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Date: November 22 2001 at 02:29:49
Name: Steve Dallas
Location: north of Seattle, south of the border
How did you find TTM? A-number-one!

I remember well the battle between KAKC and KELI for rock dominance, also the notes each station sang their call letters with as bumpers between songs (anyone have a sound bite of those?). Thanks, Sonny!

The talk of local stations powering down at night reminded ME of something, too: Shortly before I left the area in '85, I used to listen to the oldies station at AM 1050 (KRAV-AM, then KGTO, I think), and when it would go off the air in the early evening hours, I would hear the station in Monterey, Mexico come in semi-clearly, with the most stereotypical Mexican music one could imagine, complete with mariachi bands, accordians, shouts of "yee-hee-hee!", etc. No offense intended to those who claim it as part of their heritage, but it always cracked me up to hear sixties rock magically transformed into that. Imagine my surprise when, during my last visit in '99, I tuned AM 1050 in late at night and heard the exact same music coming from my folks' boombox! Guess its popularity in ol' Mexico will never perish.

Date: November 21 2001 at 14:42:17
Name: Sonny Hollingshead
Location: Sand Springs

In early 1972, Steve Clem and I joined Broadcasting Explorer Post 430, later 1430. This group was made up of high school kids interested in broadcasting. KELi sponsored the Post, with meetings in the studios on the Fairgrounds. Forrest Brokaw was Post Advisor. Carl Lund later replaced him. Members of the post included Steve Van Dyne, Steve Schroeder, Si Hawk, Larry LaBuzz, Mike Hardeman, and John Durkee.

Through the Post, we had access to the KELi production studio during evenings and weekends for “studio on-air” practice. We did on-air work for KELi by doing call-in reports during the Tulsa Oiler Baseball and Tulsa Ice Oiler Hockey games.

It was through this Post that Steve and I met Ken (Douglas) Sutherland, as he was on the air on most evenings and weekends. Ken was kind enough to let us hang around the studio as he himself was honing his skills to move to a bigger market. Keep in mind that this was in the day radio stations still played 45-R.P.M. records. This made for a higher degree of difficulty for the on-air guy making $500 a month. The station was using large transcription turntables, which at that time should have been museum pieces.

At that time, KELi played some album cuts of songs considered today to be “Classic Rock”. KELi’s playlist was not as restrictive as crosstown rival KAKC. KELi played "Stairway to Heaven", which KAKC avoided. KAKC’s playlist was 30 current songs and rotating oldies, while KELi’s list was 44 current songs, extended album cuts of current songs, and some oldies. (See the KELi page for a 1971 survey...webmaster)

Although Ken gave us the choice, he encouraged each of us to do our sports bits live instead of recording them. During the live bits, he basically interviewed us, asking questions about the game at hand. When he left KELi, Ken was replaced by a guy named Bobby Coleman, but it wasn’t the same place. I thank Ken for his friendship and help. Thanks also to Forrest Brokaw, to Carl Lund, to Chief Engineer Glenn Thomas, and to Joe Henderson for giving us kids an early break by letting us hang around and learn.

In the past couple of years Steve and I made contact with Ken once again through email. I’m glad he found TTM and checked in.

One more thing. Ken asked me a couple of years ago if I could locate Dean (Kelly) Jenkins. If anyone knows where he is, please respond via email or post it here.

Date: November 21 2001 at 13:28:06
Name: Steve Williams
Location: Tulsa
How did you find TTM? very well thank you

Total 8 Tulsa news set, courtesy of Mike BruchasI am checking in for the first time after enjoying this website for over a year. Having grown up in Tulsa, the TV and Radio memories from the 60's are great. And having worked at Channel 8 and Channel 23 from 1976-1986 there are lots of folks contributing that I know and am looking forward to sharing stories with. I was part of the 8's the Place promo and Total 8 Tulsa news era at KTUL and the "Get to know us" and Creature Feature era at KOKI Tulsa 23. Let's tawk...Happy Thanksgiving!!!!!

Welcome...drop in any time, Steve.

Date: November 21 2001 at 12:55:22
Name: Frank Morrow
Location: Austin

From my experience as an announcer in the 1950s, I never heard of the outrageous policy of a station owning the rights to your name. When did this practice start? Is it really legal?

People using other names was the subject of a lot of entries in this web site many months ago. In my day the only times there would be a name change would be (1) if the announcer didn't want to be recognized (as if his voice wouldn't give him away); (2) if the name might be confusing to listeners, (for instance, KRMG's changing Dave Croninger's last name to Davis. [The name Croninger was Ok with KOME, where Dave worked before going to KRMG.]); and (3) for ethnic reasons, as with Jack Morris supposedly not wanting to use his Jewish name on the air.

On the subject of transmitter power and patterns, there is a map that I submitted many months ago displaying all this information of the radio stations in 1956. It used to be somewhere in this web site, but I couldn't find it. Maybe our webmaster can help me out here.

When I started working at KAKC in the summer of 1951, the Program Director, John Wheeler, showed me a map of the station's tri-bulbous coverage, and explained that the drop in power at night didn't adversely affect the coverage. Because it was at night, more area was actually covered, he proclaimed. Being an 18-year old neophyte, I didn't know any better.

It should be noted that, when these power and pattern outputs were originally made, Tulsa was a lot smaller and more compact, and there were only six AM radio stations. The coverage seemed to be adequate at that time.

Thanks for reminding us of that map...it is in the Briefcase (see Channel Changer 2), Photo Album 1, also directly linked above, as is a picture of the 18 year old Frank at KAKC.

Date: November 21 2001 at 02:18:12
Name: Ken Sutherland
Location: Los Angeles, CA
How did you find TTM? Delightful!

In early 1971, after losing my first 3 DJ jobs in short order, I applied to every radio station with an ad in BROADCASTING magazine. The phone rang, and a voice said, "Ken, would you work the overnight shift for $500 a month? Can you start Monday?" "Yes!" I said. "Who IS this?" It was Jon Steel, and shortly thereafter, I became Ken Douglas on KELi. (I was told that I couldn't use my own name, because KELi would OWN it if I did! I chose to let them own Ken Douglas).

At that time, Dick Daniels did morning drive, and spoke to 'hizzhonor the mayor' every week. Jon Steel worked midday, Les Garland was the afternoon drive DJ (and had a dance party show on Channel 6, which I hosted for him once) and Dean Kelly (the last, I believe, of the jocks-named-Kelly period). Later, when Garland moved to Milwaukee, Dean Kelly moved up the afternoon drive slot, and I began working 7-Midnight. Denny Rogers came on the all night shift.

When I started at KELi, I was a horrible jock. Station Manager Joe Henderson deserves an award for his patience with me and my seemingly unlimited screwups. He gave me EXACTLY what I needed - a place to make mistakes and grow. After two years at KELi, I was ready to move on, and I was fortunate enough to have some astonishing successes during the rest of my career - but I would certainly not have made it if it had not been for the opportunity KELi gave me.

Thanks, Joe, wherever you are.

In those days, radio stations were required by the FCC to do a certain amount of news each day. KELi didn't do ANY news during the evening hours, but made up for it on the all night show. I had to do a ten-minute newscast every hour. I must have gotten a thousand telephone calls from News Director Forrest Brokaw correcting everything from my pronounciation to my timing. I'm SURE he would have corrected my haircut if he could have. I think that guy never slept! He was a long and lanky birdlike man who wore brightly-colored jumpsuits that had shrunk badly, and revealed about 6 inches of leg above his socks. Interesting character.

My last show on KELi came right after Richard Nixon was re-elected. Mazeppa dropped into the spaceship studios with a few friends, and the show went free form. The next day Joe Henderson presented me with all my belongings in a shoebox and wished me good luck. I got work at KONO in San Antonio, then Portland, Sacramento and San Jose. I went on to become General Manager of 3 stations in Reno and Las Vegas, and now work for Jones Radio Networks in Los Angeles. Please feel welcome to say hello if my name is familiar to you. The two years I spent in Tulsa made for some wonderful memories!

Ken Sutherland (Ken Douglas)

Thanks, Ken, added your comments to the KELi page.

Date: November 20 2001 at 17:06:55
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: The epicenter of NASCARdom

Note On Jim Ruddle at Rockingham - amazingly this year Fox, TNN, WTBS, ESPN and NBC all split up coverage of NASCAR events and sell the h--- out of spots in the coverage - even if just time trials.

SpeedVision is moving here to Charlotte because of 12 teams based here and the closeness of so many tracks LIKE Rockingham on "the circuit".

I am fascinated by old NASCAR races on the beach in FL in the pre-track days.

Ye olde Hudson Hornet was a hot number in the early years of racin'.

Remember this was a sport built on using cars (stock models including convertibles at one time!) bought from dealers and each time a Merc or Dodge won - that dealers sales rose the following Monday! Also NO "furrin" cars compete though BMW and Mercedes show cars they would love to race in NASCAR. I am sure some day some lawyer will sue to open up the ranks...

Date: November 20 2001 at 13:55:28
Name: Don Norton
Location: Tulsa

The TV Guide issue currently being distributed (Nov. 24-30) carries a nice tribute (Page 63) to Tulsa Central high school and University of Tulsa alumna MARY STUART HOUCHINS. Mary went off to New York about fifty years ago, dropped the "Houchins," and ever since has made a pretty good living in soap opera ("Guiding Light"). In 1962 "she bacame the first and only performer to win a prime-time Emmy nomination for a daytime role" and TV Guide wants a 40th anniversary celebration of that next year. We heartily "second the motion."

Not many of our "communicants" are old enough to remember Mary Stuart's Tulsa days, but she definitely belongs in the Tulsa TV Memories pantheon.

Don, added your comments to Jim Ruddle's on the Tulsa Radio: Central High alumni page, along with relevant links.

Date: November 20 2001 at 08:58:44
Name: Jim Ruddle
Location: Rye, NY

Mike and NASCAR: I've never been a racing fan, although I have been aware of some of the drivers who come to New York annually for the big awards dinner at the Waldorf Astoria. They put on an excellent show and, for those who watch, provide an articulate and intelligent evening. Two weeks ago, I went to my first NASCAR event, the races at Rockingham, North Carolina. What a blast. The noise, no surprise, is deafening--earplugs or covers required, all conversations are screams.

I had a garage pass which allowed me to wander along the row of cars as they were being serviced--seemingly being rebuilt, in some cases--got inside the Hendrick Motor Sports transporter where Gordon, Nadeau, and newcomer Jimmie Johnson's cars are placed for moves between tracks, and where rows of stainless steel lockers contain just about every part--and variations on them--are stored. These lockers are on wheels and can be rolled out to the garage when necessary.

The most impressive thing is the breadth of American industry that is represented at the track: Kellogg's, Tide, Dupont, Pepsi, Snap-on Tools, GNC, Rubbermaid, oil companies, and on and on. Virtually every major industry has some connection to NASCAR. I'll be looking forward to the TV stuff--totally.

Date: November 20 2001 at 07:46:00
Name: Sonny Hollingshead
Location: Sand Springs

KAKC's 970-AM transmitter was located along North Osage Drive at around North 49th West Avenue. More antennas have changed the 970-AM coverage since then, but in the 60s-70s KAKC's nightime pattern was cigar-shaped and headed basically South...straight down Peoria.

KELi's two 1430-AM antennas are still on North Lewis at around 56th Street North. You could pick up KELi in Dallas, Texas at night, but lost the signal in Claremore.

The Tulsa station with absolutely the worst nightime pattern ever was 1300-AM (KOME, KCNW, KXXO, KMOD-AM, now KAKC). It was tough to pick it up at the old KXXO studios at 2700 Center on Skelly Drive (circa 1974) for off-air monitoring. It's completely gone in West Tulsa. But, listeners could hear it just fine in Lake Charles, Louisiana.

Date: November 19 2001 at 21:56:07
Name: Andre Hinds
Location: 2 miles north of the Turner Turnpike gate

All this talk of KAKC's signal powering down at night reminded me of something from my teenage years.

My friends and I would often drag the strip in Claremore in the mid-1970s on Saturday nights. When night fell, the signals from KAKC and KELi would virtually disappear, but WGN from Chicago would come on loud and strong. It always felt so strange to be cruising Claremore and listening to Chicagoland Top 40 all night long.

Date: November 19 2001 at 16:49:41
Name: Mike (vroom) Bruchas
How did you find TTM? Good with Cheerwine soda made in NC with NO wine

We are on the third from last day of 2001 season of TOTALLY NASCAR here. Watch it.

Good old boys talking physics, math and aerodynamics - I have learned a lot. It is a news show passing as niche sports for NASCAR fans but intelligently done.

Their staff is off after Thursday till the last week in January and the show off air as the season is over save a make-up race in cold cold NH....

Date: November 19 2001 at 14:00:31
Name: Webmaster

Create your own Tulsa TV Memories screen saver easily with the free software at www.webshots.com.

The larger images from this site look particularly good, such as those in the Photo Briefcase or the KVOO Photo Album. To save a photo, right-click on it, and select Save Picture As.

After installing the software, choose Make New Collection and select each photo to be included. Choose your settings (I recommend "Enlarge Picture To Best Fit Screen") and transition effects ("Picture Slide" is a nice one). Test it out by right-clicking on your desktop, clicking Screen Savers, then Preview. Voila!

This also makes a nice, personalized gift. The 1.2 meg software fits on 1 diskette. Another diskette or two could contain all the photos you want to use (the software allows up to 15 per screen saver...you can have more than one "Collection").

Another bonus is that it can fit these same pictures to your screen as Windows wallpaper.

Date: November 16 2001 at 03:46:54
Name: Lou Warren
Location: ABC Radio Networks, Dallas
How did you find TTM? that mysterious "Tulsa" tractor beam

Talk about connecting the dots of time. I do remember being turned off enough with KAKC's "powering down" at night that I would channel surf, and the net result was listening to Cris Erick Stevens on the Big 89 ! I'm not sure what soured on my mind with KAKC and what it was doing evenings, but it was enough to make me actually strain and listen in on the "haps" in the Windy City!!

As for Walter Walters at KELi, I don't recall, but I do remember a short-lived weekend personality by the name of MICKEY WARREN. When John Steel called me in the summer of '70 to inform me of my new on-air name, I couldn't believe my ears, but then as long as the check didn't bounce, I was grateful for my first radio gig. The next thing I knew, Lee Bayley was doing a critique on an air check, and refereing me to his cousin in Springdale, Arkansas who owned then KSPR, and the rest would be rock and roll history....and I swear there is a real live honest to goodness "tractor beam" that emits from somewhere in Tulsa. I heard it may originate from somewhere inside Woodward Park....otherwise, why do so many find themselves back in T-Town asking themselves, "what am I doing back here in T-Town"?!

Date: November 15 2001 at 23:49:26
Name: Lowell Burch
Location: Doing my last set at The Stables
How did you find TTM? Crispy fried and delicious hot or cold

I just saw Tulsa personality and UHF cast member Wilma Jeanne Cummins on Jay Leno playing her musical pop bottles.

Then I switched over and watched Earl Scruggs backed by Steve Martin, Vince Gill, and assorted friends break down the Foggy Mountain. Nice.

Ya'll come back now, y'hear?

So the Leno producer who wrote in a few Guestbooks ago looking for talent evidently scored.

Date: November 15 2001 at 12:04:30
Name: David Batterson
Location: not in paradise....
How did you find TTM? In the wine cooler at 7-11

RE: Billy Spradlin's comment: "One of the rumors I heard about KAKC that the station got its call letters from its signal patterns which resembled a baseball cap." ---- I thought it meant: Always Kinky Commentary ;-)

Date: November 15 2001 at 05:24:13
Name: Billy G. Spradlin
Location: Kilgore (someone else named this town, not me!), Texas
How did you find TTM? Sitting by the dock of the bay?

Sorry I haven't popped in here in awhile - been busy. Hope everyone enjoyed the KAKC "Solid Gold" scans on the Lee Bayley page. I'm working on a CD version of the album for fun. I wore my copy out back in the late 70's when I discovered it (already played to death) at a Bartlesville thrift store. All the songs will be from CD, and I hope I can cram 30 songs onto one 80 minute CD-R.

One of the rumors I heard about KAKC (I think it was mentioned in the Tulsa World back in the late 70's) that the station got its call letters from its signal patterns which resembled a baseball cap. How good was KAKC's nightime signal in Tulsa back then? The station disappeared in B'ville when they changed patterns.

Speaking of fictional radio personalities anyone remember "Walter Walters" on KELi in the mid 70's.. Who was doing that?

KAKC stands for Avey, Kellough and Condon. Thanks again for those contributions to Lee's page.

Date: November 15 2001 at 01:46:36
Name: Arnold Schwarzenegger
Location: Tinseltown

It's not a TUMA!!

Date: November 13 2001 at 12:39:29
Name: Webmaster
Location: In the luminiferous aether

I was on Jerry Pippin's KBIX (1490-Muskogee) radio show Tuesday evening, talking about the Fantastic Theater theme. You can tune Jerry in weeknights via the internet...try the link on his site.

Date: November 13 2001 at 11:06:20
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Used Charlotte, No Charge
How did you find TTM? On the back of a coupon from The Bagelry....

Tulsey connection - learned just today that David Cerullo - pres. of my employing company here in Charlotte is an ORU grad - though in Business Admin. not TV production.

Okies (or former Okies) ARE everywhere!
If you want to read an excellent story on the roots of TV in Richmond, VA with several great and even Tulsa-typical type anecdotal stories, go to Sanford Terry's article at www.wwbt.com/inside/history.htm....Great stuff. Believe it or not - some of the anchors have been on air at WWBT for 16 years TOGETHER as a team!!!!

Date: November 13 2001 at 02:40:46
Name: Lou Warren
Location: ABC Radio Networks, Dallas
How did you find TTM? a friend e-mailed the site to me

I'm sure there are markets from coast to coast that have a locker full of memories, but T-Town TV was definitely cutting edge stuff. Today we record everything. It's a shame our mindset back then wasn't the same. You could have sold Lee and Lionel, and named your price! In reference to Don Woods getting the finger from Cy Tuma, at least it was off camera. Who was that sports caster who thought he was "clear"?? Frank Liber?! ........thanks for the memories"

Date: November 13 2001 at 01:00:40
Name: Rodney Echohawk
Location: Sand Springs
How did you find TTM? Well done with a cool pink center

Mr. M. Pompazoidi, Indeed, yes, I am related to Brummett Echohawk. He and my father were cousins but apparently always called one another brother. So I grew up knowing him as my Uncle Brummett. He was a regular on the Big Bill and Oom-A-Gog show making kids' doodles into recognizable pictures. I believe he helped start the American Indian Theater Company and has acted in films, such as "Oklahoma Passage" where he played a Cherokee leader.

By the way Mr. Pompazoidi, your original brand of humor and countless Saturday nights of fun have made me unfit for human company. Thanks!

Date: November 12 2001 at 10:28:37
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Charlotte, NC

This morning's NYC crash - coverage here in Charlotte was late - they stayed with syndicated shows for 10 min. and gave out so much MIS-information on NYC, planes, et al when the networks returned programming to local stations...Local TV has too many non-experts making pronouncements sadly - in the race to get anything on air. It seemed ANY supposed NYC caller got on air locally or nationally - no one seemed to be screening callers and a lot of mis-information was given out by them, too.

Our hearts go out to the AA crew on board and all the passengers that perished....

Lionel Date: November 12 2001 at 09:26:22
Name: Lee Woodward
Location: Memory Lane (Chris's Sister)

The unknown man in the Dance Party photo is not Cy Tuma.The man pictured was the owner of a music company called M&M Music. They installed "Juke Boxes" around the area. That was a huge business back then by the way. I don't recall his name.

Date: November 12 2001 at 08:13:50
Name: Maaaaahke Bruchas
Location: Used CarLot, NC
How did you find TTM? On a coupon with any LANCE cracker product...

Claude Riggs Upholstery - Cy Tuma used to joke he was doubling as Claude Riggs in stills for ads that Riggs always had in the Tulsey paper...There IS a likeness....

Spent Sat. walking in downtown Charlotte - you think Tulsa is dead downtown - Charlotte is WORSE. A lot of 1775 buildings were torn down in the early '80s for big bank towers. We have $200,000 supposedly loft buildings going up where old factories that could have been made into lofts were torn down. Duh!But it IS a good hotdog town - their coney dogs still lack onions but this is positive sign of civilization here!

There are also few local book or record shops here - near all are national chain. We need a StarShip branch here or a local Lewis Meyer clone!

Date: November 12 2001 at 02:59:27
Name: Webmaster
Location: The Restless Ribbon

Someone out there called for a Brookside Shorts Day photo...here is Karen Keith hosting the festivities near the old Sunset Grill in 1984.

Karen Keith at Shorts Day (© M. Ransom, 1984)
Karen Keith at Shorts Day (by webmaster, 1984)

Date: November 11 2001 at 23:42:19
Name: Bob Duff
Location: Tulsey Town
How did you find TTM? It came to me in a vision....or maybe it was a bad pizza

I just remembered a schtick about KAKC and wonder if anybody out there can flesh it out a bit. During my stint there in the mid 60's a character appeard on our record surveys and elsewhere called K A Casey. The name, of course, was play on the call letters. His image was just a head wearing a cowboy hat, all of which was in the shape of our broadcast pattern. How that developed and why I don't recall. Anybody got any ideas or further information about that?

Mazeppa Date: November 11 2001 at 11:01:46
Name: Mazeppa

I want to thank Rodney Echohawk for sharing his memories of the embryonic Mazeppa! I remember that first painting on the show - I think we did it in stop-action so it looked like I painted it in ten seconds when in reality it took a couple of hours or so. I'm glad someone like Rodney, who appreciates it, got it. I think I did two or three or more of them - maybe someone out there remembers.

Rodney - are you related to Brummett Echohawk? He was a wonderful artist.



Brummett Echohawk shares an acting credit with Mr. Sartain: both have appeared in guest roles on "Walker, Texas Ranger". Mr. Echohawk's "Trail of Tears" is at the Gilcrease Museum here in Tulsa. He also drew a comic strip, "Little Chief", that appeared in the Sunday Tulsa World in the 60s.

I remember Mazeppa's painting of "the chinless man". I wonder whatever became of it?

Just a reminder: a selection of Mr. Sartain's art is currently on display at the Alexandre Hogue Gallery at TU, running through December 8. Details on the Bulletin Board.

Gwen Taylor, aka L'il Darleeng, courtesy of Lowell BurchDate: November 11 2001 at 10:46:05
Name: Mazeppa

Gwen Taylor was working at Channel 6 in the continuity department when I arrived there in 1970. She was a mysterious person with a strange beauty. Perfect for "L'il Darleeng" which she did wonderfully. The information about her marriage to Tommy Loki is correct, and prior to being at Channel 6, she did teach at Nathan Hale High School.

Best Lawzees!


Date: November 11 2001 at 06:17:10
Name: edwin
Location: 60's
How did you find TTM? who?

I knew Cy Tuma, and that is NOT Cy Tuma. As I recall (when it was taken) it was a very important client at the time. Can't remember if it was cars or furniture,& don't recall why there's a nickle-loadien there....but, I'm old. A WHOLE house of furniture for $299 perhaps?

Date: November 11 2001 at 01:38:37
Name: Jim Reid
Location: Dallas

It looks to me like Bill Hyden in the picture with Betty and Lee Woodward. Did he ever have a mustache? He's much too tall to be Cy.

Bill Hyden can be seen on the 2nd Newsmen page...you be the judge.

Date: November 11 2001 at 00:21:41
Name: John Harkins
Location: Tulsa
How did you find TTM? Sent to me by a friend...

Regarding the picture with Betty Boyd and Lee Woodward the third person is listed as "unknown man"...could that man be Cy Tuma?

The picture is on the Dance Party page...it resembles him a little, but I don't think it is Cy.

Date: November 10 2001 at 20:11:28
Name: P Dawson something
Location: Jax fl
How did you find TTM? same. black background, white lettering

I Spent last week in Manhattan at the SMPTE Convention. Coming, Going, and traversing all over, I saw the lack of tall buildings in the South End.

I also listened. Many sad As It Happened stories from the WNET/13 Engineering folks, including words from/about their own Rod Copolla up on WTC 104.

The loss of so much transmission equipment/reach/frustration has no real relevance when juxtaposed with the loss of so many lives. But every single person connected to the tragedy deserves their own time. I did my best to listen.

God bless them all.


Jax Fl.

Date: November 10 2001 at 00:28:29
Name: Bob Duff
Location: Tulsey Town
How did you find TTM? took a wrong turn

Darrell I appreciate your complimentary comments. Didn't know if you would remember me after all these years. I certainly remember you and, as I said, you certainly were, and are, one great shooter. More than that, you are a class act yourself and I am glad to know you are still hanging in there practicing your craft. As I am sure you know, most of the shooters today would be lost without their automatic video cameras. And, from what I see these days, they just don't, as a rule, have the instincts or creativity you and Bill Collard always displayed. I also agree with John Hillis; you just don't see local news products in other, even major, markets that you still see in Tulsa and OKC.

Date: November 09 2001 at 18:40:48
Name: Lowell Burch
Location: Fun Spot Amusement Park, Jenks, America
How did you find TTM? At the Nexus of the Universe

The pic I sent of the Hale school teacher did not look like the Lil' Dar-lin' I remembered, but, hey, 30 years has been a while. My memory and the yearbook picture are both a little fuzzy, not to mention my tv back in '69.

I mentioned in a earlier guestbook that I thought she did work at the station. Roy seems to have confirmed that understanding.

Well, I bet the old Doctor knows the answer. Lawzee!

Date: November 09 2001 at 14:46:51
Name: Darrell Barton
Location: Logan County, America

Bob..that pic brings back a lot of memories. You were always a class act on the streets. About a week after I moved to OKC I ran into Bill Collard at a fire scene. It didn't take me long to learn that the trick to shooting spot news in that town was to stay close to Collard. If he moved, I moved, and then tried to catch up. He had the best instincts I have ever seen. A great combination of agressiveness and good manners. A true gentleman.

Bob Duff at KOTV Date: November 09 2001 at 00:29:25
Name: Bob Duff
Location: Tulsey Town
How did you find TTM? under a moss covered rock in the flower bed

Just checked in after a bit of an absence. Found the comments by and about Darrell Barton of WKY fame. I agree he was the best shooter in town at that time. I also feel that a very close second was the late Bill Collard who was chief photog at KOCO during my stint there. He was also my mentor as I made the change from radio to TV and I learned a great deal from him. I am glad to know that Barton is still out there shooting. There just aren't many like him.

This picture of Bob is from the main KOTV page.

More on "Little Dar-ling" from Roy Byram just below...

Date: November 05 2001 at 15:31:43
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Not Tulsey but in the Bible Belt again...

Hey - no one has made any comments on the new WB station in Tulsey or Wichita.

How are ya'all ranking the program offerings? Is anyone watching?

Did Mr. Locke ever get the $25,000,000 he wanted to buy his fiefdom of OK stations???

Here in SHAR-lot, we have 2 indy stations now doing news - like a 6:30pm cast on one and a 10pm on another.

The older folks here must be like those in Tulsey - all of the older news "stars" are gone and the market is dominated by 30-somethings. Many here say the newscasts are NOT the quality they used be locally.

FOX ("totally truthful and accurate" - oh sure...) News on cable here is beating CNN but many systems in the area may have been given a sweet deal to carry them over CNN and the CNN family of nets.

MSNBC is the also-ran and CNBC no one sees here....Funny since the NBC Newschannel is based here....
If any of you readers attended ORU in the '70's - one of your classmates, David Wooten works with me here in NC. Say hi if you remember him....

Date: November 05 2001 at 00:35:06
Name: Richard Wilson
Location: Tussa
How did you find TTM? Alone, in an alley at Main and Brady

If the person in question (Little Dar-ling) is the same Gwen Taylor....she was for a time married to Tommy Loki....local Tussa musician.....aka...Gwen Taylor Loki.... it is my understanding that she has passed....... she and I were very close friends......

Roy Byram said via email:

"Sorry, I don't remember the lady's name, but she was not a school teacher at Hale. She worked with the sales department as a continuity person. She was there from 9-5 M-F and sometimes on Thursday late, because Thursday was the day we taped Mazeppa. She got to be good friends with the ad agency that repped 7-up, Frosty Mug Root Beer and Greer's Stereo."

Gailard Sartain agrees with both Roy and Richard later in this Guestbook about Ms. Taylor, but also recalls that she was a teacher at Hale before working at KOTV.

Date: November 04 2001 at 04:41:25
Name: Rodney Echohawk
Location: Sand Springs, OK
How did you find TTM? Bokacheeta Chamber of Commerce

While attending Oklahoma State University in the mid 1970's I was awe-struck when visiting home one Saturday to find G. Ailard S. Artain and Teddy Jack Eddy going rampant at midnight on KAKC radio.

The Unfilmy Can Festival, I found, took up where the Uncanny Film Festival left off in 1973. During the Unfilmy Can Festival, Jim aka Sherman Oaks joined Gailard and Gary doing skits and bogus commercials interspersed with the music of Merle Haggard, Ethel Merman and a Calypso crooner known as "Rojo in Hi-Fi", to name just a few.

The skits included Tulsa Teen Town Topics, the Rev. Dr. Menlo Park and his Panamanian Punks and a John F. Lawhon parody (cause beanbags always make that funny noise!). G. Ailard played dueling weather forecasts with Gary Busey with each contradicting the other's time checks. And of course there were those memorable PSA's advising travelers entering Oklahoma they needed to check their fruits and vegetables at turnpike toll booths (Kansas, not just a state, but a state of mind. Closed holidays).

I loved the bit where G. Ailard told Unfilmy Can Festival listeners (shut-ins as he called them) who had nothing else shaking on a Saturday night how they could create their own one-person party at home. Tulsa radio was never the same again! My tapes of the show are well worn but treasured.

Date: November 03 2001 at 13:03:08
Name: David Batterson
Location: NM
How did you find TTM? With my Ovaltine modem!

I remember one day while I was doing studio cam at KTUL. Don Woods was doing the noon ("Cy Tuma") news. And someone had spilled Pepsi on the studio floor, and as Cy went to leave the desk he slipped and hit the floor. Don Woods laughed and Cy gave Don the finger. Then Don REALLY laughed, and barely got through the weathercast from breaking up!

Date: November 03 2001 at 11:43:49
Name: Webmaster

Archived Guestbook 95...

Mr. Rick Vivion, a new contributor, remembered a former teacher at Hale, Gwen Taylor, as "Little Dar-ling" of the Mazeppa show...the picture of Ms. Taylor is courtesy of Lowell Burch. Little Darling

Darrell Barton, a top news shooter for many years, recalled the "turnpike exchange". To get a video tape from OKC to Tulsa or vice-versa, a civilian motorist was asked to carry the tape to a party at the other end.

Connie Chanowski (aka Bob Scofield) was remembered by his son, David, as well as by Don Lundy and Edwin Fincher. We also saw a picture of Connie.

The Oklahoma Historical Society paid a visit. OKC readers Greg Leslie and Patrick Bryant weighed in. Our regular contributors kept up the good work.

This site has a new, easy to remember URL: tulsaTVmemories.com. The "TV" is capitalized only for visual clarity; case doesn't matter. The old URL still works, too. After explaining to Don Norton why I didn't bother reserving the new URL, I then thought, "Why not?"

This hardly covers all of #95, so it would be best to check it out for yourself!

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