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November 29 2008 at 22:41:24
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: Guy Atchley
Comments: He finally has the genesis of his new photo gallery/blog
up and running.
Go visit at:
He's shooting a lot of digital stills these days, often tied to stories and
people he has met.
He really loves Arizona. Not bad for a one-time kid from Sapulpa!
November 29 2008 at 12:01:56
Name: Scott Linder
Topic: Nat tracks, etc.
Comments: Jim Ruddle, thanks so much for your comments and for
the "cattle" story... very funny.
I was recently shooting a lengthy low-key scene on a stage at CBS. During
each take we heard a strange "squeaking" under the dialogue. This is sometimes
caused by a camera dolly moving on ancient studio floors, but there was no
dolly. After some investigation we discovered that it was the sneakers being
worn by the steadi-cam operator! We asked him to remove his shoes. The noise
vanished and the sound department bought him several pairs of new socks as
a "thank you".
I also appreciate your experience and interest in manually-produced effects.
Despite the thousands of available SFX libraries these days, Foley artists
often provide much better results. I never cease to be amazed at their creativity
and ability to match action. Plus, it's always fun to watch a 175-pound guy
walking in high heels on a Foley-stage concrete slab!
November 29 2008 at 07:08:42
Name: K. Bolen
Topic: Tulsa Speedway
Comments: Hi Tom. I'm not real sure, but I believe the street
stock driver who was fatally injured had the name CW Whorton or Horton. I
can't be sure but I can tell you that I still have the original program in
my mom's attic back in Broken Arrow, OK along with a huge collection of Open
Wheel! Speaking of, I have the first copy (in a frame and intact) hanging
on my wall as I type this! *LOL*
This accident was one to prompt stricter material and welding requirements
for the full bodied cars. As I remember, the vehicle was struck on the door
and the roll cage failed. At that time, the steet stocks raced earlier on
Saturday. We had just gotten to the track when the accident happened.
Also, I can't recall the accident in question here or remember a story from
any of the drivers or track personal about it (and I knew quite a few).
Especially if it was a sprint race in which many of the locals didn't own
sprint cars but had supermodifieds.
November 28 2008 at 19:32:51
Topic: Track sounds
Comments: We used to called them "presence" tracks, although
"actuality" and "nat sound" were also employed.
Nothing sounds less real than a track with NO sound at all.
But just because you have some sound doesn't mean that it's going to work.
The damnedest stuff can appear when you get back to edit.
I once did a story at the Wichita stockyards for Nightly News and when we
gathered around the cutter in the editing room and ran the Nagra dub we had
a strange noise that permeated the piece. No matter what we did, we kept
hearing this rough, almost grating sound.
Finally, someone remembered that the sound guy had kept his recorder going
while we stood in the one hundred degree sun near the cattle pens. What we
heard was cows PANTING. None of us noted it at the time of the shoot but
when somebody lined up shots of the cows with the sound, it was certain.
The cellophane crinkle goes back to radio drama days. The effects guys were
ingenious and had to be. The all-time winner was for one of the horror shows,
like Inner Sanctum, Lights Out, or one of those. The play was about people
who were pulled--literally--out of their skins. They were turned inside out.
The sound effect was achieved by a guy pulling off a wet rubber glove. It
was a ghastly sound to accompany the script.
Arch Oboler, creator of "Lights Out", wrote a radio play,
Chicken Heart", a wild take-off on an actual experiment by
Carrel in 1912. It had similarly squishy sound effects.
November 28 2008 at 14:13:54
Name: Scott Linder
Topic: Nat-sound tracks
Comments: Just a brief note with regard to nat-sound
I record a nat-sound or ambience track for every take, especially if all
dialogue is being taken of RFs. This is a crucial element and allows the
post mixer to smooth-out or open-up the tracks when dialogue is inter-cut
from several takes.
In addition, I always get wild tracks of any special elements that may have
stepped-on dialogue such as a fireplace, water sounds, traffic background,
crowd reactions, etc. This method often prevents costly ADR sessions and
helps to assure my future employment.
So, get those nat-tracks!!!
November 27 2008 at 19:35:33
Name: Richard Wilson
Topic: None in particular
Comments: Can't we all just get along??
November 27 2008 at 13:29:05
Name: Tom Horn
Topic: Racing Deaths
Comments: Brashear: If in fact there was a death of the sort
you are accusing, then certainly you would know the name of the deceased.
If you could provide that, then it might lend credence to your story. However,
until that is provided, your story will always be in question. If not, then
there could still be charges filed if your story is found to have any substance.
The names of the deaths provided are also inconclusive as they have left
off Van Beber and the street stock driver I mentioned earlier.
Side note to Lee, Johnny Rutherford had both arms broken when you and he
did the track announcing. I have a picture in one my Open Wheel magazines
that shows his arms flailing in the air as he is about 15 feet in the air.
Some of the information provided here is from Mark Champion who wrote for
the Speedway news.
at Racing From The Past's forum may have the answer:
Charles Crawford: "I think it was Karl VanBeber. SSDI (Social Security
Death Index) shows 1968. Vanbeber's car was similar the Lies. He was
racing with Gene Wardlow #39 coming out of turn 3. Wardlow clipped him and
sent him flying. I remember VanBeber's car flying apart as it went bounding
out turn 3 to turn 4 going over the turn 4 guardrail. I do remember people
(including my mom) saying that Wardlow was a rough driver and probably did
it on purpose. Seems like VanBeber had only just started driving and was
in or just out of the Navy...Also I think there was a James VanBeber that
raced some after that. BUT 40 years is a long time ago!"
Ray said: "James Vanbeber was killed in the summer of 1969 - I remember to
talking to him the previous week before he died in a flip at Tulsa Speedway.
His brother Karl raced modifieds in 1974 & 1975 that I remember in Tulsa.."
Bill's T Records #45; photo by Freddy Gaither,
courtesy of Racing From The
November 27 2008 at 11:13:53
Name: John B.
Topic: Left of the Dial
Comments: NE Oklahoma's 91.3 is one cool radio station. I was
listening to it all day this past Saturday and was really impressed, entertained,
and educated all at once, especially with the old-school country show. Great
stuff from RSU. Also love that Tulsa has an all-day NPR news station going
24/7. Atlanta should be so lucky.
That's KRSC 91.3 in Claremore at Rogers
State University (former site of the Oklahoma Military Academy).
I met the host of "Hillbilly Happy Hour", Johnney Hall, at a live broadcast
from the Circle Cinema lobby back in June. Great show, and a great station,
as is KWGS 89.5.
Both stream online.
November 26 2008 at 22:31:09
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: Happy Turkey Day
Comments: To ya'all!
Don't forget the
up of Utica Square!
November 26 2008 at 20:33:39
Name: Richard Wilson
Topic: More unnatural sounds
Comments: There were also many instances in the audio booth
of crinkling the cellophane wrapper from a pack of cigarettes to simulate
the sound of a burning house (no matter the size of the house)... closer
to the microphone was a bigger fire, and farther away was smaller... or a
And blowing across the microphone served very well for a gas fire at a nearby
pumping station. Creativity abounded in those days before digital sampling
and computer generated effects.
November 26 2008 at 19:30:10
Name: Richard Wilson
Topic: "Unnatural Sound"
Comments: I do indeed remember the incident .....
As I recall, the sound track included the film processor being turned on
and off, and one or the other of us.....I don't remember which.....barking
like a dog in the distance, while the other tried (with little success) to
stifle laughter in the background.
I do recall that DDT gave our efforts a big thumbs up while the news staff
was assembled in the newsroom to view the 6 o'clock, and have a staff meeting
at the same time.
B.O.B. may have been a bit distracted, though, as I believe this was also
one of the several times that his tailor was present, trying to take measurements
for a new suit of clothes while Bob paced about the front of the room
pontificating on the elements of style, and the sad state of journalism in
Those indeed were the days!!!
November 26 2008 at 16:31:56
Name: Mike Miller
Topic: Richard Wilson
Comments: Richard: Thanks, glad you enjoyed the book.
I was wondering the other day if you recall the time we got an edict from
DDT (aka Bob Gregory) that ALL film must have
a natural sound track. We had some film that had very loud silence, so we
went out to the parking lot and created our own natural sound. Ah, those
were the days.
Also wanted to clarify that Rex Brinlee had no ill feelings toward you! He
rather liked those shots you had of him in handcuffs walking between jail
and courtroom, always escorted by Deputy Bob Randolph who hated us more than
Rex ever did.
Odene once told me that Rex had long ago
turned bad and that she and her wayward son had been estranged for years.
Rex could give black sheep a bad name.
November 26 2008 at 09:36:59
Name: Frank Morrow
Topic: Racing deaths
Comments: You can go back even farther in time to find more
driver deaths in the midgets at the fairgrounds race track. In the late '40s,
George Koch was killed when his car flipped end-over-end down the front straight.
Lucky Purnell died when his car did a slow rollover coming out of turn four
in a feature race. There was no damage to the car except a small indentation
in the driver's side where Purnell's racer rolled over his head. During these
years there were no roll cages or bars on the cars and the drivers didn't
use full safety belt restraints.
As to rough driving, there was only one driver who was considered "dirty."
George Binnie, a track champion, had developed the art of "nerfing" cars
out of the way. He would tap the left rear of the opponent's car and spin
him out, but not enough to cause a wreck. Binnie could always get by safely.
George was roundly hated by other drivers and the fans in the grandstand.
For the most part the drivers had to be circumspect in their driving because
of the lack of safety features that we now have. That restraint has changed
today in the era of roll cages, full safety belt restraints, and fuel cell
bladders. At the Chili Bowl it is not unusual to have fourteen cars flip
in one evening, accidents that would have killed most drivers back in the
'40s and '50s.
More about Binnie and midget racing from Frank in
November 25 2008 at 23:28:56
Name: Rick 'Brashear'
Topic: Tulsa Speedway
Comments: To Tom Horn:
I was there and saw it. He was deliberately hit and went up over the wall
and it was reported he died. I was sitting with Bob Bachtell, of the Tulsa
racing LeRoy Bachtell family, and he saw and heard the same things. I said
I didn't remember if it was in the late 1960s or the early 1970s. I would
have mostly been at the races in the late 1960s. The guy got hit. And I did
say that the guy was 'leading the pack': "They tried blocking him but they
couldn't get around him. He was just too fast and a better driver." I was
mistaken about the turn number. It was turn number 4, after I thought about
it. Do you not remember the knock down, drag out fights in the pits? That
was a separate entertainment. Clipping someone was nothing new on the track.
It's just that that time, someone died and it very much looked of malice.
Go ahead and be sick, but don't mis-quote me or call me a liar, because
apparently you weren't there at the time.
There is no (s) at the end of my name. Even when I spell it for people, some
of them get it wrong. And yes, there is an 'e' in potatoes.
Ron Lux' crash was on turn 4, according to Lee Woodward
below. Are you saying it was his crash that you saw?
Here is a
of fatalities at the Tulsa Fairgrounds from Motorsport Memorial. Lux
(1966) and Ellis (1965) appear to be the only ones close to the specified
November 25 2008 at 21:59:59
Name: Tom Horn
Topic: Tulsa Speedway correction
Email: gethenet at aol dot com
Comments: I can't let the story that Rick Brashears wrote
go on without contesting it. I'm not sure I ever did or ever will know any
driver that would have put a hit on anyone at the Tulsa Speedway. The story
is so full of holes that this writer couldn't make up his mind whether the
driver was leading or following the pack.
I am ashamed that I cannot remember the street stock driver that died in
my years there but there were only 4 other deaths on the track in my years.
I knew each of them more than I should and miss them all. Len Perlich, Junior
Taft, Jeff Sykes, and Gene Daniels. These were the only deaths between 1971
and 1983 when I was there driving the ambulance. Each one had extreme injuries
and none were taken out by any hit.
The thought of accusing any one driver(s) of a hit makes me sick and to have
someone say it is very offensive. If you have more to say please don't blog
it. God rest all of them.
November 25 2008 at 21:48:34
Name: Richard Wilson
Topic: Once, again... Mike's Book
Comments: The neurons are firing once again, and Mike's book
has caused an incident to bubble to the surface. It concerns the "sexploitation
coverage" (or uncoverage) during ratings at local stations.
When I was a photographer at a local Tulsa station, we set out to do our
own prostitute sting along 11th Street, complete with telephoto lenses, wireless
mics, and all the other accoutrements, including a quite handsome rookie
reporter in a snazzy convertible. Everything was set, the camera was working
fine, the wireless mic was working fine (an achievement in the early 70s),
and the rookie reporter was properly coiffed and had the requisite good looks
firmly nailed down.
When the lady in question approached the car, we went into full sting mode!
Everything was working perfectly, until the moment that the winsome lass
requested to view the gentleman's privates. The rookie reporter uttered something
like ........UHH, Okay, reached in his back pocket and produced his driver's
license. I believe you could actually hear the laughter from the stakeout
van on the wireless mic.
The project was put on hold (so to speak) until a later date. Ahh....."stakeout
journalism.".....my favorite kind. Needless to say, the film enjoyed more
showings that Gone With the Wind..........all in the editing room.
November 25 2008 at 20:12:54
Name: Richard Wilson
Topic: Mike Miller's Book
Comments: Mike......Just bought a copy of
your book, and read it in one sitting. (yes, I
CAN read) thought it was excellent, and was surprised to discover my name
among the luminaries therein. Also, you must be the only person in Amerika
that has a higher opinion of Jim Inhofe than I do.
By the way, Cleo was in a cistern, not a septic tank. This was made clear
in an article about a year ago by her daughter that appeared in the
Crime Monthly (Urban Tulsa article), a relatively sleazy, yet
strangely compelling rag.
November 25 2008 at 17:08:01
Topic: James Aydelott
Comments: Just found out that former KOTV morning meteorologist
James Aydelott will be the new chief meteorologist at Fox 23 starting next
year. He's been in Dallas the past 2 or 3 years.
I liked James. It will be good to have him back.
I second that motion!
November 24 2008 at 11:21:15
Topic: Glenda Silvey
Comments: I saw this morning during the News on Six that Glenda
Silvey is leaving Channel 6 to become media relations director for OU medical
Her last day will be December 5th and we are asked to send in responses to
them about Glenda and how she will be missed.
November 24 2008 at 00:24:36
Name: Mike Bruchas
Topic: Ed Volkman
Comments: TU alum Ed Volkman, son of retired weather
legend, Harry Volkman, has been laid off after 20 years at WBBM-FM in Chicago.
But he and his on-air partner aren't crying.
Rosenthal's story about it in the Chicago Tribune.
version of the same story links to TTM about Harry Volkman.
November 23 2008 at 14:52:10
Name: Kenny Bolen
Topic: Tulsa Speedway - Early Years
Comments: Thanks Mr. Woodward for your insight. I was much
too young at the time to remember a lot about the earlier days. I was lucky
enough to be present later in life with the Cagles (father and son), the
Crawfords, Lemmons, Hahns and countless others on their memories.
Also included with the Rutherfords where Lloyd Ruby (another Texan), the
Unsers now and then, a Bettenhausen now and then, and the forementioned
November 23 2008 at 14:26:02
Topic: Fairgrounds Racing
Comments: K. Bolen's recalling the unfortunate deaths
associated with racing at the fairgrounds exceeds my memories of the years
I was the track announcer for Dick Colvin Racing. That would be: 1964 maybe,
'65 and '66 for sure.
I remember the name Leroy Ellis but not his demise. The only one I remember
vividly was when the sprint cars came for the first time to Colvin Racing.
I remember that Mario Andretti was there and some other Indy types whose
names I can't remember. Assisting me (happily) in the announce tower was
fellow Texan, Johnny
Rutherford (photo). That happy circumstance was because he had
broken his arm and couldn't drive.
I can't remember which heat race it was, but a driver named Ron Lux came
out of turn four, got out of control on the short straight and headed for
the steel rails that ran around the sides of the track down towards turn
one. His car's front right wheel dug in and threw his car in the air. It
then barrel-rolled down the top of the rails very rapidly, just about, if
not right in the cockpit area.
Johnny indicated to me to turn off the mike, then said to me: "He bought
it." Then he said not to mention that possibility and that we would would
just fill with race info, etc. and wait for official information as the driver
would be taken to the hospital for evaluation.
This, by the way, was before there were cages and wings on Sprint cars. But,
I don't think it would have made any difference. It was a sad evening for
all of us and especially for the family of Ron Lux.
The modified cars that ran at that time could get pretty exciting, but sprint
cars were really intense.
I am happy to say, that was the only tragedy I was witness to. There were
others that came after non-fatal injuries to change the lives forever for
November 23 2008 at 12:53:23
Topic: Best Children's Music 2008
Former KTUL and CNN producer John Boydston, as musical group Daddy A Go
Best Children's Music 2008 list. Congratulations, John.
The cover of his latest,
of All Ages", was painted by Gailard Sartain.
Of particular interest to me is the fact that world-class guitarist and
producer Rick Derringer, who wrote Johnny Winter's hit, "Rock and Roll, Hootchie
Koo", recorded one of John's songs for his latest album
November 23 2008 at 12:50:10
Name: K. Bolen
Topic: Tulsa Speedway - Early Years
Comments: During the period of racing between '61 and '66,
Tulsa Speedway experienced three deaths. Bill Dillard, whose family is still
involved and races IMCA modifieds and street stocks around the Arkansas and
Oklahoma area, was fatally injured in '61. Leroy Ellis died in '65, and Ron
Lux, who was from the East Coast died in '66. He was the Oswego (NY) 1965
Supermodified Champion (which their version is totally different than Tulsa's
and race on asphalt).
The track changed to the 5/8 mile after '72. Jeff Sykes lost his life during
the start of race in '75. If I'm not mistaken, Jeff had flipped his car earlier
and suffered a broken leg and concussion in which he flipped again (almost
in the same manner and circumstance) a few races later and suffered his fatal
injuries. I also seem to think one or both were captured on film as well
during those years.
November 23 2008 at 06:44:13
Name: Rick Brashear
Topic: Tulsa Speedway
Comments: In the late 1960s or early 1970s, I don't remember
what year, I and others, even if they didn't realize it, witnessed a murder
at The Tulsa Speedway at the fairgrounds.
There was a new guy driving a previously-owned sprint car that had belonged
to A. J. Foyt. It had been carbureted from the original fuel-injected system
in order to get it into the Super Modified category and was a speed demon
and the driver was sharp.
After a few heats that the new guy had won, he was ganged up on by some locals.
They tried blocking him but they couldn't get around him. He was just too
fast and a better driver.
During the last heat of the night, because of the death, coming into turn
#3 one local driver deliberately clipped his left-rear tire, which launched
him up over the wall and killed him when he came smashing down on the other
side. The local drivers involved were happy and nothing more was said about
it other than, "It was a real tragedy," or some such BS.
I was around some of the drivers involved after that and caught their drift.
There was no mistaking the hit on the guy because it was exactly at the right
place at the right moment. The guy sitting next to me also knew what they
had done. I can remember how it played out, but I can't remember who was
involved because everything was going so fast and we soon forgot who was
driving what when it happened. No charges were filed.
November 22 2008 at 15:33:54
Name: Kenny Bolen
Topic: Correction - Gene Daniel
Comments: The driver killed during the '81 season at the Tulsa
Speedway was Gene Daniel (#07) and not Gene Reynolds.
I was there (viewing from the pits) during the start of the A feature and
agree it was one of the most violent crashes I have ever witnessed (and I've
been watching or racing most of my 47 years).
Sadly, we also lost Junior Taft ealier in that year which as Mr. Etter commented,
promoted the fact that in addition to the wings, a smaller 3/8 mile track
was introduced and stayed until the track moved to Owasso a few years later.
Made the correction on Blake Etter's KGCT page.
November 21 2008 at 17:45:11
Topic: The right name
Comments: Richard Wilson,
You nailed the name that I couldn't come up with for the club Willie played
in. The Chaparral it was. I just knew it wasn't the Fondalite at that time.
November 21 2008 at 00:05:06
Name: Gary Chew
Topic: Tulsan On MSNBC
Comments: I was drifting along with some story being covered by
MSNBC yesterday, I think it was. It was a congressional hearing. Congressman
Barney Frank (D-MA) was talking. I was barely listening. And whoops, there
right behind Representative Frank sat Jason Pitcock, whose dad is Bob Gregory
of radio and television news fame in Tulsa and as well as the CBS-TV D.C.
bureau some years back.
Frank is the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee. Jason is
on that staff. When I was visiting Tulsa last Christmas at Bob's place, I
learned that Jason had applied for a job with Barney's staff, and shortly
after the first of the year, Bob emailed me that Jason has scored the job.
Fun to see a Tulsan getting a little national exposure. The only thing was:
Jason was sitting right behind Barney, and I could only see about 3/4ths
of his face. I emailed Jason and suggested that his boss moved a little one
way or the other next time MSNBC was covering Frank. Jason seemed reluctant
to do so.
Delmeaux de Gillette du Coffeyville
From GB 266: Gary spotted this photo in a 5/1/2008 New York Times story.
Jason is at the upper right.
Photo by Doug Mills
November 20 2008 at 22:13:33
Topic: Helen of Tulsa
Charlie Tooley sent this link to a Time Magazine article recapping the
story of Helen Alvarez' and George Cameron's KOTV startup, adding a few new
of Tulsa", dated 12/12/1949.
November 20 2008 at 20:52:18
Name: Richard Wilson
Comments: I believe that the "Infamous"
Fondalite Club was previously known as the
Chaparral. Not Absolutely certain, but some remote neurons fired (or maybe
shorted out) and that name came out of the old Univac.
November 20 2008 at 10:03:04
Topic: Life does Helen
Comments: Wow! That's quite the coverage (or not) of Helen Alvarez.
of the pictures and could not identify anyone who was still at KOTV when
I came there in 1957. I don't know when Jim Ruddle arrived or Noel Confer
I am happy to see the photos of Helen though, as I had never seen her and
only recall seeing one photo of her before, none of which were as, shall
we say, revealing as these.
There were many stories of her career and I wouldn't have any idea which
might be legitimate. That she was attractive, provocative, entrepreneurial
and successful is a given. Coincidentally, she was the only female G.M. until
KOTV's current General Manager, Regina Moon. I don't believe any other Tulsa
station had a female in charge unless KTUL's Sadie Adwon might have had a
To repeat something that may have already been said in the past here. Helen
was responsible for the selection of "on air" male talent and obviously had
a good eye, as KOTV, Channel Six quickly became known as KOTV, Channel Sex.
The only things I recognized were: the remote truck, the two-mirror setup
to allow an elevated camera shot, and the huge studio. Sorry I was no more
Restored // Early TV Mogul Home Fine for Family Living", Tulsa World
article by Yvonne Litchfield, 4/2/1994, states that Helen Alvarez once lived
in a mansion at 2902 E. 31st St. (across the street from John Knox Presbyterian
(Interestingly, the mansion was originally built by Tulsa oilman Elfred
Beck in the late 1940s. Beck later started up Tulsa's
first Channel 23, KCEB, B-E-C-K spelled backwards.)
Her brother, Jim Harmon, passed away in 2000:
KOTV director dies" (Tulsa World).
"Harmon retired as president and general manager of KTTY Channel 69 in
San Diego. After his retirement he continued to serve as a consultant for
the property interest of his sister."
The Alvarez surname derived from a brief marriage at age 17 to Joseph
Alvarez. She subsequently married John B. Hill, a sales manager at KOTV.
Her third marriage was to banker C. Arnholt Smith in California.
She was inducted into the Oklahoma Association of Broadcasters Hall of
Fame in early 2003:
new inductees named to broadcasters hall of fame" (Tulsa World).
This 12/22/2006 blog entry in
states that Ms. Alvarez was 85 and spry in San Diego as of that date.
A 5/18/2006 post by Don Ballard in the
Yahoo Group gives more info and references TTM. Don supplied the photo
of Ms. Alvarez and Jack Wrather seen on the KOTV
history page of the 1967 TU masters thesis by Greg Corarito.
Lee Woodward has a related outstanding question from the previous GroupBlog:
what are the names of KOTV General Managers after Alan Howard?
November 19 2008 at 19:41:11
Topic: 200 KOTV photos from Life Magazine,
Comments: I just found a treasure trove.
Google is now adding photos from Life Magazine's archive. Apparently,
there was a big 1952 article on Helen Alvarez,
the original General Manager of KOTV. I am amazed at the "hotness" of many
of the poses.
There are many more photos than would be used in a feature. Harry Volkman
is seen in action as weatherman. Maybe Jim Ruddle and Lee Woodward can ID
some of the other folks in the pics.
This Google Images search:
Tv Exec source:life picks up all the photos.
Added 11/20: A reader permitted me to anonymously share his emailed
"As a former Tulsan, I could not help but comment privately to you about
seeing these photos of Miss Alvarez. My first thought after seeing them was,
a mimic of Susan Hayward! Keep in mind that Susan made the movie 'Tulsa'
and it premiered in Tulsa in 1949 and she made several visits during that
time to town.
"I think most definitely Helen ran with the Hollywood crowd and desired to
be viewed as such by others and certainly she attracted a number of people
in business. I think it was one way that a woman in the 1950s could get ahead
by looking somewhat the part of a "star" as well as being tough in business
and certainly Helen was all of that and more from what I recall and read
Susan Hayward starred in the movie "Tulsa" in 1949
Does anyone know what became of Ms. Alvarez after her partnership with
Jack Wrather (TV producer
of "The Lone Ranger" and "Lassie") ended in 1958?
November 18 2008 at 12:35:02
Topic: Previous GroupBlog summary
Archived GroupBlog 275, where Lee Woodward just
recalled Willie Nelson in Tulsa in the 1960s.
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