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January 18 2003 at 04:48:31
Name: Emily Webb
Location: My chair in front of the computer.
Comments: All this talk about Mexican food is making me hungry.
I guess El Chico is a national chain. They had those when I lived back in
Kentucky. It was the first restaurant I visited that had "real" Mexican food
instead of fast food.
Too bad Tulsa doesn't have a "Taco John's." They have them in several states,
and it's a bit better than the "Taco Bueno" restuarants that are around here.
MMM. Casa Bonita. I like eating there, but I don't go very often because
I always eat so much when I'm there that I'm miserable for days. When I moved
here, I didn't know what that place was until a good friend took me there
one day, and asked the waiter to seat us in the "cave" section. I felt a
bit confused and puzzled until we got to the section that was like a real
cave. I think I'm almost ready to go back.
So, do any of the regular contributors to this guestbook and site ever get
together once and a while for dinner?
January 17 2003 at 23:25:40
Name: Lee Woodward (via email)
Comments: I am glad that Jim Ruddle brought up Mexican food because
it has been badly abused by some from its original authentic roots.
I grew up in Arlington, Texas and remember the many Mexican restaurants in
the Dallas-Fort Worth area. All of them made everything "in house" and it
was wonderful. Nothing ran together on the plate.
When I came to Tulsa in 1957, it was much the same and the really good places
had been here for some time. I remember a place on 15th Street (just east
of Atlanta) run by a fellow named Victor Mendoza. He played a fair guitar
and sang. Alas, a better singer than owner. He later played and sang at La
Casa Bonita at 21st and Sheridan.
My all-time favorite was in Arlington. Called "La Tapatia," it was owned
by gringos but everyone and everything else was Mexican. The owner's son
made the statement once that Mexican food was the most profitable food on
the face of the earth! And he was right. Done right, one of the most enjoyable.
El Chico stills does well in T-Town after first starting years ago in Dallas
January 17 2003 at 18:49:33
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Muy bueno!
Comments: Had my first non-home-cooked tamale in Westchester, IL at
a drive-in that is long gone - was on a bridge access that is now a cloverleaf.
Some company was selling tamales to butcher shops in our home town when I
was a kid and Mom steamed them at home. She had taught in Monte Vista, CO
in circa 1941 which was a railroad town with a large Spanish-speaking population
and she grew interested in Mexican food. When we found this now long gone
drive- in, tamales were the only non-burger item on the menu and I think
you got 3 tamales for a $1.
I still dream of El Chico in its prime in Tulsa!
January 17 2003 at 18:35:41
Comments: Purple Overdose
is a "psychedelic dream pop" band featuring Lee Woodward's son Merritt "The
Ferritt" Woodward on lead guitar. Their song "Steal The Sun" has been nominated
for "#1 power pop song of 2002" on Popbang Radio. The song (and others) can
be heard at
link on MP3.com. They are a talented group...check them out.
From their communique: "The Dose" would be extremely grateful for
any assistance from our friends and family. Simply click on this link
Popbang.com and scroll down to the yellow
box and submit your vote for Purple Overdose - "Steal The Sun".
January 17 2003 at 07:30:48
Name: Jim Ruddle
Location: Rye NY
Comments: Tacos exotic in 1972? Finding a taco in San Antone in 1956
and wondering how to pronounce it?
Where was I during the forties when Little Mexico was on 18th Street, just
north of Quaker Drug? Or La Hacienda, out by TU, or a half-dozen other Mexican
places whose names, after these many years have escaped me. It was in these
establishments that we first learned of Dos Equis, where we discovered that
we could fill up on tacos and "combo platters" and have a cheap date.
Mexican food was one of the signal pleasures of growing up in Tulsa and the
surrounding area. Tamale men roamed the streets in nearly every town of any
It was only when I got to New York, in 1951, that I found that tacos were
exotic,that the Manhattan phone book listed only one Mexican restaurant,
La Mariposa, and it was a dog.
What can I say? I guess I led a sheltered life in T-town.
January 17 2003 at 00:17:35
Name: Jon Cummins
Location: Terlton, Okla.
Comments: I remember going to the Dust Bowl and seeing Bob Anderson
play his ODE
banjo when I was about 12. Dad was with me, and that may have been my
first taste of "folk" music and pizza. I never had any "fast food" except
an occasional Hank's, or a real treat was Norman Angel's.
I remember when I was 5 in 1956 we took a trip to San Antone, and Mom, Dad,
Sis & I were hungry and we stopped at a Mexican joint. Dad came back
to the car & asked Mom what a taco was. It was the easiest thing for
him to pronounce in Spanish. We really liked sharing the 3 delicious tacos
that cost $1.00. They were no doubt larger than today's entries.
Was Lea's the first pizza joint in T-town?
I met Jon recently at a wedding where he was playing bass with "Sounds
Good", a jazz group. Actually, I had sort of met him in 1969 when Jon was
a senior playing tuba in band at East Central high school and I was a lowly
sophomore third clarinet player. Welcome, Jon. Your classmate, Joy Cooper,
is a frequent contributor.
Tacos, tostadas and burritos still seemed exotic in Tulsa by 1971, when
I had my first taste of those items at Taco Boy, just east of 21st &
Sheridan. Today, we have a good selection of Indian, Thai, Japanese, Vietnamese,
Chinese and Mexican...quite an improvement.
Wasn't St. Michael's Alley (previously mentioned on this site, and still
a coffee house and restaurant at 31st & Harvard) also a folkie place
in the 60s?
January 16 2003 at 00:04:17
Name: Carl Gregory (via email)
Comments: The Dust Bowl was a great place, had many memories and good
times there. Here is a piece from the Dust Bowl that used to be on the tables.
Thanks, Carl. Read Larry Kraus' piece below about this folkie hangout
of the mid-60s in Tulsa. I threw in the ad from Lea's, since the Dust Bowl
has it on their menu.
January 14 2003 at 10:32:45
Name: Chris Starr
That sounds correct.....Beth was an encore song on that tour and the sound
of Peter's off-key warbling would be enough to send any fan over the edge!
KISS actually returned with Peter just ten months later on their Alive II
tour.......I guess money speaks louder than a Jack Daniels bottle.....
Here is a breakdown of Tulsa appearances by KISS:
2/12/75 - Cain's Ballroom
Thankfully a promoter never picked up this show and it never was played.....Gene
Simmons would have set that low ceiling on fire for sure!
6/13/75 - Fairgrounds Pavillion with Rare Earth and Point Blank
3/8/76 - Assembly Center with Electromagnets
1/6/77 - Assembly Center with Uriah Heep
11/26/77 - Assembly Center with Detective
10/29/79 - Assembly Center with Breathless
2/22/86 - Expo Square Pavillion with WASP
11/24/87 - Expo Square Pavillion with White Lion
5/8/90 - Expo Square Pavillion with Slaughter and Faster Pussycat
By the way, what ever happened to the numerous seventies promoters like Stone
City Attractions, Beaver Productions, Concerts West.......?
January 14 2003 at 09:35:35
Location: from inside the padded room
Comments: I just wanted to point out to the viewers that Gary Elliott,
pictured in this current guestbook performing at the Appollo, has also provided
us audio for at least the past 11 years on KTUL's morning show. Thanks Gary
for the solid walls of sound!!!
January 13 2003 at 19:42:57
Name: Frank Morrow
Comments: Speaking of the Tastee-Freez, the one on 11th near Yale
still exists. I used to get those great shakes there in the '50s, perhaps
even the late '40s.
The strange thing about the place now is that it is closed on weekends, unless
they have changed their schedule recently.
January 13 2003 at 07:16:10
Comments: I especially enjoyed reading about "Mazeppa" and Lee Woodward
is a longtime neighbor of mine.
In 1999, I was walking around the ruins of old MA-HU
and came upon a date inscribed in concrete reading: August 7, 1941. The mansion
goes back to 1937 according to your information. I was with my two young
nieces at the time.
The next week I asked a female friend of mine to join me as she lived close
by, but it turns out that developers had already dug up and removed the remains.
Originally, I thought the inscription read 1944, but it was 1941. A really
surreal twist to this "mystery" for the ages.
January 12 2003 at 14:23:54
Name: Jim Reid
Comments: I was sorry to hear about Lawrence Heatley. He and I worked
a lot of weekends together. He was a good guy.
January 12 2003 at 10:10:31
Name: David Bagsby
Location: Lawrence 'Rock City' KS
Comments: Regarding the Kiss show, although I wasn't there, everyone
at school the next day said that for the last encore, Peter Criss came out
to sing "Beth" to taped orchestra and someone in the crowd lobbed a Jack
Daniels bottle into his drum kit. Outraged, Criss shouted something to the
effect of "F*** you Tulsa! We're never coming back here" and stormed off
the stage. Concert over. It seems like they played in Tulsa again however
without Peter Criss.
January 12 2003 at 02:57:32
Name: Chris Starr
Comments: Was curious to know if any one recalls or has any kind of
memory regarding the KISS concert on 1/6/77 at the Assembly Center in which
drummer Peter Criss was struck by a beer bottle thrown from the
audience....what's the story?
January 11 2003 at 15:04:20
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Charlotte, NC
Comments: Got a note from a reader - she says:
"You were asking the question, where is (former KTUL audioman) Lawrence Heatley?
He is in Crown Hill Cemetary in Tulsa, Ok. He had an accident...in Texas
while cleaning his gun in the 1980's...".
She said brother John Heatley is still in the Tulsa area and doing well.
January 10 2003 at 22:27:28
Name: Larry L. Kraus
Location: Tyler, TX USA
Comments: The Dust Bowl was a folkie place on 15th street, just west
of Peoria. It was open in the 1964-1967 time frame, although those dates
are approximations. The house group was called the Folkmen and consisted
of Robert Anderson (5 string banjo), Moby Anderson (bass) and Pat Grahm (guitar).
Notables who appeared over the years were Mike Murphey (later known as Michael
Martin Murphey, of 'Wildfire' fame), and B.W. Stevenson (of 'My Maria' fame).
Also appearing frequently were Dan Crarey (who still headlines music festivals,
and is/was a fine flat-pick guitar player), and Hermes Nye, a lawyer/singer
from Dallas, and the Roving Singers (Tommy Harris and Jim Smith). (Yours
truly also appeared on occasion, but never as a headliner.)
The Dust Bowl was part of an informal circuit of folk clubs that included
the Sword and the Stone in OKC, the Rubaiyat in Dallas, and the 11th Door
in Austin. Most of the people who played at one of those played at the rest.
I ran into Michael Martin Murphey about three years ago and he still remembered
the Dust Bowl with fondness. B.W. Stevenson, of course, died about 10 years
ago. (I am still alive, barely.)
I can still remember the night that the Folkmen returned from a tour shortly
after Dylan released 'Highway 61 Revisited.' Everyone was aghast that they
were playing electrical instruments. Unfortunately, they were using the
electrical instruments on their standard repertoire and it just didn't work
Shortly after that (I'm guessing maybe 1967), the Dust Bowl closed.
As I might have mentioned previously, the only person I can remember being
thrown off the stage at the Dust Bowl for singing 'inappropriate material'
was Richard Roberts. All of us pushed the boundaries a bit, but Richard
apparently went way over. Of course, he was younger then.
Thanks for jogging another old memory.
January 10 2003 at 17:48:21
Governor-elect Brad Henry's inaugural ball will be
held in the lobby of the Mayo Hotel this evening. The Mayo has undergone
major renovations in recent months. The complete story and photos of the
Mayo lobby today are at www.ktul.com.
January 09 2003 at 22:05:29
Name: Jeff Barkley
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Comments: Your site brings back a lot of great memories. I left Tulsa
in the late 70's. At that time, my favorite hang outs were Cardo's, Boston
Ave. Market, the Nine of Cups and, of course, Arnie's. I heard that Arnie's
was forced out of its old location. Are the other places still around? Anybody
remember anything about a folk music club called The Dust Bowl?
January 09 2003 at 11:16:36
Name: P. Casey Morgan
Comments: Lovely article on page D-5 of today's Tulsa World about
Chandler. Besides being my former stepdaughter and half-sister to my
daughters, Blaire should be remembered as "Blaire Stevens" on KMOD in the
1980s. She is also the daughter of Mariellen Smith,
who has been mentioned in these pages several times.
A short film, "Good Night Valentino", starring Blaire will soon make its
(and possibly later, the Sundance
Channel on cable). It's based on a real-life meeting between silent film
matinee idol Rudolph Valentino and acerbic newsman H.L. Mencken.
January 09 2003 at 08:18:56
Name: Steve Sherwood
Location: Atlanta, GA
Comments: Seeing the photo of Don Woods took me back to 1968, when
I was a mere lad of 17. I worked at a gas station at 41st & Yale, business
was slow, but Don Woods drove in for gas. I didn't recognize him until he
got out of the car. What a celebrity and I was seeing him up close and personal!
My mind was racing, wanting to tell him how much I liked his weather report,
Gusty cartoons, etc., but all I could get out was a short sentence on the
weather. He politely answered with a one-liner. I then said, "you probably
don't want to talk about the weather when you're not working, do you?" He
looked at me, smiled, and said, "you're the first person that has told me
that and I appreciate it."
Thanks, Steve, added your anecdote to the
January 08 2003 at
Name: Joy Cooper
Location: In My Room (the padded one)
Comments: Speaking of the Delman, is my memory correct but didn't
there used to be a Frederick's of raunchy lingerie fame next door? Seems
like I can remember standing there gaping and open-mouthed over such stuff...and
I'm a girl!
That was Massad's, of which Mr. Bagsby spoke. It's still there!
January 07 2003 at 20:20:18
Name: David Bagsby
Location: Lawrence KS
Comments: The Appollo Theatre...saw the Jungle Book there when it
opened. Played there years later when it was the Appollo Delman. They used
to have a talent night in the bar in front. Upstairs enroute to the balcony,
they had a gigantic album sleeve reproduction of the Genesis LP, "Seconds
Out". I know for a while they had a lot of good bands come in...Chuck Berry,
Renaissance, and loads of others. Definitely a high point in Tulsa for a
while; plus the added bonus of Massad's on the corner there too. I wonder
how many car wrecks were caused by their display case.
January 07 2003 at 20:18:04
Name: Emily Webb
Comments: My friend Gary Elliott played the Appollo Theater 24 years
ago or so. If I find a photo, I'll send it your way.
She found it.
Gary played some music there when he was working at KVOO as a DJ.
January 07 2003 at 18:36:13
Name: Alan Fare
Location: Trapped in T-Town TV past
Comments: The most useless and forgotten memories of an era long lost
in a town whose heyday ended with the death of the "restless ribbon" and
The FOX theatre (among others... let's not forget The APPOLLO). Can I...
stay... forever? Best site I've seen in a long time!
Thank you...the old Delman theater was converted to the Appollo Delman
Music Hall in the late 70s. I remember seeing Randy Ess and the Invisible
Band open for Henny Youngman there. I still have a postcard with the logo,
which I added below.
"2001: A Space Odyssey" premiered at the
Fox in 1968.
1966. Courtesy of the Beryl Ford Collection/Rotary Club of Tulsa (added
1950. Courtesy of the Beryl Ford Collection/Rotary Club of Tulsa
Logo on my postcard from the Club Appollo, late 70s.
January 07 2003 at 13:20:40
Name: Ray Wiman
Comments: My son in Seattle was surfing the net and came across your
After graduating from art school in NYC in 1955, I went to work for WSAV-TV
in Savannah, GA as staff artist. Tom Belcher, who was from Enid, was our
sales manager (this was a start-up station). Subsequently Tom left, went
back to Oklahoma, and joined KVOO-TV. I got a call from him late one night.
He said the artist at Channel 2 had committed suicide and would I take the
job (gasp!). I did, joined the station January 1957 and stayed until 1960.
By the way, Bob Harvey, who later was an announcer at Channel 2 was also
on the staff in Savannah.
January 05 2003 at 23:48:41
Comments: About the movie "The Outsiders": at that time, the school
was the Jr High., not the High school.
January 05 2003 at 13:03:41
Comments: For anyone doing a lot of searching on this site:
The undisputed best all-around search engine, Google, has a Toolbar available
for download. Once installed, it becomes an integral part of your Internet
Explorer browser (it is removable, too).
Let's say you are looking for all comments about Leon McAuliffe, for example.
If you put "McAuliffe" in TTM's own good search engine, you will find all
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But most of the Guestbook pages are pretty lengthy, and finding specific
words within them can take awhile.
However, if you type "McAuliffe" in the Google Toolbar and search the
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Now, once you use TTM's search engine to get to a specific Guestbook page,
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The price is right: free...at
January 04 2003 at 08:43:49
Name: David Bagsby
Location: Lawrence KS
Comments: Saw Leon Russell last night in Kansas City...it was fantastic!
Got to see the Tulsa show recently opening for Joe Cocker and despite what
a certain reviewer for the local paper said, he was really cooking on that
one also. Makes me glad to be from Tulsa.
January 03 2003 at 23:49:32
Name: Jim Reid
Comments: It was quite a blast from the past to see that KGCT Channel
41 logo on your home page. I still have my green 41 Live! jacket with that
logo on it.
One good thing about Channel 41 was that it was connected in the back to
the bar/deli next door. Half the time when you couldn't find someone they
were next door enjoying a cocktail.
January 03 2003 at 15:33:23
Location: Owasso, OK
The Tastee-Freez that played
a part in the movie The Outsiders was located on the NorthEast corner of
Main and 86th Street North. Sadly it was torn down years ago. I miss eating
there after school the owners were some really great people. The bleachers
that appear in the film is Ator Field which is still in use for football
(not high school football though). I am sure I have a picture of Tastee-Freez
somewhere. I have a year book that has a couple of pictures of some actors
and the Tastee-Freez owner.
I was able to stand across the street while they were filming that scene.
Other scenes were also filmed in Owasso.
See an old Tastee-Freez at the
January 02 2003 at 21:44:24
Name: Andre Hinds
Location: Berryhill My Berryhill
Comments: Regarding Erick's question, "Speaking of The Outsiders,
I've been getting an itch to see a movie at the Admiral Twin. Anyone know
when they start up this spring?"
The Admiral Twin is run by the same folks who now run the 6-screen theater
at Eastland Mall. I'll bet you can find out by asking the manager there.
If I remember correctly, the Admiral Twin usually opens around Easter weekend.
Tina Ervin-Platt of the
will give us an update when she has a definite date.
January 02 2003 at 15:22:14
Comments: Someone in the last guestbook mentioned needing to know
where there Dairy Queen/Tastee Freez used in The Outsiders was located. As
they mentioned, it was in Owasso, just across the street from Owasso High
School. I don't know the exact location in proximity to the school, but that
Speaking of The Outsiders, I've been getting an itch to see a movie at the
Admiral Twin. Anyone know when they start up this spring?
January 02 2003 at 12:12:01
Name: John Hillis
Location: Fairfax, Va, about 250 miles north of Lizard Lick,
Comments: Congratulations on four years of Tulsa Television Memories.
May the brain dumps just keep comin'.
New slogan for 2003: TTM...All Bran for your brain.
January 01 2003 at 13:50:09
Name: Ray Klinge
Comments: Enjoyed the site very much
January 01 2003 at 13:19:04
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Balmy NC
Comments: Happy New Year and LONG LIVE TTM!
I am working on US coverage of the Paris to Dakar race car/truck/motorbike
marathon that kicked off today. Watch it on the Speed Channel on cable in
Tulsey. This year it goes to Egypt - not Dakar - on a new and neat route!
On a game site on eBay - one of my co-workers noticed a game site seller
in Tulsa - by TU - selling the 2003 Dakar race game. Have any of you ever
heard of Box Builders Inc. at
1716 S. Gary Ave. Tulsa, OK 74104???
December 31 2002 at 18:39:21
Name: David Bagsby
Location: Back in the US
Comments: Congrats to Mike on 4 years of TTM and Happy New Years!
December 30 2002 at 11:54:27
Name: Vicki and Val Smith
Comments: Mazeppa was so funny! I was so glad to see a good copy of
the poster from the Tulsa State Fair. My wife laminated
mine before it could fully crumble. I bought "Scope Them Turkeys Out" at
Greer's on the way to Der Weinerschnitzel and married my wife because she
had an 7-Up Underground card. I caught Gary Busey on drums with Teegarden
and Van Winkle at Magician's while Gailard hooped and hollered from the bar.
They were headlining for Don Preston that night. It was a cool time in
December 30 2002 at 11:51:58
Name: Mike Bruchas
Location: Offerin' no cost - no account cat advice to all....
Comments: Tangent here.
Were you e-mail deluged on micro radio-controlled race cars for sale this
year? They were selling from as low as $8 each to $35 if you bought them
on-line (stupid!). Seems to be the TV MAGIC CARDS of 2002.
My brother and his neighbors bought some at Dillons in Wichita and found
them to be the ideal cat toy. Cats - unless extremely lethargic - go crazy
chasing them on the wood floors. The motor noise drives them wild. They tackle
them and pounce on them - however they found that dogs have a tendency to
EAT them. Problem with dogs is a potential choking on small parts. So if
you have a bored cat at home - pick up a micro race car for his/her amusement!
Boy is this USELESS information....
December 29 2002 at 17:18:42
Name: Frank Morrow
Comments: During one Christmas seasonI believe it was in
1954---there was a short Christmas pageant that was performed on the balcony
of Brown-Dunkin department store on Main Street. Our former Central High
School speech teacher, Isabelle Ronan, directed it, and KTULs Ed Neibling
was the narrator. Compared with the massive and extensive Easter Pageant,
it was a minimal production. It was presented on a small space, with minimum
of music and of fairly short duration. I think we only performed it a couple
of times or so in the evenings.
I played the part of Joseph. Actually, there was no performance involved.
I merely stood beside Mary with my hand on her shoulder. (Miss
Ronan remarked later that this was the first time any of her
Josephs had played the part while touching Mary.)
Bob Griffin, who was still at KAKC, I think, was also in the production.
Additionally, there were three spectacularly beautiful blonde girls from
Central who played parts of the angels. Looking at them, I thought I had
died and gone to heaven already. It also made me think that I had graduated
from CHS a few years too soon.
December 27 2002 at 17:06:35
Location: back there
Comments: Glad to hear via Mike Bruchas that Landecker is still on
the air in Chicago. I remember well his WLS days -- the boogie checks, "Make
a date at the Watergate," etc. And it's all there for you to hear again on
a WLS memories site at
It's a frame site, so when you enter, go to the left frame and click on "WLS
airchecks" and you'll find links to several minutes of Landecker as well
as numerous other WLS voices of the past.
This is an excellent site, with links to many other radio sites.
December 27 2002 at 16:42:26
Comments: Archived Guestbook 120.
Just in case you haven't seen it, here is your
2002 TTM Christmas card. Happy holidays to
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