
Email: d4wdw@valornet.com
Comments: Merry Christmas to all!

December 24 2009 at 18:23:19
Name: Webmaster
Topic: Previous GroupBlog link
Comments: Archived GroupBlog 305, where you will find Christmas greetings, among other things.

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