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February 06 2007 at 15:13:10
Name: Jeff
Topic: To Lee Woodward
Comments: Mr. Woodward, your brother Morgan is a real talented and awesome character actor. He is my favorite guest star on Gunsmoke, whoever first came up with the idea of casting him in a role was a genius. He played just about everything, good guys, bad guys, sidekicks in a couple, a meek husband of a woman in another, but my favorite was when he played Matt Dillon's former boss.

I was watching the Gunsmoke episode "Lobo", a couple of days ago and was amazed at how great of an actor he is. He should have been Emmy-nominated for most of the episodes he did, but like all the older great character actors, he is so natural that it doesn't seem like he's acting at all.

Anyway, I just wanted to mention it. Does he ever get to Tulsa at all?

February 05 2007 at 17:50:44
Name: Tom
Topic: Jerk Joints
Email: tulsadays@hotmail.com
Comments: Someone mentioned Goodtime foosball hall. Thanks a lot. Now I remember being too buzzed one night leaving there and backed my sister's Pinto into a light pole.

Does anyone remember the name of the foos hall at 51st and Sheridan?

February 05 2007 at 09:02:50
Name: Lowell Burch
Topic: Cleveland
: Susan and I just got back from Lake Erie College in Ohio and, as you may have seen on the news, it is pretty brisk up there right now. The college took us to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and we were pleased to see that one of the special exhibits was the Concert for Bangladesh. They were showing the movie in one of the theaters. On the wall they had the photos and bios of Harrison, Clapton, Starr, Preston, Shankar, and Leon Russell. Of course, Tulsa was mentioned in Leon's bio.

The clerk in the museum gift shop asked my wife where she was from and what brought her to Cleveland. She told him she was Tulsa and mentioned the fight song contest. He said, "Wow, I just read about you guys in the paper about ten minutes ago! I'm talking to a celebrity!"

I had to escort her out before she got started signing autographs.

You can read about Susan and Lowell's contest-winning fight song for Lake Erie College in this Tulsa World story.

Here is a story in the Cleveland Plain Dealer, a video story from WKYC in Cleveland, and the fight song on MP3.

February 04 2007 at 18:49:00
Name: Rick Brashear
Topic: Nine of Cups
Email: okw40@aol.com
Comments: Rod Dent said in Guestbook 45:

"In the early 70's, it was not uncommon to see J.J. Cale, Eric Clapton, Freddie King, or once or twice George Harrison at one of the local clubs. Including the Magician's Theatre, the Nine of Cups, The Jail, The Observatory, or the Ranch out on the Beeline."

I was at a friend's house one night not three blocks from The Nine of Cups. Another guy burst in and said Eric Clapton was over there. We hauled butt, only to face a packed parking lot and a line of people out to the street.

Obviously, we didn't get in, though we could hear the music because the door was open for a bit. Clapton played with the house band and we went back to listening to Firesign Theatre records. A day late and a dollar short.

February 03 2007 at 11:27:26
Name: Dwight
Topic: Jerk Joints
Comments: I'm sorry, but I don't recall a foosball hall by the name of Keough's. Then again, Mitch Gray was able to recall through his post purple microdot and orange sunshine days. The names of jerk joints I had even forgotten such as Granny's basement at 21st & Memorial, Sandy's at 21st & Hwy 169 and one he couldn't remember, the name of one at 41st & Memorial.

Other folks have written in about jerk joints located around the east side of Tulsa I had long forgotten about. I'm shocked, having been raised in the east side in the 21st & Garnett area. That I have let time take those memories away. Or was it some of the other 70s counterculture I so freely toke part of that toke those memories away?

Thanks, Joyce, for trying to refresh the memory of a long-haired kid with a bad-ass push shot.

February 03 2007 at 11:09:45
Name: Webmaster
Topic: Brushy brother
: My brother Alan is extensively quoted in today's Tulsa World story, "Band of brothers", by Jason Ashley Wright. It's about a two-month beard-growing contest that ended Thursday at the Circle Cinema.

I used to have a beard, too, but after seeing myself on "Six in the Morning" in 2000, I lost it for good.

February 03 2007 at 08:08:32
Name: Joyce Richardson
Topic: Jerk Joints
Comments: Dwight,
Could one of the places you are thinking of have been called Keough's? I remember playing there, but can't recall exactly where it was located.

February 02 2007 at 23:00:42
Name: Wilhelm Murg
Topic: 3 New Posts in my Blog
Email: Wilhelmurg at Yahoo dot com
Comments: By the way, I forgot to plug my MySpace Blog!

It looks like the boys down in OKC got a new NONzine out today (www.NONzine.com). I have not one, not two, but three articles in the latest issue; a review of CLERKS II, which just came out on DVD, a review of the new violent Native American comic book SCALPED, and my TIGER BEAT FROM HELL column on Clara Rockmore and the Theremin.

Let me know what you think. I'm up to my arms in Wanda Jackson stories; we're hoping to have her autobiography out soon. I'll write more in the TTM blog once I'm done.

February 02 2007 at 22:49:56
Name: Wilhelm Murg
Topic: Light Bright
Email: Wilhelmurg at Yahoo dot com
Comments: Yes, I was thinking of the earlier Lite Brite melody, I don't remember the posted one at all.

So did anyone ask themselves if a terrorist (or "Tarist" as the president says) were to plant bombs why would they choose the Mooninites as their logo? Does anyone really think these people are into Islam and Adult Swim? I suspect a suicide bomber would get more pointers out of JACKASS.

February 02 2007 at 19:57:57
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: Kitty Roberts on the www
Comments: Her brother Tom Roberts says that she has e-mail - but I can't ever get her to respond. And Tulsa's "American Theatre Company" - if one googles it - you find about a bazillion ATC's in America! My advice - do a yellow pages search and call her at the ATC!

February 02 2007 at 19:54:30
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: How times have changed...
Comments: I knew that Texaco was severing ties for the weekly Metropolitan Opera broadcasts. I did NOT know that it is now called The Toll Brothers Metropolitan Operacast - but that's okay. It's still on the air!

Listening to "new" WETA-FM with the WGMS-donated music library here in ccccold DC.

Is KWGS still carrying the Met on their classical franchise?

Yes, they are; here's the schedule at PublicRadioTulsa.org.

February 02 2007 at 18:23:33
Name: Dwight L. Fast
Topic: Jerk Joints
Email: FishingFast@comcast.net
Comments: Well I guess I stand corrected the Foosball hall behind Cotton's was in fact the Mineshaft. Does anybody remember where the Zodiac was located? Or the name of the one across the parking lot of Tiffany bowling ally. I'm still also stumped about the name of the jerk joint that was on the west side of Memorial just south of Admiral.

February 02 2007 at 15:48:36
Name: Toy Dept Timothy
Topic: Tick Tock School and Lite Brite
Email: aa5drvr at the 'Hoo doc calm
Comments: Does anyone remember a pre-school in Tulsa in maybe the late50's-early 60s called Tick-Tock School? I was incarcerated there once. For the life of me I dont know where it was.....maybe W. of Harvard about 28th or so?

Lite Brite - I remember a jingle probably late 60s that had a bit softer melody, "Lite Brite, making things with light......"

February 02 2007 at 10:43:59
Name: Dave
Topic: Time Capsule preparation
Email: ... and you attach this to what?
Comments: Chuck Adams' comment about putting an aircheck tape in the time capsule led me to wonder if someone thought to throw in a a compatible recorder on which to play it back. It's not like it's impossible today to find a reel-to-reel for playback, but one would need hunt around. And if it was for a 100-year time capsule, then Chuck's aircheck may be audible only through the resources of a museum.

I was involved in a time capsule effort recently in which some folks wanted to include a DVD with some video and some images of some current web sites. Fortunately, someone had presence of mind to throw a laptop into the mix, with AC cord and printed instructions on how to operate the whole thing. That way the people 50 years from now won't be left staring at the DVD and wondering what to do with it. As long as the electrical grid works the same as now, the plan might work.

Might want to throw in full technical specs for DVD and the playback method, just in case it's down there for 500 or more years (unless it's the 2500s of the new movie, "Idiocracy").

The email field for this GroupBlog is optional. If you want others to be able to email you, I recommend altering your email address to foil spambots, e.g., mike[at]tulsatvmemories[dot]com. I'm not collecting email addresses.

February 02 2007 at 03:23:46
Name: Wilhelm Murg
Topic: Lite Brite
Email: Wilhelmurg at Yahoo dot com
Comments: The Lite Brite song was one of my favorite TV commercial songs. Too bad it's only 29 notes long.

February 01 2007 at 23:55:08
Name: Susanna Conley - St Louis
Topic: Living Arts Theater
Comments: Left T-town back in the early 1970s. Trying to catch up with friends who were part of the Living Arts Theater company. Mary Alice Mark, daughter of KAKC owner Carl Mark, her boyfriend, John Martin (John Randall) of KMOD, son of KRMG's Johnny Martin and Kitty Roberts, manager of KMOD were involved in the Tulsa Living Arts Theater. Would appreciate knowing their whereabouts.

LOVE your wonderful pages of memories.

February 01 2007 at 19:57:20
Name: John Hillis
Topic: Singin' the Coyote Blues (When you sing, you grow taller?)
: A chill, quiet Thursday night here along the Bleu Ridge, but the promised snow has yet to materialize.

I thought of one more thing to put in the time capsule: some dolt to ask what the phone number for Rideshy is. Perhaps then he can ask the number for 911.

A fight song you won't hear this weekend at the Sooper Bowl is "Hail to the Redskins." Bandleader Barnee Breeskin wrote it way back when and collected the royalties (small but regular checks for performances) until his passing about 10 or 12 years ago. It drove the successive owners of the team crazy because it was one part of the merchandising they didn't own. Barnee enjoyed this particularly well.

Hope the Lake Erie composers hang on to the ASCAP rights...

My alma mater's fight song was fairly simple: "Glory, glory to old Georgia (repeat 3x), and to Hell with Georgia Tech." As Ignatius Reilly would put it, a succinct world view. Georgia Tech's fight song had several verses, perhaps owing to their more mathematical bent.

I'll be a listenin' on the innernet for John Wooley. Speaking of on the radio, had the pleasure of hearing Mike Flynn's folk sampler last weekend driving up the Shenandoah Valley last Saturday. Since we don't get Mike's show up here, it was the first time I'd enjoyed his voice in decades. It was an unusually warm January afternooon with a Tulsa-blue clear sky, and Mike and his musical selections made it a pleasant drive indeed.

Shows like John's and Mike's and the stations that carry them deserve the financial support of we who appreciate them, since they haven't totally succumbed to ratings frenzy. Just a small plug.

February 01 2007 at 17:27:06
Name: Sonny Hollingshead
Topic: UHF This Weekend!/Special "Swing On This"
Email: Sonnyho1955@yahoo.com
Comments: KOKI FOX-23 (Cox Cable 5) will air Weird Al's "UHF" this Saturday, February 3rd, from 4:00 p.m. until 6:00 p.m.

With snow on the ground and no football, what better way to spend a winter afternoon?


After "UHF", tune in to KWGS-FM 89.5 (listen online) at 7 pm for John Wooley's Western Swing radio show "Swing On This". He will feature the Western Swing tune "Coyote Blues", composer...Lewis Meyer?!

This was discovered by Michael Bates and discussed in GB 228. I mentioned it to John, and he dug up two different versions of Lewis' tune. Both Mikes get a dedication (playlist).

February 01 2007 at 15:40:25
Name: Jim Ruddle
Topic: Fight Song
Email: jruddle@earthlink.net
Comments: Now we have the Lake Erie fight song related to Tulsa. Good work.

(The info about this contest-winning song written by Lowell and Susan Burch has been added to a later item on this page where you can hear it in MP3...webmaster)

An historical note: With the Super Bowl coming up on Sunday, you may hear the Chicago team's fight song performed at some point. It's "Bear Down, Chicago Bears."

In 1941, the Bears won the NFL championship by whipping the Washington Redskins by the monumental, and still unmatched score of 73-0.

George Halas, the founder and owner of the Bears decided that the team needed a fight song to commemorate the occasion. He announced a contest for the best tune. Lots of would be composers and probably a few tanked-up Bear fans submitted entries.

The winner was picked, by Halas, and it was written, he said by one Jerry Downs. Too bad for all you others.

It turned out later that Jerry Downs was really a Tin-Pan Alley regular named Al Hoffman who also wrote such memorable melodies as "If I Knew You Were Coming I'd Have Baked a Cake," "Mairzy Doats." and "Bibbidi-bobbity-boo."

Halas had contracted with Hoffman to write the thing before the contest ever began and, in truth, there never was a contest.

Nevertheless, come Sunday, I'll be singing "Bear Down, Chicago Bears" with the best of them.

February 01 2007 at 13:32:07
Name: roy lee
Topic: Makin' things with lite!
Email: beerdrunk@msn.com
Comments: Remember the old commercials for the toy, "Lite Brite"? I guess they didn't sell those in Boston.

January 31 2007 at 23:28:07
Name: Jack Stewart
Topic: 1944 Central Hi Grad Barbara Jean Wilson
Email: mexlaw[at]stx[dot]rr[dot]com
Comments: Hello. I'm Jack Stewart. Been away from Tulsa for about 40 years. Would love to be back.

I need help. I'm looking for Barbara Jean Wilson, Tulsa Central Hi grad in 1944. I recall she was a good friend of Joanne Inhofe, Jimmy Inhofe's big sister.

If any one can give a lead on how to find her or if they know where she is, please email me. Thanks ever so much.

January 31 2007 at 21:39:23
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: Re Sonic for Bro Hillis
Comments: Get thee Bro Hillis down US 29 - closest Sonic on N and S ends of Lynchburg, VA.

I say A-Men to your time capsule edibles. Now if only Johnny Harden were still alive and cookin'!

January 31 2007 at 20:22:42
Name: Gary Chew
Topic: Molly Ivins R. I. P.
Email: Just SW of the Donner Party Family Grill
Comments: God Bless Molly, by Golly. There's a lot about her on The Texas Observer web site out of Austin.

She was a good woman who knew her flora.

Delmeaux de Gillette du Coffeyville

January 31 2007 at 20:14:07
Name: Chuck Adams
Topic: All this talk about time capsules
Email: cavaky@msn.com
Comments: Been away for awhile, so...did they open up the '57 time capsule? (due to happen 6/15/2007...webmaster)

During my time at KRMG the station was involved in gathering goodies for a time capsule, must have been in '67. An "aircheck" of my morning gig was included. I believe it was on reel-to-reel, but maybe cassette.

GREAT artwork of Lee and King Lionel!

Hope y'all are stayin' warm, it was nine degrees at my home in Kentucky this AM!
Love TTM!
Chuck Adams

January 31 2007 at 19:59:14
Name: John Hillis
Topic: Time Capsule
Comments: First off, send the Sonic up here (though that'd kill my new year's diet)--even if their coneys are a pale microwaved imitation of the Coney I-lander, a No. 1 burger, a coney, tater tots and a limeade would be a great addition to Our National Capital region.

Now, as to what gets preserved and buried...I'd say Granny Lion, but she's pretty well preserved as is. (She'll be after me with her umbrella for that, I know)

Perhaps a DVD player and a disc with what may be the most famous unplanned 30 seconds in Tulsa TV history--"King Kong Flu" with Bill Pitcock. Lots more room on the DVD, so also include "Oil in Oklahoma", all of Jack Frank's efforts, Bob Hower's book on the Tulsa race riots, a "Ski the Tulsa Mountains" bumper sticker, Dwight Twilley graffiti from the BA X-way, circa 1978, Henry Lile's Cessna and grass strip at Harvey Young Airport.

And get Nelson Rogers, Jr. to contribute a chicken-fried steak, so future generations will know what killed us and why we died very happy.

The most infamous unplanned 30 seconds is probably the Creager Finger Incident.

January 31 2007 at 19:15:16
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: For a new time capsule?
Comments: I was given a "red neck panic button" for Xmas - has a good ole boy barking at bad drivers when one presses the button. Available at Spencer Gifts if they still have them in Tulsey. It might be good to put in a time capsule.

Really we need classic newscast and commercial airchecks on DVD or BluRay from each of the TV stations in town in there. Of course in 50 years - the technology may not be there to play any DVDs back!
Betcha Oral and Paul Harvey (along with the late Dr. Gene Scott) will still be seen and heard in 50 years! So no airchecks for them in there!

We saw Mike Judge's new movie on DVD this evening: "Idiocracy". It's the story of an average Joe who finds himself stored in what is effectively a time capsule, which is accidentally opened 500 years in the future. He finds that he is the smartest human in the world. The world of 2505 is disturbingly familiar and very funny.

When a studio tries to kill a movie by underpromoting it, that's the movie to seek out.

Maybe we should shoot for 500 years with our time capsule, drop in some Springer.

January 31 2007 at 19:06:38
Name: Terri G.
Topic: Time Capsule Contents
Email: ru4osu2@msn.com
Comments: I'd add to the list a chunk 'o stone from whatever might be left of Ma-Hu mansion; a Coney I-Lander coney in styrofoam; a gizzer-blinky (in honor of G.Sartain); a lock of Leon's hair; something from Ike's; a Bell's ticket stub; a comb, an ink pen, a bottle of Old Harper, a candy bar....

January 31 2007 at 19:03:02
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: Best non-sufferer of fools in Texas
Comments: I was saddened to hear that columnist/humorist Molly Ivins died at 62 from cancer in TX.

January 31 2007 at 17:11:56
Name: Wyatt
Topic: KMOD
Email: tww1@sbcglobal.net
Comments: I grew up near T-Town and starting in '74, there was NO other rock and roll FM station to listen to for me except KMOD. If you were lucky, you had a KMOD rainbow window sticker in the center of your back window. The one on my '72 Mercury was:
KMOD Quadraphonic 97.5.

You could spot all of us stoners because the sticker would be all foggy lookin', ha! Does anyone out there have one of those stickers laying around or even a picture of one. I spent 30 years looking for another '72 Mercury and found one last May. The only thing I need is the KMOD sticker to make it all a "flashback to the 70s."


January 31 2007 at 16:33:18
Name: Steve Bagsby
Topic: Time Capsule
Comments: How about a Yugo? Contents should include some Quittin' Time Beer, some stuff from Dollar General, and all sorts of those "Only $19.95" gadgets you see advertised on TV.

January 31 2007 at 13:05:05
Name: Charles Stevens
Topic: Time capsule
: I agree with Dana that we need to do another car. In the car I would be sure to put a set of the Jack Frank Tulsa historical videos AND the recipe for TPS Bean Chowder!!!!

January 31 2007 at 11:51:37
Name: Dana LeMoine
Topic: Time Capsule
Email: d4wdwatvalornet.com
Comments: I vote that they should bury another car. But this time make it a Corvette!

January 31 2007 at 11:45:04
Name: Erick
Topic: Time Capsule
Comments: What to put in a time capsule?

How about a flash drive containing everything on TTM?

And a six pack of Natural Light in the trunk, just for fun.

January 31 2007 at 10:26:34
Name: David Bagsby
Topic: Time encapsulation
Email: dcbatsunflower.com
Comments: Need to have a can of Wolf Brand Chili and a big 'ol steamin' fist.

When the Plymouth comes out, maybe we could stick these items in and reseal the time capsule for 2057.

January 31 2007 at 10:20:25
Name: James Dalphonse
Topic: Al Clauser/Alvera Records
Email: bullhead3031@yahoo.com
Comments: Whatever happened to the masters of Alvera Records?

Patty Goodman, Pat Swinney, Mike Pachecho, and others. I used to promote for that label. I understand that Mr. Clauser passed away sometime ago, shortly after his wife Vera did.

Does anyone know anything further about this label. If so, please e-mail me.

We'd like to hear about it here, too.

January 31 2007 at 10:09:43
Name: Jeff H
Topic: 2007 Time Capsule
Comments: I would put Henry Primeaux in the Time Capsule, dig it up in fifty years and he would still be SELF PROMOTING!

Oh!, I hope this is politically correct?

January 31 2007 at 09:26:31
Name: Ken Harwood
Topic: Time Capsule Contribution
Email: jayhawken@aol.com
Comments: What would I put in a time capsule?

A copy of the Constitution of the United States.

A pothole.

A fully functional Sonic restaurant (who'd miss the one selected for this anyway?).

I may have to add a can of worms to the list.

January 31 2007 at 09:14:20
Name: Webmaster
Topic: Previous GroupBlog summary
Comments: Archived GroupBlog 230.

The webmaster had just posed the question of what you would put in a 2007 Tulsa time capsule. Tulsa "jerk joints" (foosball parlors) were discussed.

We saw a royal portrait of King Lionel, drawn by one of the country's top artists (Tom Loepp painted an official portrait of Chief Justice Rehnquist as well).

The dismantling of Bell's Amusement Park continues; Phantasmagoria is no more.

Tulsa new wave band The Insects (later known as Radio Milan) was seen performing on KTUL's "Night Shift" in 1984 via Google video. Classical/jazz/old time/public radio was discussed.

Sad news: Mark O'Connell of KRAV and KGCT-Channel 41 passed away.

We heard about a drunken speech given by Chill Wills at a past Roy Clark fundraiser.

All that and more in GroupBlog 230.

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