Tulsa TV Memories Guestbook 92

  Friday 09/28/2001 9:07:33pm
Name: John Hillis
Location: Washington, America's no-fly zone
How did you find TTM?: Dorian Gray told me about it
Comments: The Paul Harvey photo is definitely a neat trick. Though the "grown-up" Paul's photo has to be at least 25 years old by now.

Flew this week for the first time since the 11th, Baltimore to Houston to Dallas and back. The airports are empty, but with one of our airports still closed, the few planes that are flying are full.

On the way back from DFW, had an interesting experience. As we loading, the pilot comes on and says they've had a security problem and the authorities are responding to some altercation about this flight. Then agents come on and check ticket stubs and IDs, all the baggage is checked and some pulled off, and the pilot comes back on and says the airport police, FBI, and Customs have all responded and decided the flight is good to go. It was a long 40 minutes to Houston.

I found my TIA badge the other day. Talk about a more innocent time. They even used to give the press free parking stickers for the airport curbs. Try _that_ now....

  Friday 09/28/2001 1:52:21pm
Name: Webmaster
E-Mail: tulsatv@mail.com
Location: Tulsa
How did you find TTM?: with very fluid boundaries
Comments: You've got to check out what I just did with Paul Harvey's image...I'm kind of proud of it. Also Cliff Robertson and his dummy undergo an interesting transformation...try the links on the What's New page! Let me know if you have any problems with these animations.

  Thursday 09/27/2001 0:24:55am
Name: Roy Byram
E-Mail: archangel1778@aol.com
Location: Yuma
How did you find TTM?: in a pocket of my Air Force uniform!
Comments: I loved Jamil's. Tabouli, Bar B Q baloney, breads and the great steaks. Dr. Redlove's for ice cream. Big Mike's had a good selection of burgers. Shotgun Sam's or Ken's for pizza. Dino Economos introduced me to Zorba's (alas it died before I left T Town, Opa!!) The Pagoda for Chinese. The Nine Of Cups for anything. My wife's fav; the Shadow Mountain Inn.

Joy, If you ate at Kay's, you had my Mom's cooking in the '60s.

  Wednesday 09/26/2001 7:24:02pm
Name: Joy Cooper
E-Mail: jakeotoole2@yahoo.com
Location: The piney woods of Arkansas
How did you find TTM?: I clicked on
Comments: The restaurant memory game..I haven't lived in Tulsa for over 20 years...but my mother and I try to "harken" back to all the places we used to eat in Tulsa ages ago...(she didn't like to cook so I ate out a LOT as a kid)...the mention of the Black Gold was a light bulb over my head..yes, I remember that place...never seemed to have much business though.

Our favorites were Neal's (had the little mini juke boxes at the tables), Coman's downtown (best club sandwiches) Cotton's (best chicken fried steak), Kay's (best yeast rolls), Leon's (good milkshakes), The Pines (little train ran around the top of the restaurant), Pete's Hamburgers (best greasy spoon in town), Martin's BBQ, The Forge (weird place don't remember the "best" of anything there), St. Michael's Alley (best atmosphere and that cranky black chef that ran the coffee/expresso machine), The Golden Drumstick (I only liked the pictures on the wall but my parents liked the food), and ad nauseum.

I don't know why restaurants are so popular in the collective memory...must be a throwback to the "family dinner table" out of a Norman Rockwell print...but eating out in Tulsa is just a part of my memories of the old hometown which I sometimes miss DESPERATELY!! Thanks again Webmaster for keeping the flame alive, Okie til I die.

Just to mention it again, there is a new Tulsa Motel/Restaurant Photo Album here. And don't forget Liquor-by-the-wink club cards on Channel Changer 2.

  Wednesday 09/26/2001 4:24:47pm
Name: Jim Ruddle
E-Mail: gardel@erols.com
Location: Rye, NY
How did you find TTM?:
Comments: Mentioning Christmas huckstering (as Mike was) I must make note of a catastrophe of radio marketing that took place at KAKC, Christmas of 1950.

We were presented with a series of live spots to read in the weeks preceding Christmas. They offered an entire assortment of Christmas ornaments, icicles, even a star, as I recall. And all of this for less than ten bucks: It was $6.95 or $7.95, something like that.

We played Leroy Anderson's "Sleigh Ride" behind the copy, just to make certain that everyone was in the holiday mood.

We had a full schedule of these spots, and "Sleigh Ride" must have been the number one tune on the station for several weeks, because it seemed that the spots were omnipresent in the broadcast day.

A few days before Christmas, the first calls came in. "Where are my ornaments?"
The calls turned to a flood, with people informing us (and we all had to answer phones) that "My children are crying in front of the Christmas tree because we can't decorate it," and similar wrenching tales. There was nothing we could tell them. The whole thing turned out to be a fraud and the outfit that had bought the time and pocketed the coin had evaporated into the Christmas air.

I've never been able to enjoy "Sleigh Ride" to this day.

  Wednesday 09/26/2001 2:46:28pm
Name: Charles
Location: the Northland
How did you find TTM?: On the menu at Kings Food Host
Comments: Mike:
I remember Husker Du. In fact I still have my family's copy. It is a memory game somewhat like Concentration where you match pictures that are covered up with little plastic pieces. My 4 year old son loves it (and frequently beats me at it). My wife said she has seen it back in stores recently.

Does anybody remember the Black Gold restaurant on Memorial (or was it Sheridan). It was downstairs in a strip center on the West side of the street. It had an oilfield theme. We went there a lot in the 60's (and maybe early 70's).

Try Husker Du online here.

Hüsker Dü was also a 3-piece punk/power pop band from Minneapolis in the late 70's.

  Wednesday 09/26/2001 2:15:16pm
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: DuhCee
How did you find TTM?: Good with the guac dip....
Comments: Were any of you owners of "Husker Du"?

It was sold a couple Xmas' in the '70's by the folks that brought you "TV Magic Cards and Ron Popeil's early efforts. You know - "available at" - the usual litany of merchants like Froug's and OTASCO....

It was some European board game craze of the '70's - there were a couple more now that I DON'T remember.

We never knew what the game premise was supposed to be.....

  Tuesday 09/25/2001 2:05:59am
Name: Rodney Echohawk
E-Mail: olympix9@olp.net
Location: Sand Springs
How did you find TTM?: via the mackerel waves
Comments: LAWZEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! What a great site! I was always a late night horror film fan as a kid going back to "talking head" host Forrest Lawn and KOTV's Late, Late Show. So imagine my thrill at finding "Dracula" showing on channel 6 the evening of Saturday, May 2, 1970. I was drawing campaign posters for my brother's senior class president run at Charles Page High School. But when this guy Mazeppa, the nut from Go For Dough on the Early Show, comes on asking folks to send him letters telling him what they thought of his debut show, I was hooked! I wrote a seven page letter and watched with awe the next Saturday when he pulled my letter out of a hopper and announced I'd won an original painting of his movie monster that night, the Wolf Man! Sure enough it arrived signed merely Pompazoidi. For about five more weeks he kept giving his artwork away to entities like Intergalactic Thunderbanana but had to stop when he fell behind on the art with the show's growing success. I was incredibly fortunate to be able to write Mazeppa one of his first fan letters and to win the painting. I went on to watch the Uncanny Film Festival on KOTV and KTUL and listened to the Unfilmy Can Festival Gailard, Jim and Gary did on KAKC radio through about 1975. Gailard Sartain earned a fan for life!

Rodney, you lucky devil! Thanks for sharing your story, which is now also on the first Mazeppa page.

  Monday 09/24/2001 12:07:01am
Name: Webmaster
E-Mail: tulsatv@mail.com
Location: Where no one has gone before
How did you find TTM?: In a temporal rift
Comments: UPN41 is throwing an "Enterprise" premiere party this Wednesday at the Cinemark theaters (Hwy 169 & 71st St) at 5:30pm. I'll be the two-meter-high humanoid dressed in one of Earth's quaint "Hawaiian shirts".

'Enterprise' on UPN41

Capt. Ron TraceyDr. Simon Van GelderThis is a good place to mention that Lee Woodward's brother Morgan guest-starred in two of the classic Treks: "Omega Glory" as Captain Ron Tracey, and "Dagger of the Mind" as Dr. Simon Van Gelder in a manic, gripping performance. Van Gelder was the subject of the first Vulcan mind-meld seen on the show.

The UPN GirlsWednesday report: I attended the "Enterprise" premiere party this evening at the Cinemark Tulsa. Someone in Promotions evidently believes that an important element of a party is people standing in a line for an extended period.

Once in the theater auditorium, the fun ramped up in the form of a drawing. One of the UPN Girls called my lucky number, netting me a cap, T-shirt and sport drink bottle. That's closer to my idea of a party.

Vaughn Armstrong ("Admiral Forrest") was present.

The inaugural show was terrific on the big screen: hi-fi sound and no commercials.

The episode title, "Broken Bow", actually refers to Broken Bow, Oklahoma...a fact cheered loudly by the audience. We saw a Klingon crash-land in a corn field there. When he confronted the farmer with apparently threatening gestures and an incomprehensible language, he got a hide full of buckshot for his trouble. Later in the episode, the new Enterprise captain inquired in sickbay about the Klingon: "Where is he from?" The response, "He's from Oklahoma," drew another big cheer and laugh.

Starbase 21 in Tulsa

  Sunday 09/23/2001 1:04:52pm
Name: Webmaster
E-Mail: tulsatv@mail.com
Location: Tulsa
How did you find TTM?: Guestbook-intensive
Comments: OK, now we are on yet another backup Guestbook...just not having much luck. But the good news is that nothing was lost.

Date: September 23 2001 at 00:56:58
Name: Roy Byram
Location: Yuma

Dear Lowell, I can attest to Little Dar-ling! She was a continuity person with the station.

Lee Woodward was right, she was a witch, I dated her ONCE! nuff said! Little Darlin Li'l Darlin Lil Darlin

Was this Little Dar-ling on the show in the first few months? I only seem to remember Judy Judy.

KJRH's "World's Worst Movies" debuted at midnight. The breaks weren't all successful (who would expect that?), but there were some definite laughs. The hosts are comfortable on camera. Captions appeared periodically, a la "Pop-up Video"

The movie was pretty gruesome: "The Brain That Wouldn't Die" (or was it the "Head"...the credits couldn't seem to make up their "Mind"). Jason Evers played a doctor with better medical skills than driving skills.

Next week sounds promising: "Wrestling Women Vs. The Aztec Mummy". TTM says check it out.

Date: September 22 2001 at 21:06:17
Name: Lowell Burch
Location: My laughing place.
How did you find TTM? In step with the times.

I am so glad that our correspondents from back east escaped danger. My niece was on the phone with a friend, a Marine, who was in his room right across the parking lot from the Pentagon when the plane hit there. He was not hurt but she could hear the other men yelling for him to hang up. She turned on the TV and, with in a minute, she saw what had just happened.

Thanks, Lee. Some time back I asked if anyone remembered Little Dar-ling from the UFFCM, but I did not remember her name. I am glad you mentioned her. Now I know I just didn't dream her up. I think she is the reason that I tuned in to begin with.

I enjoyed the new photo page of Tulsa's old eating establishments. Good job, Webmaster.

Thanx, Lowell.

Date: September 22 2001 at 13:06:18
Name: David Bagsby
Location: north of Alphaville
How did you find TTM? perplexingly free from adverts

Help...this is a bit off topic, but I am trying to track down a movie from the late 60s/early 70's. The style was like a serious Matt Helm-type affair with strange guys in trenchcoats, hats and dark sunglasses going around and shrinking people by pinching them on the neck then stuffing the vacated clothing into a satchel. Anyone recall what this was?

Hmm...drawing a blank, and I thought I was pretty well-informed in that area. If you can think of any actor in the movie, you could use IMDb to find it.

Just added a new Tulsa Motel/Restaurant Photo Album!

Date: September 21 2001 at 15:02:51
Name: Andre Hinds
Location: Just west of Lookout Mountain

There's an interesting story in today's Wall Street Journal about Minoru Yamasaki, the chief architect of the World Trade Center. It seems that his very next high-rise project was Tulsa's Bank of Oklahoma tower:

As New Yorkers come to terms with an absence in their skyline, people in Tulsa, Okla., are focusing on a presence in theirs: a mini-World Trade Center. Tulsa possesses one of about 100 buildings designed by Minoru Yamasaki, the chief architect of the World Trade Center. In this case, the resemblance is particularly striking: the 52-story high-rise tower has similar design elements and dominates the Tulsa skyline as completely as the World Trade Center towers did New York's.

-- Elizabeth Seay, The Wall Street Journal, 9/21/2001

Reading this reminded me of the story on Williams Companies in a recent Urban Tulsa that had an interesting anecdote about the 25-year-old tower:

During the mid-seventies Williams took a 9-square block of deteriorating downtown and sunk $187 million plus to build the new Williams offices. “They hired a (renowned) Japanese designer (who had designed the World Trade Center in New York City). They had this mockup. Originally, this building was half this tall, twice (2 buildings). John [Williams] walked over to the model and said, ‘What about this?’ He put one on top of the other. That’s how the tower came to be.

-- Gretchen S. Collins,
Urban Tulsa Weekly, 8/9/2001

The BOK Tower was completed a year after the World Trade Center. Yamasaki died in 1986.

Date: September 20 2001 at 21:28:18
Name: Lee Woodward
Location: Same-e same
How did you find TTM? slumbering

In an effort to acquaint our clients to all former TV personnel mentioned on this site, I will mention "Edwin" who asked just below, if I remembered him. How can I forget Edwin. A fellow of extreme good nature and usually smiling. This may have been due to the vapors he was testing before the newscasts, but I doubt it. Edwin was a twin of the actor Marty Feldman. A bit stouter but could have made a grand addition to the old live things like "Shock Theater" and "The Uncanny Film Festival". Alas, these shows were gone when Edwin was at KOTV and he was a wasted talent. I recall a female (I think) on Zeppy's show who was referred to as "Little Dar-ling." I was told that she claimed to be a bonafide Witch. She would have made the perfect mate for Edwin.

Edwin, I most certainly remember you and was impressed when you repaid your twenty dollar loan years later in front of a "QuikTrip." I applied it to the purchase of a libation of my choice that very evening.

I wish you well.

And goodnight little Dar-ling...whereever you are?

We'll get things going with some new content in the next few days.

Date: September 19 2001 at 23:30:30
Name: Andre Hinds
Location: Same Bat Time, Same Bat Channel

One of the more popular topics on this board seems to be Weird Al's movie "UHF," which was filmed all over Tulsa.

Well, it seems that talks are underway to bring that film to DVD in the Summer of 2002. Here's a link to the story on the Ain't It Cool News site:


According to this story, it will be "a Collector's Edition (packed with cool features and surprises)."

Date: September 19 2001 at 14:16:13
Name: edwin
Location: over here

Hey Woody, that channel 24 is the school systems. The other is chan. 20. I freelance there & had to holler a lot to get the arts on there more often. It is indeed a good thing!

If you don't remember me then think about that 20 bucks I paid you back a while ago after 20 years or so. Then think about me & Steve the kid in back of the old news room (garage) sniffin' the old laughing gas right before the news. You wanted to know what that stuff was.

Date: September 17 2001 at 13:48:11
Name: Wilhelm Murg
Location: too close to the river

I remember a program on Channel 2 from the early seventies, which I believe was local. It was hosted by a man with white hair. The set was your basic black background (i.e.- no set), and I think the show was called something like "Teen Topics" (but then I might be getting it mixed up with the UNFILMY CAN FESTIVAL satire "Teen Talk Tulsa"). It came on Sunday afternoons, but I'm also sure it popped up after Tom Snyder and at 5 AM on Sunday mornings. Does anyone else remember it?

Date: September 17 2001 at 09:12:08
Name: Lee Woodward
Location: My Place.

Today is the day to "Carry On!" I find distant memories easier than the most recent. I remembered those times when I would witness the News Departments seeking out "Talking Heads" to fill the vast void when a crisis would occur. Of course that was the same after Tuesday. So, I was delighted to find some relief when I came across Tulsa's unlisted "Arts Channel" (#24). During the day they run new and old video of some of the great classical artists. From the 50's on. Old "Voice of Firestone" and "The Bell Telephone Hour" as well as new things. I found it great to see old favorites and to cleanse the carnage from my mind.

Date: September 18 2001 at 15:15:00
Name: Webmaster

Archived Guestbook 91. The events of 9/11/01 were reported on by Mike Miller, John Hillis and Mike Bruchas in D.C., and Jim Ruddle in NYC. The Guestbook remains open for comment from our community of readers.

Jenks' and TTM's Robert Stemmons "The Whistler" is mentioned again in Dear Abby's column of 9/17! He had a letter in her 8/19 column as well. Here is his web site: www.thewhistler.com. An international whistling event, Puckerama 2001, will be held here in Tulsa, October 18-21.

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