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Time: June 16 2003 at 23:40:02
Name: Lowell Burch
Location: Wipin' BBQ sauce offa my face
Comments: Oh, yeah, PLAZA Three, not Eastland 3. Duh. I'm getting old timers, I guess.

Most of the best BBQ places in town are not listed in the phone book. Big Daddy's is sure a good stop.

I flew to Boise one time and spent a week in the area one time. When the locals asked me about Tulsa, I had an Oklahoma Today or some such rag with me. They were very impressed with the photographs of Green Country, especially since their concept of this part of the country was nothing like the reality of it.

I would like to go to the Celebrity Club but my political affiliation forces me to eat Popeye's.

Time: June 16 2003 at 20:28:37
Name: Dan Wright
Location: Yakima Wa
Comments: Thanks for the info on the theatre. This may be a little off topic but does anyone know the story on the current renovations on the Mayo Hotel? Are they planning on putting back the round interior colums later or are they just going to leave them square.

Time: June 16 2003 at 20:23:22
Name: Jim Reid
Location: Dallas
Comments: You can't talk Tulsa hamburgers without bringing up Claude's on Peoria. "We grind our own meat" is painted on the windows, and if you stand in the right place you can read it and see the Ninde Funeral Home sign reflected right underneath it.

By the way, is the Eastside Cafe still around? It was on Admiral between Delaware and Harvard.

Yes, it is.

Time: June 16 2003 at 17:09:32
Name: Steve Bagsby
Location: Soppin' gravy at Tally's
Comments: Yikes! All this talk of food is making me hungry! There may need to be a food page on this site. It was a sad day when Der Wienerschnitzels closed up. Ate many a Polish Sandwich. And I remember Sambo's handing out these little wooden "Coffee Coins" - good for a free cup with your next visit. At one time, Tulsa had what seemed like thousands of little neighborhood lunch counters. We had the "Short Stop" cafe on 11th St. and Jerry's Grill at the Rose Bowl. Both specializing in greasy hamburgers with Steeeeenky Onions!

Time: June 16 2003 at 15:02:03
Name: Harry Lime
Location: Sun Valley, Idaho
Comments: Of Tulsa's booms and their headliner cafes, one of the first, brought on by the Red Fork strike in 1901, could have been the "Starback Saddle."

The second, a result of the larger and more influential discovery at Glenpool in 1905, was the "Big Four Short Order House."

A few years later, but before the explosion at Cushing in 1912 that solidified Tulsa's oil reputation and guaranteed that the Hotel Tulsa at 3rd and Cincinatti would become the premier lobby in America for making oil lease deals, there flourished the most popular boom cafe of all, perhaps, offering 'home cooking for everybody that's hungry.' Located near 1st and Main and close to the rail spur to Glenpool, catering to oil field workers with packed cold chicken lunches to go, it was called "The Pig's Ear" and was quite a star of early day folklore.

Time: June 16 2003 at 12:41:53
Name: Charles
Location: Robert Hall Clothes @ the Traffic Circle
Comments: The theater at 21st and 129th was called the Plaza Three.

Time: June 16 2003 at 11:32:13
Name: Kenneth
Location: Tulsa
Comments: Was there a Walker's Cafe back in the oil-drilling days? I heard it was famous.

Time: June 16 2003 at 11:25:03
Name: Deric Davis
Location: Lunch
Comments: Does anyone remember Flakey Jake's ? I think they were south of 71st on Memorial. I believe they were the first to occupy the ever changing resstaraunt building there that most recently hosted Billy Ray or Billy Bob's BBQ? Tulsa Brewing Company was there for a while.

BTW: I found a little page for a still standing & operating Crystal's Pizza in Irving, Texas. The logo is there, and is a fairly good graphic representation of the signage we used to love.


Good one!

Time: June 16 2003 at 09:59:16
Name: Harry Lime
Location: Sun Valley, Idaho
Comments: Mr. Burch is right about Idaho's having potatos and right wing militants, but it also has in Larry Craig the dumbest man in the US Senate, and, as everybody knows, this is where Janet Leigh was discovered for Hollywood.

It's also rich but hardly ancient in history. This area, for example, with a population of fewer than 5,000, goes all the way back to 1936 when Averill Harriman---diplomat, presidential chum, international ladies man, owner of the Union Pacific railroad with a fortune of $100 million---decided that America should have a European-like ski resort and chose Sun Valley to become the first one.

By 1939, Hemingway had come to stay (on and off for 20-plus years), along with visitors like David Niven, Gary Cooper and Darryl Zanuck. Still other notables that put down roots included MGM's Norma Shearer, the Irving Thalberg widow. Also rushing in were European ski bums by the hundreds, most of whom were very poor and searching for rich America women they could propose to on the slopes. We were honored too in the early days by the occasional presence of mobster Bugsy Siegel, and after his Luciano-ordered, five-bullets-to-the-head death in the late 40's, we were glad to welcome as a permanent resident, his sweet and tough as nails mistress, Virginia Hill. She seldom said no and brought long nights of smiles to many chalets; in time, she married a European ski instructor. Both later committed suicide, as did Hemingway in 1961. He's buried just down the road a little south of here, at Ketchum.

We don't have nearly as many downtown parking lots as Tulsa, but we do have mountains, out of this world trout streams, fresh air on demand, and here in Sun Valley, say local poets, stealing a line from e.e. cummings, 'even the flowers pick themselves.'

Time: June 16 2003 at 08:32:33
Name: Harry Lime
Location: Sun Valley, Idaho
Comments: The Celebrity Club on a site of sacred fried chicken? Who would have thought it? One era's drumstick becomes another's quail & champagne. (no, they are distinct: the CC is at 31st & Yale; Golden Drumstick was at 11th & Yale...webmaster)

I remember the Celebrity Club as one-stop satisfaction with pianists in tuxedos and quasi-sophisticates atwitter, Caesar salads at tableside and prohibition-defying ambience.

That was where Homer Jones had his last supper as OU football coach. It was a night of scotch by the bucketsful, his looking both aloof and condemned, getting solace from several friends and never even glancing at the dining room curious---like me. The next morning his firing was announced and the gates swung open for Fairbanks, Switzer, the tumult and the shouting.

Lee Woodward used to stop off at the Celebrity Clab after the 10 pm KOTV newscast and keep his voice tuned up with the pianist there.

The Drumstick was owned by Bob Latting, who gave chicken dinners as prizes on his 50s local TV show, Kids Karnival.

Time: June 16 2003 at 08:01:54
Name: Lowell Burch
Location: The Home of Potatos and Right-wing Militants ... or is that Idaho?
Comments: The Eastland 3, once nearly destroyed by a tornado, is the theater now occupied by the church on 21st and 129th. They had three separate entrances, all leading to the same lobby.

Nice picture of the Chuc Wagun. Forgot all about it.

The World Weekly News reports that our favorite Jewish comedy team, The Three Stooges, will be granted Sainthood my the Vatican. About time!

Have you ever had a real Idaho potato? They are delicious! Bake and eat, no enhancements needed.

Time: June 16 2003 at 07:24:06
Name: Erick
Location: Tulsa
Comments: I am perhaps one of the lucky few that lives literally 50 feet away from a Goldie's. When that south wind blows that aroma into the house...MMMMM!!!

Does anyone remember Big Ed's Hamburgers? I don't know if there was any locations in Tulsa, but there were several in OKC. The burgers were about the size of a large pizza and very tasty.

Re: KOMA...the AM side has gone news/talk, but the FM side is still 50's-60's oldies. It is widely regarded as the standard by which to program a true oldies station.

Time: June 16 2003 at 02:25:56
Name: Richard Eby
Location: Sweden
Comments: Dave Harmon mentioned Fred's on Harvard, a 3 or 4- stooler. The owners were Harold and Margie Beale, who took turns cooking. They were both wonderful people ... Margie passed away sometime in the late 60's, Harold closed the restaurant some time later. A post in an earlier guestbook mentioned the Circle Barbershop - I always thought it was named Barnes Barber Shop. The three barbers were Mr. Barnes (oldest), Mr. Webb, and Mr. Mason (the youngest). Heard years later that Mason became a minister.

-Regards from Sweden-

Time: June 16 2003 at 01:38:42
Name: Dave Harmon
Location: Land of Fruits & Nuts
Comments: On Susan's Chuc Wagon post there is a link added by the webmaster. In the center top of that pix there is a Shleppey billboard. I lived next door to Mrs. Shleppey at 2617 E. 22nd St. Her property extended behind my house and I used to fly model airplanes back there quite a bit. As I recall, she was pretty grouchy and never associated with anyone as far as I know. There are two, new homes built where her home used to be and her driveway is now S. Birmingham....where I played with my toys has some crummy houses on it now.....


Time: June 16 2003 at 01:36:03
Name: Frank Morrow
Location: Austin. TX
Comments: There were no better hamburgers in town than the ones at "Hamburger King" at 34th and Peoria. That was my bus stop before my half mile walk home down 34th to Riverside Dr. The burgers were huge, and they would fry the onions in, if you wanted them to.

I remember being really angry when the price went up from 10 cents to 15.

Time: June 16 2003 at 01:15:31
Name: Dave Harmon
Location: We Gotta Get Outta This Place
Comments: Sambo's.....good grief...I had forgotten all about that place.

There used to be a Sambo's a couple of blocks away from here and I would occasionally stop in there....there was always a long wait though because the flies had occupied all the booths and tables. Today, many years later, things have improved some at that location because the flies have to take an number before they are served. There is still a row of 12 bug zappers near the entrance and it sounds like the 4th of July year round!

Time: June 15 2003 at 22:22:27
Name: Dan Wright
Location: Yakima
Comments: I had always thought the Celebrity Club was in the Golden Drumstick's old building. But seeing the difference in addresses I guess I was wrong.

On another subject, near Eastland Mall there is a church that is located in a former movie theatre. Does anyone know the name of the theatre? It closed sometime in the 1980's. It has a curved front if that helps.

Time: June 15 2003 at 21:56:18
Name: Susan
Location: Oklahoma
Comments: The Golden Drumstick (I believe there was only one) closed many years ago but had wonderful fried chicken. The Celebrity Club at 31st and Yale is still in operation (at least the last time I drove by).

That's right, and the Golden Drumstick building is long gone.

Here is a great picture of the Drumstick, formerly at the NE corner of 11th & Yale.

Time: June 15 2003 at 19:38:51
Name: Dan Wright
Location: Yakima Washington
Comments: The Golden Drumstick is still standing, is it not? I think it is now called the Celebrity Club.

Time: June 15 2003 at 19:07:06
Name: Susan
Location: Oklahoma
Comments: Does anyone remember the "Chuc Wagun" drive-in? I think it was located around 11th and Utica. The Golden Drumstick at 11th and Yale (later the Middle Path Cafe), and McMinn's Grocery on the corner of 15th and Memorial? McMinn's was a favorite place to go and buy penny candy!

Here is a good photo of the 11th and Lewis Chuc Wagun. For future search purposes, I'll include the incorrect spelling of "Chuck Wagon" here

Time: June 15 2003 at 18:52:11
Name: Wilhelm Murg
Location: on the web
Comments: Here's a story on the Sambo's chain and an attempt to bring it back


Time: June 15 2003 at 16:43:39
Name: Dan Wright
Location: Yakima Washington
Comments: speaking of a "TULSA UNMENTIONABLE" does anyone remember Sambo's? My parents used eat there quite a bit when I was very young. Didn't they close down because of a flap about the name?

Time: June 15 2003 at 10:57:41
Name: R Walker
Location: Muggy-ami, F-El-Lay
Comments: While we're mining the burger vein, (mixed metaphor), have we covered Goldie's? I used to fly in to town and stop at GOLDIE's even before heading to the parents' house. Best burgers in all of Creation, IMHO.

Ate several tons of them at 51st and Lewis, overlooking the Par 3 golf course.

Time: June 15 2003 at 07:57:53
Name: Alex Rivers
Location: Same as before
Comments: Forgot one thing. Si Hawk, You have "muy grande huevos" for mentioning Der Wienerschnitzel on Peoria. I was a frequent customer and occasionally even bought a hotdog. I thought that place was a Tulsa unmentionable.

Time: June 15 2003 at 07:51:20
Name: Alex Rivers
Location: Kansas City, Mo.
Comments: O.K. since this has gotten into fast food, here's my input. My girlfriend in '68 (later to become my ex-wife) worked at Minnie Pearl's chicken at 21st & Sheridan for awhile, I would show up at closing time for free food. We always said that KFC was much better because Col. Sanders had bigger breasts. So there!

Now on a more interesting note, we've covered Tulsa music pretty well, however has anyone heard of or from Richard Feldman lately? He had a band in Tulsa called Guava then went to L.A. He wrote Clapton's hit "Promises" and the title cut to Joe Cocker's "Civilized Man". I saw him back in Tulsa around '83 at a friend's house but have since lost track.

How about Brian Sweet? Keyboardist and video wizard? Hello! anyone out there?

Time: June 15 2003 at 01:53:10
Name: Dave Harmon
Location: Where hamburgers taste like cardboard
Comments: Anybody try Freddie's Hamburger joint at 8th & Utica? I think there is still a Fred's or Freddie's steakhouse west of town also.

Those hamburgers are the best I've had since Van's at 15th and Lewis. Freddie's is the first thing I am gonna do as soon as I hit town this summer.

Waaay better than In-N-Out...and they ain't too bad if you can't get to Tulsey.

My mom would take me to a little 3 or 4 stooler on Harvard in the early 50's that was named Fred's. I bet it's the same guy...well, by now the same name anyway.

Frank Morrow mentioned Van's on his Lost Cultural Aspects of the '50's Generation in Tulsa page. I made it to probably the last remaining Van's in the late 70s...a good, greasy burger.

Freddie's Hamburgers on 8th & Utica is in the same building that formerly housed a Hank's Hamburgers. Freddie's Bar-B-Q Steak House is still on New Sapulpa Road (Route 66).

I enjoyed a Hank's Hamburger (with the onions fried in) a couple of days ago. Roger Aston is Hank's nephew.

Hank's Hamburgers
An unpaid advertisement

Time: June 15 2003 at 01:39:14
Name: Larry L. Kraus
Location: Tyler, TX (where our main purpose is to make Tulsa look liberal!!!)
Comments: I was just noticing the picture below of the reunion of folks from KTBA, KMOD, KKUL, and KTOW. I was at KTOW from 1968 until mid-1970 (at that time we played country, except for a short time when we had country during the day and soul at night; a somewhat surrealistic combination). At that time, our program director was a guy named Arthur Johnson. Art had formerly been News Director at KAKC (known there as Jay Arthur). Does anyone know where Art is these days? I have tried to find him on a couple of visits to Tulsa, but can't locate him.

On an totally different topic, I recently discovered that one of our news anchors here in Tyler used to be in Tulsa (at KJRH, I believe). Her name is Gillian Sheridan (nee Kirk) and she is one of the co-anchors of the six and ten o'clock newscasts. I believe she did morning and midday news in Tulsa.

If anybody knows where Art Johnson can be found, please let me know.

Time: June 15 2003 at 00:20:52
Name: Wade
Location: East-side Tulsa
Comments: As long as Arthur Treacher's was in town, we never ate there. My dad was a big fan of another fish and chips place that was practically right across the street from AT's: Dickie's Fish and Chips. I think that same location was later used for Ri Le's first restaurant here in Tulsa.

As far as good burgers go, there was a little outta-the-way shack up on 66th street called....The 66th Street Store. While I was working at Whirlpool, some of us would cut short our Friday overtime duties and head down there for (at least what my tastebuds could determine) the BEST burgers in town, or at least on the North Side. And the outside of this joint was a classic...an old gas station that looked like it shoulda been condemned back in the 1940's, and NO sign outside to tell you what was in store inside, and best of all: chickens free to roam the parking lot. Nothing like getting your tastebuds all nicely salivated than to see that herd of Yardbirds scootin' around the cars!

A trend in Chinese restaurants that has long discouraged me has been the "Super Buffet" concept. There are some, like the one at Royal Dragon, and the Emperor's Buffet at 71st and Memorial, that are outstanding; however, so many allow their food to stay out so long and the veggies get all soggy...Chinese food is still best when freshly made and piping hot at your table. At least our Thai, Japanese, and Vietnamese restaurants have avoided that route.

I will amend this by saying, though, that Indian food (India-Indian, not Cherokee-Indian) somehow does very well on a buffet.

I also remember many years ago my folks taking me to the Louisiane close to downtown. Seems Dad liked to head down there for lunch as it was a manageable drive from the courthouse and therefore ate there quite a bit. He took me, my mom and my two youngest sisters there one night and we gorged ourselves on gumbo, it seems.

Lanna Thai and India Palace...oh yeah.

Time: June 14 2003 at 23:37:53
Name: Harry Lime
Location: Sun Valley, Idaho
Comments: The late Oklahoma Senator Robert S. Kerr loved the Senate's bean soup. And once, in the late 50's, according to former LBJ protege and deal fixer Bobby Baker, Kerr asked two lobbyists at his table in the Senate dining room to postpone their offers of assorted payoffs until he'd finished a bowl.

As a guide to how much he consistently collected, whatever the setting and menu, Kerr later told Baker, "I'd feel naked, Bobby, if I didn't have $5,000 in my pocket."

The bean soup tradition, incidentally, should anybody care, began in the Senate restaurant in 1902 at the instigation of Senator Fred Dubois of Idaho, was made a daily menu fixture in 1903 at the urging of Senator Knute Nelson of Minnesota, and spread to the House restaurant in 1904 when Speaker Joe Cannon, on a humid day in Washington with the temperature at 100 degrees and most appetites wanting something cool, asked for hot bean soup and was told none had been made. "From now on," he suggested, "every day, hot, cold, rain, shine, I want bean soup on this goddamned menu."

And there it's been ever since.

Ed Edmondson, the one-time Second District congressman from Muskogee and one of the very best Oklahoma has produced, had many virtues and considered his strong fondness for House bean soup as among them.

Time: June 14 2003 at 22:54:03
Name: Wilhelm Murg
Location: Somewhere between non-existence and a place with no exit: at once familiar and rather elusive
Comments: Actually, everything on my list is independent except for the fish 'n' chips chains. I always thought I was a liberal, but most liberals insist I'm an anarchist, and most anarchists think I'm a nihilist, which would explain my love of greasy spoons.

The major problem I have the political assignment of fast food to conservative philosophy is the image of President Clinton jamming Big Macs in his mouth.

Bill Clinton at McDonald's
Bill Clinton at McDonald's: "We Love to See You Smile"

Time: June 14 2003 at 20:45:49
Name: Mike Miller
Location: Close to a Beltway McDonald's
Comments: As a fugitive from the rubber chicken circuit, I wonder where Tulsa’s moderates, independents and middle of the road fascists chow down? I know my best memories of my hometown’s cooking are completely devoid of fast food chains, with the possible exception of a periodic craving for a Lot A Burger.

After spending a decade working on Capitol Hill, I’ve concluded that food is largely a bi-partisan affair. (And of course, affairs are also largely bi-partisan.) Some popular Hill restaurants do appeal to Democratic or Republican staffers, but none would be considered fast food. In Washington at least, lunch in particular is something to savor. I’ve noticed that members of both parties consume more than Senate Bean Soup when they do pause to eat. It’s time. Lots of time!

Time: June 14 2003 at 20:45:52
Name: Harry Foote
Location: The Law Firm of Thrust & Perry
Comments: I've been assigned to attend to Mr. Lime and this Republican fast food matter: In defense of my client I'd like to ask, why do you think they call them Fat Cats anyway?

Time: June 14 2003 at 20:30:47
Name: Billy G.
Location: Somewhere in East Texas...
Comments: I had a chance to eat at one of the new A&W restaurants out of nostalgia's sake and was very disappointed. The burgers A&W used to serve in the drive-in days (Papa Burgers, Mama Burgers, Baby Burgers) used to be BIG and very tasty, but the new burgers are the same size as Burger King's regular burgers and taste like they came off a conveyor belt. The root beer is excellent though, and still served in those big frosted mugs.

Don't know if I mentioned this before but if you're sick of the usual "Cool Oldies" check out WSAI's in Cincy's internet stream at http://wsai.com/main.html. Unlike most modern oldies stations which seem to be creeping into early 80's oldies, (I heard "Oldies 103.7" KEYN-FM in Wichita play Air Supply last month) WSAI features oldies from 1954 to around 1967, and their DJ staff are longtime area radio vets. Despite some voice-tracking they sound much better than most FM oldies stations. Its also hard to believe this a "Cheap Channel" station. I wish KOMA-AM would have switched to something like this instead of floundering around at the bottom of OKC's ratings as just another news/talk station.


Time: June 14 2003 at 19:04:49
Name: edwin
Location: some site of some kind
Comments: Demo's eat what? Rep's eat what? I'm sorry, but I'm lost in reading this. It's like reading your court thingy they have you in there for....I am short & fat...is that the reason I'm an Anarchist or WHY I am? You people are confusing me.....

Time: June 14 2003 at 16:27:17
Name: Mike (burp) Bruchas
Comments: Pennington's and Weber's - 2 of Brookside's best! Burp!!!!!

Time: June 14 2003 at 15:50:04
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Steamy DC - 2 floors under the streets at 19th & M NW
Comments: Ya pikers! Arthur Treacher's STILL exists in some areas of the Mid-Atlantic. But the quality varies from store to store. You know how you can always spot ex-Denny's stores - same here for AT's - a distinctive architecture. How few know that AT was Merv Griffin's sidekick for so many years...

Time: June 14 2003 at 14:33:42
Name: Rich Lohman
Location: Right where I left me...
Comments: My God...Arthur Treacher's...my Dad loved fish, and that was one of his favorites. I remember eating the "Crunch Pups" corn dog wannabes done with the fish batter. MMMMM.

I'm surprised nobody has hit the Pennington's memories. I went to the drive in once, the night it closed, and the walk-in-sit-down several times before it faded away.

Time: June 14 2003 at 13:54:48
Name: Harry Lime
Location: Sun Valley, Idaho
Comments: To the editor:

When the poll on 'fast food excess equals Republican infestation' came out three or four years ago, it meant very little to me beyond making the slight impression that I still but only vaguely remember as I might that year's Golden Globe Award winners. I certainly made no record of it and have no idea of how, why or whence it came.

Further, I wasn't trying to make the point that your contributors' interest in fast foods means they necessarily also have heavy appetites for right wing politics, just that in cities where you find a pizza parlor or burger heaven on every other corner you're likely to also find lurking nearby the wistful influences of those golden oldies, Nixon, Reagan and Bush.

No insult was intended; no defense of Tulsa's history or politics is necessary.

No defense intended (there are certainly aspects of Tulsa's history that should not be defended); perhaps I was mistaken in the inferences I drew from your comments.

Time: June 14 2003 at 12:35:32
Name: Dan Wright
Location: Yakima WA
Comments: On the subject of Crystal's Pizza, does anyone know the fate of the mural? I am assuming it was part of the wall. Was it destroyed when they remodeled the place into a Dollar General?

Time: June 14 2003 at 08:59:30
Name: Harry Lime
Location: Sun Valley, Idaho
Comments: Several years ago, a national poll suggested oddly that strong conservative Republican cities are likely to have more food chain franchises than Democratic cities. That opinion, incredulous to millions, turned upside down the notion that Republican money is usually tantamount to deluxe cuisine and Democratic ideology to memories of fast food revelries and the minimum wage.

This site's many epicures, with their continuing love letters to pizza, sizzle and fat, and Tulsa's far-ranging right wing reputation seem to reaffirm the poll's conclusion.

I remember Tulsa as being off the deep-end for most of the 20th century. It saw nothing wrong with the briberies in the Teapot Dome Scandal (involving as they did oil titan Harry Sinclair and founder of the city's then biggest bank); saw nothing wrong with Hoover's hands-off attitude toward early casualties of the Great Depression; saw nothing wrong in condemning Roosevelt as the country's major enemy in the mid-30s; saw nothing wrong with McCarthyism; saw nothing wrong with Watergate; saw nothing wrong with the Vietnam war; saw nothing wrong with teacher's pay and highways being near the bottom on the national scale; and to embellish those accomplishments though the years voted against Kennedy, Johnson, Humphrey, Carter, Clinton, Clinton and Gore, and chose without apology as its symbols of leadership and integrity (despite a late, reluctant awakening by the Tulsa World), Inhofe and Nickles.

That Tulsa continues to be an appealing city with many content and unapologetic inhabitants must mean that progress is not all it's cracked up to be.

Harry (good to see you still with us after "The Third Man"), I was unable to find a reference to such a poll or study on the internet. Maybe you can provide a link.

I did find that "Men's Fitness" magazine runs an annual list of "America's fattest cities", and that Tulsa was 11th on the list a couple of years ago. This year: "Tulsa boasts one fast-food place for every 3,300 residents. Only a few cities have more per capita." But also, unaccountably, Tulsa dropped out of the top 25 fattest, and lept into the 25th fittest position.

The book, Fast Food Nation, notes that the fast food industry giants are generally right-wing Republican, or at least, that is how they spend their lobbying dollars. Are consumers intentionally voting this ideology with their stomachs? Or are they being victimized, as this book argues? Then again, some folks just enjoy fast food occasionally (and not necessarily fast food chains), knowing they are taking a momentary detour from the path of good nutrition.

Though contributors to this site apparently consume fast food with brio (not brie), I'm unconvinced this predilection bears a significant relationship to their politics.

If the study you cite is accurate, your own locale must surely be teeming with fast food restaurants. A Sun Valley writer described the Democratic party as "a party that’s as down and out in Idaho as the breakaway Republican mugwumps of 1884."

Time: June 14 2003 at 03:27:47
Name: Don Cook
Location: Tulsa
Comments: Hot off the press: A pic from the "Almost 30 Year Reunion" of the KTBA, KMOD, KKUL, KTOW Air Staff (1973-1979) at the Deadtown Bar, Tulsa on 06/06/03.

(Left to right) Brad Zimmerman, Cecil Norris, John Moore, Stacy Richardson, and Don Cook.

Don Cook and company

A grand occasion for some of Tulsa's nicest old hippies. Not present: Charlie Derek and Brian Gill. Deceased: Scott Yates, Rob Wilson, and Bob (Strider) Edwards.

Time: June 14 2003 at 01:21:27
Name: Webmaster
Location: Tulsa
Comments: The last Guestbook (#135) almost got away from me; it weighed in at 64K bytes by the time I could archive it. I try to keep them to around 40K (not including pictures) so they load quickly with dial-up connections.

I think it's safe to name "fast food" as a major theme of the previous Guestbook. A new photo of the Continental Theatre was added; you may have missed it if you've been away for a few days. Good and bad sci-fi movies were discussed. A few other topics snuck in, too.

It's all in Guestbook 135.

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