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April 28 2005 at 22:36:01
Name: Erick
Email: ericktul@yahoo.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: Just tuned in to NewsChannel 8 at 10pm, and caught the end of a story on former KTUL sports reporter Becky Dixon as part of Channel 8's 50th anniversary celebration.

After the story, current sports director Mike Ziegenhorn was at the news set, standing next to former sports director Chris Lincoln, who proceeded to tease the upcoming sports segment. After the commercial, he did the complete sports report, and was great. During sports, he tossed to Becky Dixon herself, who did a story on a local female golfer. I don't think any other KTUL alum took part in tonight's newscast, but they did announce the winner of the Gusty drawing they gave away during the news.

I think the 10 o'clock news repeats at 1:35am, if anyone sees this in time and wants to set their VCR or TiVo.

April 28 2005 at 14:59:56
Name: Webmaster
Comments: I added a couple of Indian photos from Louise Bland to her note below.

April 28 2005 at 11:32:52
Name: Joyce Richardson
Comments: Hi, here's another site you might like. Under bowling alleys is a nice tribute to the Rose Bowl with some good pictures.


He also has motels, coffee shops and signage of the past.

That is a good one.

April 27 2005 at 10:06:31
Name: ALZ
Email: zarrowmail-abandonedtulsa@yahoo.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: Thought some of you might be interested in a newly started project taking a look at historically significant abandoned or forgotten buildings in Tulsa. Take a look at:


If you've got a great idea for a subject, please email it to the above address.

Thanks, Alison.

April 26 2005 at 17:59:12
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: Don't know how many of you know that the Tulsa Historical Society has several dated but good videos on Tulsa. I was just given a copy of their 1995 "Stuff that's Gone" video with "doctor" Lee Woodward and a lot of KAKC and John Chick video that I had not seen before. They say all are for sale at Steve's Sundries in Tulsa.

Here's the THS website:


My brother came across this website on early videotape technology:


April 26 2005 at 12:10:52
Name: Mike Sly
Email: slyxx@attglobal.net
Location: TEXAS
Comments: I'm trying to find a baseball team known as the OILERS. The logo was a large O with the letters "ilers" on the inside of the O or vertical to it. Not sure of the dates, maybe in the late 30's or 40's. Not really sure of the state in fact. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Of course, we had the Tulsa Oilers, but their logo doesn't look that way in their uniforms of 1939-40.

April 26 2005 at 08:37:18
Name: CherOkie Boy
Location: 3rd chair from the left at Steve's Sundries soda fountain
Comments: Speaking of 3rd chair, that's just about where I sat in Charles Dickerson's band class at Gilcrease Jr. High about 19and67. Anyone know what became of him? He was one terrific showman.

April 25 2005 at 20:55:26
Name: Si Hawk
Email: siborg54@sbcglobal.net
Location: Tulsa
Comments: Mike -

Many thanks for the "Java Christmas Card" link on the main site page. There are several nice comments regarding the Hawk Dairy store that used to be at 11th and Lewis. I had some really great times there as a young lad. I know the comments would have made Granddad quite pleased. Thanks again for your enjoyable site.

You are welcome, Si.

April 25 2005 at 20:04:25
Name: Louise Bland
Email: l.bland@sbcglobal.net
Location: Dallas
Comments: Edwin, I love your story about your grandmother being a medicine women. In my TV day, I had these wonderful people on often. I've attended their parties when everyone would be in full dress including the children. What a privilege to see you online.

Did you ever hear of the cartoonist who did "Little Chief?." He was for real, carried his "bow" to parties like mine.

That would be Brummett Echohawk. Rodney Echohawk told us about him in Guestbook 96.

Louise Bland with Shawnee chief
Louise Bland with Wolf Robe, an Acoma Pueblo Indian from New Mexico

Once I attended one of the Tribe Celebrations in Shawnee.
I'll always remember how wonderful everyone was to each other.

Lamont and Lance Laird
Lamont and Lance Laird danced on Louise's show

See that little guy today on the Eastern Shawnee Tribe web site.

April 25 2005 at 17:53:49
Name: edwin
Location: yes sir
Comments: And Dr. Starr delivered me in the basement of the Drumrite police station with the assist of my medicine woman Grandmother.

April 25 2005 at 17:25:25
Name: Louise Bland
Location: Dallas
Comments: The name "Safety First" is Indian. He was a heart doctor. That makes it even more interesting.

April 25 2005 at 16:35:34
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: I think earlier here we talked about folks with "unique" names - like John Darling at KGMC way back when. But Oralee's name tops them all. Though doctors Orange Starr and Safety First are 2 of my Oklahoma favorites!

To those of KWGS Subterrania daze - "The Cream" is having a re-union concert in London next week. I thought Ginger Baker was dead - nope. Former KOTV/KTUL engineer, Stewart Odell, is off to see it in London and I will try to get a word outta him on his return.

April 25 2005 at 16:08:26
Name: Kenneth
Location: Tulsa
Comments: A very late post in answer to the Webmaster's question about Oralee. Her last name was Attaway. She was a cheery, attractive gal...kinda tall and always bright-eyed and smiling. Sometime after she left TV I saw her and her husband at a shopping mall and she had that vacant, far-away look that comes with the early stages of Alzheimers. Soon after that I read where she had passed away. This was 1997 I believe.

April 25 2005 at 14:58:20
Name: George Tomek
Email: mranchor@cox.net
Location: George Tomek at KTVY, Channel 4, OKC, 1976Edmond, OK
Comments: Sorry to get in on the tail end of this shaggy dog argument about stringers and photographers at KOTV. Since my name was mentioned about clarification, I'll try to clarify and not confuse.

Henry Lile was steady, dependable, friendly and very professinal. Glen Raines was a superb professional. Jim Tinkler was a smart-ass but good stringer and a real hustler. Pat O'Dell was a great photographer for whom I put in a well-deserved good word to be hired. (Pat was a shortstop on the TU baseball team when I was a pitcher in 1960) I'm glad he got the job and although I don't see him on a fairly regular basis as I used to, it's good to know he and Ron Hagler are still doing great things for the "blood shot eye" network.

Nobody mentioned Gene Jackson who was the resident film processor and also photographer at KOTV in the early '60's. Gene, like a lot of others I'm sure, has gone on to that Great Dry Box in the Sky.

By the way, most of us also shot film back then. When Roger Sharp took me to Chicago as his photographer for the GOP Convention in 1960, our equipment one evening caused quite a fuss on the Convention floor. The battery pack that powered the camera started to boil over, fume and smoke. I guess by today's standards, we could have been a couple of terrorists whose scheme went awry.

April 25 2005 at 14:33:17
Name: Frank Morrow
Email: frankmorrow12@yahoo.com
Location: Austin
Comments: I was out of the country in the Navy when Tulsa TV really got going big time. I never heard of Mazeppa until I read about it on this web site. However, in re-reading one of my Russian history books recently, I was startled when I saw that Mazeppa is a significant name in Russian history. He was a seventeenth-century Ukrainian hero-separatist who led an unsuccessful but significant revolt. Tchaikovsky even wrote an opera about Mazeppa.

I mentioned parenthetically on the 1971 Mazeppa interview page that Lord Byron wrote a poem called "Mazeppa", and that Tchaikovsky's opera was based on Pushkin's poem "Poltava," which depicted Mazeppa in both his political and romantic exploits.

April 25 2005 at 13:36:09
Name: Don Norton
Email: donaldhnorton@hotmail.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: Thanks to Mike Miller for backing me up on Jim Tinkler (see below) I didn't catch it until I wrote my response to Jim Hartz's posting.

April 25 2005 at 13:28:33
Name: Don Norton
Email: donaldhnorton@hotmail.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: (For Jim Hartz)

I was and am well aware of Henry Lile's contributions ("a legend in his own time") but I was speaking of a time slightly before the one you refer to--just after the arrival of Roger Sharp (1959), and not at all of the "golden period" of KOTV photographers, of which I am somewhat aware though working out of town at the time. Perhaps George Tomek will clarify this for you. But your eagerness to defend fellow employees against any and all criticism speaks well for you as an administrator.

April 25 2005 at 11:49:58
Name: Webmaster
Comments: Boing Boing just featured a recently-added TTM page about Ideal Robot Commando toys pressed into service by THRUSH on "The Man From U.N.C.L.E."

April 25 2005 at 09:00:12
Name: Charles
Location: The discount aisle at Robert Hall Clothes
Comments: The Looboyle that Mike Bruchas remembers being out East on 21st was in the Forum Mall on 21st (3 or 4 blocks East of Garnett). I worked at the movie theater (the Forum Twin) in that mall for a number of years. The Looboyle eventualy closed and was replaced by a Sears Surplus strore.

The Forum was actually a pretty nice little mall. It had an enclosed mall area and several shops. The only ones I can remember at the moment besides Looboyle and the theater are a Chinese restaurant (China Doll?) and a neat little magic store. I met many interesting people through that job including many members of the projectionists labor union (a union of motion picture machine operators and theatrical stage employees).

April 24 2005 at 13:49:12
Name: Louise Oelenberger Bland
Email: l.bland@sbcglobal.net
Location: Louise Bland todayDallas

Jim, do you remember the Oelenberger family? We used to attend your dad's church when we were small. My dad who spoke several languages, spent many hours talking to your dad on our front porch. I'm so happy to see you and know you're posting on TTM.

Next comes Mike Miller, who was a blessing to KTUL. His dad owned the famous "Lew Miller" dance studio, where everyone including me learned to dance. You both brought a smile to my face this morning. I'm happy to see you.

Here is Louise's new page on this site.

April 23 2005 at 22:08:25
Name: Jim Hartz
Email: jimhartz@verizon.net
Location: Jim Hartz
Comments: I think Don Norton has his free-lance photographers of the 1950s and 1960 mixed up.

Henry Lile was the premier free-lancer in Tulsa at the time, and he only worked for KOTV, where I was news director. He was a Rainbow Bread deliveryman, and thus was up at all hours of the night and early morning. He also was a private pilot and owned his own airplane, which we used often to cover stories outside of Tulsa.

Nobody, including Henry Lile, ran rings around the KOTV cameramen - Pat O'Dell, Ron Hagler and Glenn Raines. And no stringer was ever paid more money than a staffer.

Pat O'Dell left KOTV in the 60s to become a CBS News cameraman. He is still on staff based in Dallas. Ron Hagler is his soundman. Both were in the camera truck leading the Inaugural Parade down Pennsylvania Avenue earlier this year.

Jim's TTM page.

April 23 2005 at 21:58:15
Name: Mike Miller
Email: michaelmmiller@hotmail.com
Location: Mike Miller, courtesy of Mike BruchasNear Houston
Comments: To Don Norton. I covered many a spot news story with Jim Tinkler. He usually arrived on the scene of a fire or bad accident well before anybody else, including police.

He always seemed to be shooting for a TV station AND the World. I think he slept with the police monitors going. He and Henry Lile were competitors with Henry shooting for KOTV. When I was at KVOO-TV, Tinkler shot most of our stringer film. As I recall, News Director Austin Schneider didn't particularly like Tinkler, but bought his film, nonetheless. Wish I could remember more.

Here is Mike Miller on the Channel 2 election set, circa 1964.

Mike Bruchas shot the picture at left in January 2001 in 10 degree weather and 20mph wind.

April 23 2005 at 16:48:22
Name: Melissa Backward
Email: melissabackward@yahoo.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: I remember Woolco being in Southroads mall. Does anyone remember Jubilee City that was in the same shopping center where Casa Bonita is at 21st and Sheridan? I only remember two locations for Looboyle's. A great shop, by the way. One at 11th and Xanthus and one later in the Southroads Mall.

That was Shopper's Fair in the Casa Bonita shopping center (to see the logo, scroll down a little on the Oom-A-Gog page). Jubilee City was on the north side of Admiral between Sheridan and Memorial. It's now Super-T Bingo.

April 23 2005 at 14:51:37
Name: Erick
Email: ericktul@yahoo.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: As I recall, Woolco locations became Venture sometime in the early-mid 80's. Venture went bankrupt in the very late 90's, as I remember the location at 21st & Sheridan (now a DirecTV call center) closed in '98 or '99 before briefly becoming a flea market.

As a youngster and a teen, I remember Tulsa being KMart heavy during trips here. Growing up in OKC, the closest KMart was in Shawnee. If I'm not mistaken, there are now just 2 KMart locations in Tulsa proper (and always plenty of good parking available when I go to one).

Short side note since I'm already off-topic...

KTSO 94.1 has changed formats...again. They are now playing a decent mix of 60's 70's and 80's music. Probably the only station in town where you can go from Roundabout by Yes to Roll With It by Steve Winwood. It's actually good listening.

April 23 2005 at 13:50:21
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: Add Woolco to a list of VANISHED chain stores but on a national scale! When I lived in Amariilo - the Woolco there might be on par floorspace-wise with a Wally World of today. It had mall and 2 street entrances. They may still be in Austrlia I heard. When KMart went bankrupt - KMart Australia was not affected and a big sports sponsor "down under".

Didn't we have a FedMart for while in Tulsa? Remember GulfMart? When they opened the first Target by the Fairgrounds - we figured Sears was their "Target" in that location.

I still have a "soft vinvl" suitcase somewhere that I bought for $18 - made in the USA - in the 70's and bought at the "new" Target. The b&w TV bought at Sears around the same time - sadly did not last 5 years - a fine USA-assembled Whirlpool set!

April 23 2005 at 13:15:33
Name: Zach's Mom
Location: Sitting in my car outside Tastee Freeze enjoying a dipped cone
Comments: Did Looboyle take over the Belscott store up in north Tulsa? I cant seem to remember. Also, Belscott was called something else before it was Belscott, or so I thought..does anyone know what it was?

Does anyone remember the Woolco stores? Those were great.

April 23 2005 at 12:42:50
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: Non-TV tangent. Howard's and Gibson's - the latter later Gibco. Do any still exist? They pre-dated "Wally World" by maybe 5 years.

Okay Tulsans - help me! How many Looboyle locations were in Tulsa? 11th and Xanthus, SouthRoads Mall - downstairs, something way out east on 21st - but I think weren't there 4 or 5 stores in its hey day? This should be a lot easier than namin' all the OTASCO locations in Tulsey.

April 23 2005 at 12:21:20
Name: Don Norton
Email: donaldhnorton@hotmail.com
Location: Tulsa
Comments: I'd better get this appeal out while someone besides George Tomek and Bill Hyden remembers who I'm asking about:

JIM TINKLER was a free-lance photographer in Tulsa in the late 1950s and early 1960s. He ran rings around KOTV, KTUL and KVOO-TV photographers for overnight coverage of big events. The late KOTV manager George Stevens is said to have remarked, half-seriously, that he paid Tinkler (at footage use and film replacement) more money than he paid the photographers then on the KOTV news staff.

Eventually, staff photographers "shaped up" and Tinkler moved on to the Tulsa World's photography staff. About that time I left for Texas and Louisiana and I lost track.

Any recollections would be appreciated.

April 23 2005 at 11:54:08
Name: Mike Bruchas
Comments: Greg Leslie - among the stuff I did for awhile at KGMC - ch. 34 - in OKC was the BOB MILLS Country Music Show. It ran on 34 after many years on 4. Too many anecdotes about it - I can't post here. It was very surreal from behind the camera/control room.

We also did some TRUST HOUSE inserts that aired in 34's late night weekend movies. Jim and his wife were okay and though we had been told that "Snakeman and Voodoo Woman" were a pain to work with.

April 22 2005 at 13:13:35
Name: John Young
Email: johnk662561atyahoodotcom
Location: Looboyle's, looking for a Zebco 33 reel
Comments: Joyce...

I remember "Gran'pa John's Bargain Barn" like it was yesterday! They had, as you said, a hodge-podge of EVERYTHING. My grandmother was living with us at the time and I remember her going there to get these HUGE crocks to make pickles in. She also bought a crock dash butter churn. Mom used to go there to get ALL of her cast iron cookware. I think they carried the "Lodge" brand of cast iron.

To a kid of 6 or 7, Gran'pa Johns was an absolute delight! Just walking around LOOKING at all the stuff was overwhelming. It was like looking at a direct hit on commissary bargain basement!

The site that Gran'pas was at later became home to "Mud Dobbers" ceramics and is now some sort of other type of business. I don't know why Gran'pa John went out of business, but I sure wish there were still a store like his today!

Speaking of Sapulpa memories...anyone remember the old Gibson's Discount store that was on South Main where the Vo-Tech is now? I'm not sure if they closed up before or after Wal-Mart came to town, but I DO remember going with my dad to their "Going Out of Business" sale. I think my folks bought most (if not all) of my school supplies at Gibson's when I was in 1st and 2nd grade.

April 22 2005 at 10:28:29
Name: Webmaster
Comments: Someone over at the HurricaneAlert.com message board started a thread about Tulsa memories. I think we've covered most of them here, but one caught my eye: "2 About Town with Oralee". The 1961 TV schedule shows her at 12:15 pm, opposite Louise Bland and Betty Boyd. What was Oralee's last name?

April 22 2005 at 10:12:37
Name: Louise Bland
Email: l.bland@sbcglobal.net
Location: Dallas

I'm with Greg Leslie when it comes to Nora Owens. All the people you're talking about are ones I worked with in some way. Nora was a real money maker as an account executive with one of the big agencies. Pat Shockey was a personal friend, she owned a small modeling agency and commentated fashion shows once in a while. She was never much in television.

Steve Shockey learned his technique at Channel 4, called WKY-TV in that day. He hung around the top directors, one being Bob Rodkey. By the way, Steve is working at the moment with the old production company formally owned by Tom Krotel, who died of cancer not many months ago. He was one of the best with fashion, but never learned the computer, necessary in production. He refused and was a rebel. I'll start my own production company and do it the way he told his friends and did exactly that, calling it "Red Mountain."

Careful about calling our 15 minute programs (fillers) you technical guys have your own language, but a 15 minute program was and still is the most common opening for local shows. We refer to fillers as 2 or 3 minutes on things like "How to cook a turkey."

April 21 2005 at 20:55:02
Name: Greg Leslie
Email: myname at yahoo dot com
Location: Broken Arrow
Comments: Wow -- Nora was the Scott's Liquid Gold spokesperson? News to me! I hit KTVY (then newly KFOR from WKY) around 1978 as an intern, so I must've missed the Nora Show...

...I -did- do plenty of Bob Mills (The Workin' Man's Friend -- Come See Us) Furniture, Smicklas Chevrolet, Taco Mayo and Pull-A-Part spots for Nora and Howard.

Funny, earlier tonight my wife and I were reminiscing about the "good old days" at KTVY, running camera on high-contrast art cards stapled to a big movable board called "the titanic", and rolling out yards and yards of seamless paper to shoot Anthony's clothing spots. Nothing virtual in those days...

April 21 2005 at 20:51:43
Name: Jim Reid
Location: About 4 hours south of the site of the Delman Theater
Comments: The Delman Theater chain was started by a man named Isadore Adelman. He just dropped the A off his last name. There were Delman Theaters in Tulsa, Dallas, Houston and several in California.

Jim, your comment led me to this case at FindLaw.com that pretty well lays out the business history of early movie theaters in Tulsa.

April 21 2005 at 18:59:08
Name: Don Lundy
Email: don_lundy@rtv6.com
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Comments: Mike Bruchas: How in the world do you remember all this minutiae from our days at Channel 8? I thought I was paying some attention but must bow to the master.

April 21 2005 at 18:44:36
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: DC
Comments: KTUL tried different fillers or 15min. programs after the MORNING MOVIE in the early '70's. One was something like "Fashions in Sewing" from LewRon TV in NYC. KTUL had a brief link with LewRon - Jimmy Leake was leasing their big remote truck which had just done all of the Watergate hearings for ABC. It had been leased to a televangelist (Rex Humbard?) in Ohio and I guess he had several leased trucks - to "cover his ministry". So he somehow sub-leased the truck to KTUL. Ed Morris was the truck engineer for its brief stint at KTUL.

Another filler, was some show trying to be syndicated by an OKC ad agency. It had Nora Owens - then the current spokesperson for "Scott's Liquid Gold". Either KTVY did it or KTVT in Dallas did. Maybe Greg Leslie will remember. We only ran these filler shows when KTUL was near "sold-out" in advertising space. Maybe it was a trade-out for the Scott's ad account...I think OKC fixture Pat Schocke tried doing something too. Her son, Steve, had a video production biz for a while in OKC.

We never ran cartoons as movie fillers but a couple late late nights when movies were mis-timed - we snuck one in before sign-off, because going to a commercial break and cold to sign-off never made any sense to our young minds. We logged it of course and no one in Traffic ever noticed!

As I recall 8 ran 1 movie Friday night and for a while 2 movies on Saturday nights...Our KTUL movies still were 10x better than what KOTV ran (Thank YOU! Bob Hower!!) or the cruddy CBS Late Night Movie mixed with Kojak and Hawaii 5-0 re-runs weeknights.

April 21 2005 at 13:13:56
Name: Louise Bland
Email: l.bland@sbcglobal.net
Location: Dallas

Mike Ransom, I'm in total awe with the history you've added to the photos of such actors as Jeff Chandler, Tex Ritter and others. It's so much fun to click and read these interesting stories.

I especially enjoyed the one about Johnny Weissmuller, the original Tarzan. When I get caught up, I'll send others if you have room. Until then -

Thank you, for giving the Louise Bland show its page in Tulsa TV Memories.

You are welcome. Thanks for sharing your remembrances, and please write more about your experiences and your show whenever you feel like it, Louise.

April 21 2005 at 13:11:24
Name: Joyce Richardson
Comments: Hi,
I tried the black bottom pie and it was wonderful, although quite a bit of work!!!(Worth every second)

Does anyone remember anything else on the Pennington's menu besides the black bottom pie? I remember the menu was large, but no other food comes to mind to me or anyone else I've talked to. They must have sold other food. Help!?!

Does anyone besides me remember Grandpa John's variety store on the edge of Tulsa heading towards Sapulpa? I know they closed in the 70s sometime and I can't remember specifically what they sold. Seems like a hodge-podge of everything.

Can anyone tell me how the Delman was named? My husband's name is Delman and he never heard of the word other than his own name and was surprised to hear it being a theater also.

Any one remember Marathon candy bars? I'd love to see a wrapper, had one stashed away in a scrap book for years. Wrapper, that is, not candy bar.

What happened to the "How did you find TTM?" line?

That question got dropped over time, but any reader may answer it if she wishes.

Here is an ad for Marathon bars featuring Patrick Wayne (John's son) as "Marathon John".

Pennington's was also renowned for their fried shrimp, onion rings, and cherry limeade.

April 21 2005 at 11:27:04
Name: John Young
Email: johnk662561atyahoodotcom
Location: Waiting In Line at the Admiral Twin
Comments: I just saw on the KTUL website that The Admiral Twin won the Hampton Inn contest!! They will be getting $20,000 in refurbishments! This is great to see!

Good work, all who voted online for the Twin.

April 21 2005 at 09:45:00
Name: Charles
Location: Fargo, N.D.
Comments: I just ran across Jamie Oldaker's web site. It looks to be in development, but already has some interesting stuff on it.

If you are not familiar with Jamie, he is a Tulsan who has played drums with Clapton, Bob Seger, Leon, and Peter Frampton to name a few. He mentions an upcoming film and album on his site called "Mad Dogs & Okies". His site is JamieOldaker.com.

In the late 70s, Jamie regularly played here in a jazz-oriented band called "Essence" with Faulkner Evans on piano, Tommy Lokey on trumpet and Dean DeMerritt on bass.

April 21 2005 at 05:17:53
Name: Si Hawk
Email: siborg54@sbcglobal.net
Location: Tulsa
Comments: Mike - Thanks for the correction. You are quite right, KTBA did offer AOR prior to KMOD. KMOD was first only in that alternate universe where Marconi was the first Chief Engineer for KVOO. Thanks for keeping me in line.

April 20 2005 at 23:31:53
Name: Frank Morrow
Email: frankmorrow12@yahoo.com
Location: Austin
Comments: I was just looking at the KRMG page which is now under re-construction. In it there was a statement that John Doremus started his career at KRMG. Actually John previously had been at KOME. Lots of people were starting there on the way up to better things. KOME had deteriorated greatly since the great days of people like Dick Campbell, Harlan Judkins and Greg Chancellor.

I also notice that someone mentioned KRMG-FM. When did KRMG acquire an FM transmitter? I wasn't aware of it when I was there in 1956 and 1957. I knew only of KTUL and KAKC as the only commercial stations that also had an FM transmitter. They carried identical programming. When I was at KAKC we always gave both AM and FM call letters during station breaks, but never at KTUL. We were never aware of FM until sometime someone would say, "It's time to sign off on FM." In the 3 and 1/2 years I was there, I never did this.

These broadcasters only kept the FM side around for the day sometime in the future when there would be some FM receivers in town. KWGS was like broadcasting in a sealed closet.

Frank, I amended that comment about John Doremus to include his start at KOME.

Chuck Fullhart stated in Guestbook 46: "KWEN, in those days, was the stepchild of AM sister, KRMG, and was actually KRMG-FM, when I started there." Si Hawk also just mentioned it in Guestbook 181.

April 19 2005 at 19:20:11
Name: Webmaster
Comments: Archived Guestbook 181...

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